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Olympic Stadium; our day in court

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  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    What a sweet deal. Like staying at Claridges on housing benefit ....
  • Dansk_Red
    Dansk_Red Posts: 5,728
    Plus maintenance cost, who pays for renewal of seats etc every ten years or so.

  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852

    I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?

    Ticket Office? Club Shop? Happy Hammer's Tours?

    P*** taking low lives!
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,348

    Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".

    Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.

    That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.

    But can you write?

    I got my mum to do it.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,602

    Mackle said:

    gavros said:

    You sure you weren't listening to an old episode of Allo Allo Gavros?

    Maybe, it feels like an episode on here sometimes: "good moaning".

    "Oooooooh René!"
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    "You stupid woman!"
    image
    was that taken by KP on a selfie stick trying to get an up skirt shot of KM?
    my first thought was 'ah, that nice Keithy Peacock and a pair of c...s'
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    Mackle said:

    gavros said:

    You sure you weren't listening to an old episode of Allo Allo Gavros?

    Maybe, it feels like an episode on here sometimes: "good moaning".

    "Oooooooh René!"
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    "You stupid woman!"
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    I say, so good to see the senior executives so into the game. And such a cracking outfit from the Katrien as well, what?


  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917

    Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".

    Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.

    That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.

    Jeremy Kyle told us different in the DNA test results!

  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Unless I'm misinterpreting the words WH get a 50% reduction in their usage fee if they allow the stadium to be used for an international or neutral game.

    LLDC pay all the stadium policing costs but if WH are forced to provide extra policing outside the stadium area by the League authorities they get LLDC to cough up 50% of the cost.
  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    what a SCAM! Can something be done to stop this though?
  • Have these reported details come from the LLDC/West Ham btw? Certainly seems like they are still trying to put spin on it with the additional payments/limited days a year use/shared naming rights bollocks.

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  • Coyotejohn1947
    Coyotejohn1947 Posts: 1,163
    Just heard on Talk Sport news that they don't even have to pay for the goalposts!
    or the pitch? can that be true?
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Dansk_Red said:

    Plus maintenance cost, who pays for renewal of seats etc every ten years or so.

    Like renting a house worth £500000, for £132 per month
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,259
    Just read a report on the BBC Sports page. decidedly neutral, considering the numbers we are seeing here. It's a victory that this crass stitch up is out in the open now, but will anyone actually prevent it happening?
  • GermanEastEnder
    GermanEastEnder Posts: 153
    edited April 2016
    Folks, that's what you get if you build an Olympic Stadium without future use in mind and if you don't allow a party/club to buy the bloody thing outright, but only let them become an anchor concessionaire/tenant.
    That's what happens if a club has to rent a stadium instead of owning it.
    The LLDC were in a crap negotiating position and the deal obviously reflects that.
    On the other hand, just like the stadium itself, the deal is a compromise, financial give and take both for the taxpayer and West Ham. Otherwise there would have been no deal and we'd have the white elephant which I'm sure most of you would have prefered.

    As if the often quoted goalposts and cornerflags are serious cost factors. If you want to criticise costs and share of same, then criticise policing costs or stewarding.
    Naming rights are the big money maker for the LLDC as West Ham's share is capped at around 2.5 million a year, everything above that goes to the taxpayer and this could be huge long term.

    Also don't forget that the deal was struck before the new massive TV deal was agreed, and I agree that the numbers don't reflect the value of that TV deal to any Premier League club.

    Will be interesting to see how you follow this up now you have finally succeeded in getting the deal out in the open (Congratulations again to Richard Hunt, this was quite an achievement!).
    Also interesting to find out if any entity (and if so, who) will start legal proceedings in terms of any state aid issues in the upcoming months/years because of this deal.

