Donald Trump and his Mexican Wall.
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The cream will always rise to the top eventually big man
As for that crackpot Trump, I reckon he meant Mexican Wave.1 -
Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?3 -
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?0 -
A good question. I couldn't find an answer! But in the course of looking I did find out that around 500,000 guns (presumably legally held) are stolen every year.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?0 -
Bit of a vicious circle in the US as I see it with most criminals carrying illegally held guns (probably millions in circulation), so a lot of law abiding people wanting to arm themselves legally, then add to that the nutters that manage to get hold of guns legally, then going on killing sprees.cafcfan said:
A good question. I couldn't find an answer! But in the course of looking I did find out that around 500,000 guns (presumably legally held) are stolen every year.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?
I wonder if the French were allowed to arm themselves and there were a few carriers about, whether the death and casualty rates from Friday woulda been reduced?1 -
Would you count the Sandy Hook massacre as one using "legally held weapons" or "illegally held weapons"?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?1 -
Probably. But over the next 5 years hundreds of thousands of French citizens would be killed by gun crime. The evidence of the US experience is undeniable.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Bit of a vicious circle in the US as I see it with most criminals carrying illegally held guns (probably millions in circulation), so a lot of law abiding people wanting to arm themselves legally, then add to that the nutters that manage to get hold of guns legally, then going on killing sprees.cafcfan said:
A good question. I couldn't find an answer! But in the course of looking I did find out that around 500,000 guns (presumably legally held) are stolen every year.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?
I wonder if the French were allowed to arm themselves and there were a few carriers about, whether the death and casualty rates from Friday woulda been reduced?1 -
Problem in the States, again as I see it, is that it's in a state lol. There are already silly amounts of firearms in circulation and so it is a bit of a free for all now and to be honest, when it's like that, how can you deny someone the right to protect their family and property?0
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I'd count that as a nutter with a permit or access to guns that shouldn't have had.IA said:
Would you count the Sandy Hook massacre as one using "legally held weapons" or "illegally held weapons"?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?0 -
Is that a new category?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I'd count that as a nutter with a permit or access to guns that shouldn't have had.IA said:
Would you count the Sandy Hook massacre as one using "legally held weapons" or "illegally held weapons"?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?
I thought there were only two.1 - Sponsored links:
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IA said:
Is that a new category?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I'd count that as a nutter with a permit or access to guns that shouldn't have had.IA said:
Would you count the Sandy Hook massacre as one using "legally held weapons" or "illegally held weapons"?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?
I thought there were only two.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Bit of a vicious circle in the US as I see it with most criminals carrying illegally held guns (probably millions in circulation), so a lot of law abiding people wanting to arm themselves legally, then add to that the nutters that manage to get hold of guns legally, then going on killing sprees.cafcfan said:
A good question. I couldn't find an answer! But in the course of looking I did find out that around 500,000 guns (presumably legally held) are stolen every year.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
How many of the 400,000 were killed using legally held weapons and how many were killed using illegally held weapons? Just askingcafcfan said:Trump on Fox News this morning saying terrorists come across the Mexican border and the wall will be built.
Meanwhile, back in the real world, around 3,400 US citizens have died in terrorist attacks since 9/11. Around 3,000 of which were on 9/11 itself. That compares with the 400,000 plus Americans that have been killed by other Americans using firearms in the same timeframe.
Now, Donald, what sort of changes might make the US a safer place?
I wonder if the French were allowed to arm themselves and there were a few carriers about, whether the death and casualty rates from Friday woulda been reduced?0 -
But buying a gun isn't defending your family. Even statistic in the US shows that owning a gun massively increases your chances of death. It may makes many feel safer, but the facts suggest the opposite is actually the case.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Problem in the States, again as I see it, is that it's in a state lol. There are already silly amounts of firearms in circulation and so it is a bit of a free for all now and to be honest, when it's like that, how can you deny someone the right to protect their family and property?
Much like fear of crime is at an all time high here, but crime rates are at their lowest.2 -
OK so they were legally held.
Don't know if the statistics are out there but might have a look if I have nowt else on.0 -
Does make you laugh, you can stereotype and insult millions of people from a certain country but a hint of stereo-typing people of a certain religion and you're jumped on straight away.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.4 -
When my girlfriend and I were terrorised recently, I had to talk them out of the house. Had I gone for any weapon (I had a pair of nunchaku under the bed) I would have got a crowbar in the face. If I had a gun, I would have probably got two shots off before being beaten to death. Might even have accidentally shot myself or my girlfriend, with the adrenaline pumping and my glasses on the floor.i_b_b_o_r_g said:how can you deny someone the right to protect their family and property?
