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Pronunciation rant
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Caribbean as in CariBBEan & not CaRIBbean1
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Dynasty rather than die-nasty0
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Will you be my friend? My four credits short of a Classics minor is used far too infrequently.AddicksAddict said:
Having looked at this in more detail, at the time Nike was named, the 'η' (now eta, then heta) was used to indicate rough breathing, meaning it probably would be more like Nikhgh than Nik-e, but certainly not just one syllable like Mike.AddicksAddict said:
Really old boys back in ancient Greece pronounced it rhyming with Mikey. Nike (Νίκη) is the Greek goddess of victory so I think they probably new how to say it.Plumstead_Micky said:
Trouble is he only seemed to correct everybody about 25 years later. Old boys like me got used to the old pronunciation! A bit like Kim Bassinger later becoming Kim "Bay-singer".JiMMy 85 said:Sorry to break this to you Micky, but the guy who founded Nike says it's pronounced Nikey, as in, to rhyme with Micky.
For what it's worth I'm in the process of moving to Eugene, OR where Nike was founded. We pronounce it "Nike-ee," but I try to be pretty laissez-faire about pronunciation given that I pronounce things strangely.
That said, "Knockaert" and "Belgiums" have been driving me MENTAL thank you so much for saying what is in my heart @Sillybilly.
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We do, but I'd hate to let facts get in the way of a perfectly pedantic argument (genuinely, see above, I love me some pedantry).Six-a-bag-of-nuts said:
Me too, but I think they even spell it without the I.legaladdick said:Yanks who omit the final letter 'i' when saying Aluminium. Drives me nuts.
Also, @Stig there are a lot of English idioms that would be understood here, but people will not understand you when you pronounce Yoghurt that way. It just does not resonate.
Lastly, FA, that qualifies you to be president of my country and have control over the largest nuclear armament in the world.
To quote Homer Simpson, "It's nucular dummy, the 's' is silent."0 -
Okay so I've found myself answering all the Americanisms. WHERE'S THE "F"?!?!?! Do you same "in 'left' of" or "in 'loo' of" for lieu? It's a word with what I guess are French roots, and in French I believe it would be "oo" not "ef."Addickted said:Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant. It's not difficult America.
And Jagger, it's 'Off my cloud' not 'Off of my cloud'.
@Oakster, that's a North American thing. It's ironic because it seems to be the only "h" some of my English friends pronounce.
https://youtu.be/cs5H7cgcpkg 0 -
Think our yank cousins do that too. Bay-sil instead of Basil too.Oakster said:Not sure if its just a Canadian thing, our friends down south mght be able to confirm but up here they say
Erbs (ie Curbs without the C) instead of Herbs
It pisses me right off.
People who pronounce Trousers as Pants as well.
Compared to the Yanks what the Canadians have done to our wonderful language is pretty mild, but still plenty of stuff that annoys.0 -
Bay-ta instead of bee-ta0
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It's because it is.SDAddick said:
Okay so I've found myself answering all the Americanisms. WHERE'S THE "F"?!?!?! Do you same "in 'left' of" or "in 'loo' of" for lieu? It's a word with what I guess are French roots, and in French I believe it would be "oo" not "ef."Addickted said:Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant. It's not difficult America.
And Jagger, it's 'Off my cloud' not 'Off of my cloud'.
You all manage to pronounce the 'F' in Elephant.
And you don't want to listen to what the French say - it's all made up 'Le' weekend my arse.
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Although, according to Bill Bryson, American English is more how English used to be spoken on these shores. (Remember many colonists were from areas like Suffolk, Essex [a genuine Essex accent is very similar to the Suffolk one], Devon and Cornwall.) It's just that we're continually moving on and they are not. For example, the Essex dialect is now almost dead south of Colchester and replaced by Estuary and Cockney.Exiled_Addick said:
Think our yank cousins do that too. Bay-sil instead of Basil too.Oakster said:Not sure if its just a Canadian thing, our friends down south mght be able to confirm but up here they say
Erbs (ie Curbs without the C) instead of Herbs
It pisses me right off.
People who pronounce Trousers as Pants as well.
Compared to the Yanks what the Canadians have done to our wonderful language is pretty mild, but still plenty of stuff that annoys.
To give you a flavour, listen to these accents from Tangier Island Virginia. It's only a couple of minutes. https://youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9E1 -
One thing I never realised aboot Canada was the whole Newfoundland accent thing! Incredible....
