I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?
Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".
Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.
That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.
Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".
Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.
That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.
Jeremy Kyle told us different in the DNA test results!
Unless I'm misinterpreting the words WH get a 50% reduction in their usage fee if they allow the stadium to be used for an international or neutral game.
LLDC pay all the stadium policing costs but if WH are forced to provide extra policing outside the stadium area by the League authorities they get LLDC to cough up 50% of the cost.
Have these reported details come from the LLDC/West Ham btw? Certainly seems like they are still trying to put spin on it with the additional payments/limited days a year use/shared naming rights bollocks.
Just read a report on the BBC Sports page. decidedly neutral, considering the numbers we are seeing here. It's a victory that this crass stitch up is out in the open now, but will anyone actually prevent it happening?
Folks, that's what you get if you build an Olympic Stadium without future use in mind and if you don't allow a party/club to buy the bloody thing outright, but only let them become an anchor concessionaire/tenant. That's what happens if a club has to rent a stadium instead of owning it. The LLDC were in a crap negotiating position and the deal obviously reflects that. On the other hand, just like the stadium itself, the deal is a compromise, financial give and take both for the taxpayer and West Ham. Otherwise there would have been no deal and we'd have the white elephant which I'm sure most of you would have prefered.
As if the often quoted goalposts and cornerflags are serious cost factors. If you want to criticise costs and share of same, then criticise policing costs or stewarding. Naming rights are the big money maker for the LLDC as West Ham's share is capped at around 2.5 million a year, everything above that goes to the taxpayer and this could be huge long term.
Also don't forget that the deal was struck before the new massive TV deal was agreed, and I agree that the numbers don't reflect the value of that TV deal to any Premier League club.
Will be interesting to see how you follow this up now you have finally succeeded in getting the deal out in the open (Congratulations again to Richard Hunt, this was quite an achievement!). Also interesting to find out if any entity (and if so, who) will start legal proceedings in terms of any state aid issues in the upcoming months/years because of this deal.
Good luck to you in your endeavours to drive out your current owner at Charlton and finding one eventually who will restore some pride and joy at your club. Charlton have always been a decent London club and simply belong among the other London clubs. I hope things improve at your club again in the not too distant future. You deserve better.
I really understand why a West Ham United fan like gavros is keen on this deal when effectively his club has been granted shedloads of free money which will underpin footballing success. I don't get why gavros comes on here when he ought to be glorying in West Hams leg up, when he can spend the time joining in with his West Ham mates jabbing the finger and laughing at the rest of us as moaning mugs. The mystery is why the deal is a secret, and why so many East Londoners have chained themselves to the Tories in this, and why long standing West Ham fans have allowed these people to wrench them so easily from their lovely historic and atmospheric Boelyn ground. Nothing that West Ham achieve from now on will really be worth much, or worth any respect because effectively they will have bought success. They can say critics are moaners and jealous, and they are right. If every football club were given £200million of taxpayers money free, then the jealousy will go away. Yet West Ham fans have been critics of the campaign to know the truth. I would have thought the decent approach is for everything to be out in the open so the West Ham fans can laugh more loudly at their good fortune, and jab the finger at the rest of us with more glee.
Day of turgid legal waffle apart from @PragueAddick providing all the entertainment. Whole court including the po faced LLDC lawyer collapsed in laughter when Richard explained why Millwall was the only London club not part of the coalition challenging the deal - "they couldn't find anyone who could write".
Nothing to report but clear LLDC will appeal again if they lose.
That's Millwallist and as a Millwall fan and the father of Millwall supporting children I find that highly offensive.
I thought you didn't care that no one likes you or what they think about you .
The poor quality of the deal negotiated by the “Legacy Chiefs” on behalf of the taxpayer can only be equalled by the deals negotiated by Dozy Daisy at our helm. The similarities of inept people trying to work a piece of unworkable dogma both here and at the Olympic Stadium is uncanny. I wish Prague could do a freedom of information act job on some of our undisclosed deals.
Plus maintenance cost, who pays for renewal of seats etc every ten years or so.
Like renting a house worth £500000, for £132 per month
Yes but I'm only using the house for 25 full days a year. So it's a good deal for the owner.
Obviously I'll still keep all my stuff in the house, and can prevent anyone else from getting in, and will be in and out of the house temporarily on other days (eg for sleep), and the owner is responsible for repairing damage to anything in the house. But it's a great deal for the owner.
Plus maintenance cost, who pays for renewal of seats etc every ten years or so.
Like renting a house worth £500000, for £132 per month
Yes but I'm only using the house for 25 full days a year. So it's a good deal for the owner.
Obviously I'll still keep all my stuff in the house, and can prevent anyone else from getting in, and will be in and out of the house temporarily on other days (eg for sleep), and the owner is responsible for repairing damage to anything in the house. But it's a great deal for the owner.
I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?
So if I offered the LLDC £500 to hire the ground every Friday for corporate events that would be ok with West Ham?
What a sweet deal. Like staying at Claridges on housing benefit ....
Love this comparison, sums it up perfectly.
And claiming that you'd paid the going rate because you were out for most of the day anyway and not even in the room so why should you have to pay the whole room rate?
I love the fact West Ham claim they're only using the stadium for 25 days a year. Where are their offices going to be during the week? Above the bookies' on Stratford High Street?
So if I offered the LLDC £500 to hire the ground every Friday for corporate events that would be ok with West Ham?
West Ham 25 days and UK Athletics have it for a month. So for ~309 days it's free to be rented out yeah.
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What a sweet deal. Like staying at Claridges on housing benefit ....
P*** taking low lives!
LLDC pay all the stadium policing costs but if WH are forced to provide extra policing outside the stadium area by the League authorities they get LLDC to cough up 50% of the cost.
or the pitch? can that be true?
That's what happens if a club has to rent a stadium instead of owning it.
The LLDC were in a crap negotiating position and the deal obviously reflects that.
On the other hand, just like the stadium itself, the deal is a compromise, financial give and take both for the taxpayer and West Ham. Otherwise there would have been no deal and we'd have the white elephant which I'm sure most of you would have prefered.
As if the often quoted goalposts and cornerflags are serious cost factors. If you want to criticise costs and share of same, then criticise policing costs or stewarding.
Naming rights are the big money maker for the LLDC as West Ham's share is capped at around 2.5 million a year, everything above that goes to the taxpayer and this could be huge long term.
Also don't forget that the deal was struck before the new massive TV deal was agreed, and I agree that the numbers don't reflect the value of that TV deal to any Premier League club.
Will be interesting to see how you follow this up now you have finally succeeded in getting the deal out in the open (Congratulations again to Richard Hunt, this was quite an achievement!).
Also interesting to find out if any entity (and if so, who) will start legal proceedings in terms of any state aid issues in the upcoming months/years because of this deal.
Good luck to you in your endeavours to drive out your current owner at Charlton and finding one eventually who will restore some pride and joy at your club. Charlton have always been a decent London club and simply belong among the other London clubs. I hope things improve at your club again in the not too distant future. You deserve better.
SORRY, you were all thinking it too...........
Obviously I'll still keep all my stuff in the house, and can prevent anyone else from getting in, and will be in and out of the house temporarily on other days (eg for sleep), and the owner is responsible for repairing damage to anything in the house. But it's a great deal for the owner.
Have I missed anything?