It's a pretty standard argument, the whole "defend the family" thing, but it's also a very, very stupid one.10 -
Maybe if someone owns a gun for the reason of defending their property, then they would have some training to go with it and also, maybe it would be stored in an area that is easy for them (as the permit holder) to access it if there is an intruder. Otherwise there's little point in owning it for that purpose is there.JiMMy 85 said:
When my girlfriend and I were terrorised recently, I had to talk them out of the house. Had I gone for any weapon (I had a pair of nunchaku under the bed) I would have got a crowbar in the face. If I had a gun, I would have probably got two shots off before being beaten to death. Might even have accidentally shot myself or my girlfriend, with the adrenaline pumping and my glasses on the floor.i_b_b_o_r_g said:how can you deny someone the right to protect their family and property?
It's a pretty standard argument, the whole "defend the family" thing, but it's also a very, very stupid one.
I don't really see why the defend the family thing is a very very stupid argument, seems pretty logical to me Jim
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I would lock away all possible weapons if he was coming to my house !0
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It's okay Granps, I'm fully qualified palGranpa said:I would lock away all possible weapons if he was coming to my house !
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Why not have a nut job as President, after all he would be presiding over a nation of nut jobs?0
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Yeah. Bloody Buddhists.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Does make you laugh, you can stereotype and insult millions of people from a certain country but a hint of stereo-typing people of a certain religion and you're jumped on straight away.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.2 - Sponsored links:
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No hope for some, is there?happyvalley said:Why not have a nut job as President, after all he would be presiding over a nation of nut jobs?
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lordromford said:
Yeah. Bloody Buddhists.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Does make you laugh, you can stereotype and insult millions of people from a certain country but a hint of stereo-typing people of a certain religion and you're jumped on straight away.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.
Many in Myanmar would agree.lordromford said:
Yeah. Bloody Buddhists.C_Jensens_Love_Child said:
Does make you laugh, you can stereotype and insult millions of people from a certain country but a hint of stereo-typing people of a certain religion and you're jumped on straight away.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.0 -
Wonder if his Mexican Wall is also Muslims proof...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/donald-trump/12038280/Donald-Trump-calls-for-a-ban-on-all-Muslims-entering-the-US-live.html0 -
Don't laugh. This bloke could become the most powerful man in the world after Roland of course.1
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He also wants to close the internet if Bill Gates (the owner of the internet) agrees.
There's stupid stuff, dangerous stuff, stupid dangerous stuff, and 'arrogant pathetic little shit' stuff. Amazingly, he seems to specialise in all four.6 -
Not a chance. The longer he goes on, the less chance he'll get the nomination. He creates a strange problem for the Republicans. Whilst the media and the frothing-at-the-mouth loons who support him get all the headlines, nobody gives a flying fuck about the actual real candidates (you know, the ones who might actually win an election for them). This means that when he's finally defeated, they're starting from an extremely low point in the public's eyes, with the Democrats having already had a more dignified campaign and having candidates that people will remember.
Irrespective of any of his 'policies', the single fact that he is still there in the race is the biggest problem the Republicans face in winning the election.7 -
ShootersHillGuru say :The voice of reason is often never heard.Leroy Ambrose said:Not a chance. The longer he goes on, the less chance he'll get the nomination. He creates a strange problem for the Republicans. Whilst the media and the frothing-at-the-mouth loons who support him get all the headlines, nobody gives a flying fuck about the actual real candidates (you know, the ones who might actually win an election for them). This means that when he's finally defeated, they're starting from an extremely low point in the public's eyes, with the Democrats having already had a more dignified campaign and having candidates that people will remember.
Irrespective of any of his 'policies', the single fact that he is still there in the race is the biggest problem the Republicans face in winning the election.
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Nutty Christian kills people. Trump calls for more guns.
Nutty Muslim kills people. Trump calls for no Muslims.
The bloke is an absolute freak.9 -
Cool story bro.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.3 -
He's right though. The hypocrisy on here at times is a joke.I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:
Cool story bro.limeygent said:
So many on here toss around insults at America and Americans, any chance they get, usually the same posters. My son was born in the U.S., so he's an American, his mother was an American, my partner of the last 18 years is an American. My sister is married to an American and her daughters and grand-daughters are Americans. My employees are Americans as are most of my clients.ShootersHillGuru said:
What ? Being American ?limeygent said:You'd likely be humourless too, if you had to deal with what they deal with,
So maybe you could think what you are saying before you toss out your crap on here, just to get a rise out of others of similar ilk, and stick to football, something about which you have a vague chance of having a little knowledge.5