    Good luck to you in your endeavours to drive out your current owner at Charlton and finding one eventually who will restore some pride and joy at your club. Charlton have always been a decent London club and simply belong among the other London clubs. I hope things improve at your club again in the not too distant future. You deserve better.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    seth plum said:

    I really understand why a West Ham United fan like gavros is keen on this deal when effectively his club has been granted shedloads of free money which will underpin footballing success.
    I don't get why gavros comes on here when he ought to be glorying in West Hams leg up, when he can spend the time joining in with his West Ham mates jabbing the finger and laughing at the rest of us as moaning mugs.
    The mystery is why the deal is a secret, and why so many East Londoners have chained themselves to the Tories in this, and why long standing West Ham fans have allowed these people to wrench them so easily from their lovely historic and atmospheric Boelyn ground.
    Nothing that West Ham achieve from now on will really be worth much, or worth any respect because effectively they will have bought success. They can say critics are moaners and jealous, and they are right. If every football club were given £200million of taxpayers money free, then the jealousy will go away.
    Yet West Ham fans have been critics of the campaign to know the truth. I would have thought the decent approach is for everything to be out in the open so the West Ham fans can laugh more loudly at their good fortune, and jab the finger at the rest of us with more glee.

    This.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    RedChaser said:

    Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".

    Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.

    That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.

    I thought you didn't care that no one likes you or what they think about you :open_mouth: .
    And this.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458



    Whoever negotiated that deal was either wearing a claret and blue scarf, corrupt, or a cretin.
    Personally think our mayor is the last two.
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,435



    Whoever negotiated that deal was either wearing a claret and blue scarf, corrupt, or a cretin.
    Personally think our mayor is the last two.
    Our Prime Minister is all three (in my opinion) although he seems unsure about which team the claret and blue relates to.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    what a SCAM! Can something be done to stop this though?

    Yeah......how about a pitch invasion.........


    SORRY, you were all thinking it too...........
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    what a SCAM! Can something be done to stop this though?

    Yeah......how about a pitch invasion.........


    SORRY, you were all thinking it too...........
    You wouldn't even get close to getting on the pitch. Running track invasion maybe.

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  • C4FC4L1f3
    C4FC4L1f3 Posts: 1,917
    colthe3rd said:

    C4FC4L1f3 said:

    what a SCAM! Can something be done to stop this though?

    Yeah......how about a pitch invasion.........


    SORRY, you were all thinking it too...........
    You wouldn't even get close to getting on the pitch. Running track invasion maybe.
    mobility scooter MOG! could be his new name!
  • HarryLime
    HarryLime Posts: 1,295
    The poor quality of the deal negotiated by the “Legacy Chiefs” on behalf of the taxpayer can only be equalled by the deals negotiated by Dozy Daisy at our helm. The similarities of inept people trying to work a piece of unworkable dogma both here and at the Olympic Stadium is uncanny. I wish Prague could do a freedom of information act job on some of our undisclosed deals.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,056
    IA said:

    Ben18 said:

    Dansk_Red said:

    Plus maintenance cost, who pays for renewal of seats etc every ten years or so.

    Like renting a house worth £500000, for £132 per month
    Yes but I'm only using the house for 25 full days a year. So it's a good deal for the owner.

    Obviously I'll still keep all my stuff in the house, and can prevent anyone else from getting in, and will be in and out of the house temporarily on other days (eg for sleep), and the owner is responsible for repairing damage to anything in the house. But it's a great deal for the owner.
    Lolled...but like as well. Perfect analogy!
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    edited April 2016
    Has our London mayor said anything yet ?

  • What a sweet deal. Like staying at Claridges on housing benefit ....

    Love this comparison, sums it up perfectly.
  • gavros
    gavros Posts: 189
    Afternoon chaps.


    Have I missed anything?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,893
    edited April 2016

    I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?

    So if I offered the LLDC £500 to hire the ground every Friday for corporate events that would be ok with West Ham?

  • What a sweet deal. Like staying at Claridges on housing benefit ....

    Love this comparison, sums it up perfectly.
    And claiming that you'd paid the going rate because you were out for most of the day anyway and not even in the room so why should you have to pay the whole room rate?
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,702

    I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?

    So if I offered the LLDC £500 to hire the ground every Friday for corporate events that would be ok with West Ham?
    West Ham 25 days and UK Athletics have it for a month. So for ~309 days it's free to be rented out yeah.