Very well illustrated in this somewhat bizarre video about a shark.... The interviews with the locals gives us that full on Newfie sound
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjW3rSZ6Ovs 1 -
Anyone who starts a sentence with 'Okay so' sic, has no right to comment on anything.SDAddick said:
Okay so I've found myself answering all the Americanisms. WHERE'S THE "F"?!?!?! Do you same "in 'left' of" or "in 'loo' of" for lieu? It's a word with what I guess are French roots, and in French I believe it would be "oo" not "ef."Addickted said:Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant. It's not difficult America.
And Jagger, it's 'Off my cloud' not 'Off of my cloud'.
@Oakster, that's a North American thing. It's ironic because it seems to be the only "h" some of my English friends pronounce.https://youtu.be/cs5H7cgcpkg
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Bryson's version is correct, I believe. But when have we let inconvenient facts get in the way of a hugely entertaining CL rant?cafcfan said:
Although, according to Bill Bryson, American English is more how English used to be spoken on these shores. (Remember many colonists were from areas like Suffolk, Essex [a genuine Essex accent is very similar to the Suffolk one], Devon and Cornwall.) It's just that we're continually moving on and they are not. For example, the Essex dialect is now almost dead south of Colchester and replaced by Estuary and Cockney.Exiled_Addick said:
Think our yank cousins do that too. Bay-sil instead of Basil too.Oakster said:Not sure if its just a Canadian thing, our friends down south mght be able to confirm but up here they say
Erbs (ie Curbs without the C) instead of Herbs
It pisses me right off.
People who pronounce Trousers as Pants as well.
Compared to the Yanks what the Canadians have done to our wonderful language is pretty mild, but still plenty of stuff that annoys.
To give you a flavour, listen to these accents from Tangier Island Virginia. It's only a couple of minutes. https://youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9E1 -
Too true. Frankly seeing Izzard while trying to eat my Marmite on toast, has meant I've lost all perspective.AshBurton said:
Bryson's version is correct, I believe. But when have we let inconvenient facts get in the way of a hugely entertaining CL rant?cafcfan said:
Although, according to Bill Bryson, American English is more how English used to be spoken on these shores. (Remember many colonists were from areas like Suffolk, Essex [a genuine Essex accent is very similar to the Suffolk one], Devon and Cornwall.) It's just that we're continually moving on and they are not. For example, the Essex dialect is now almost dead south of Colchester and replaced by Estuary and Cockney.Exiled_Addick said:
Think our yank cousins do that too. Bay-sil instead of Basil too.Oakster said:Not sure if its just a Canadian thing, our friends down south mght be able to confirm but up here they say
Erbs (ie Curbs without the C) instead of Herbs
It pisses me right off.
People who pronounce Trousers as Pants as well.
Compared to the Yanks what the Canadians have done to our wonderful language is pretty mild, but still plenty of stuff that annoys.
To give you a flavour, listen to these accents from Tangier Island Virginia. It's only a couple of minutes. https://youtube.com/watch?v=AIZgw09CG9E0 -
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have we got onto botswain and other nautical terms yet ?0 -
some think something is pronounced somethink2
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Because thems the rules. As I said earlier, there's no F in Elephant.Dazzler21 said:
I think the Yanks have that one right to be fair. Who spells Leftenant as Lieutenant ensuring there is no F?Addickted said:Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant. It's not difficult America.
Nope, it's got to be Loo-tenant then.
It's pronounced Leftenant amongst our armed forces.
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No but there's a "Ph" which is pronounced as an "f" like in phonetic or Philadelphia or pedoPHile or phuck offAddickted said:
Because thems the rules. As I said earlier, there's no F in Elephant.Dazzler21 said:
I think the Yanks have that one right to be fair. Who spells Leftenant as Lieutenant ensuring there is no F?Addickted said:Lieutenant is pronounced Leftenant. It's not difficult America.
Nope, it's got to be Loo-tenant then.
It's pronounced Leftenant amongst our armed forces.
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Magdalene being pronounced maudlin. Cholmondeley as chumley.
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These both wind me up every day!LawrieAbrahams said:Magdalene being pronounced maudlin. Cholmondeley as chumley.
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WOO-LIDGE. Double-dim.cherryorchard said:Can't think why none of you have asked Mandy Anderson-Myers opinion on matters of pronunciation. She has a way with words and must have plenty of time on her hands at the moment, so would probably welcome enquiries.
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Worked with a Nefie on site once for a couple of days. He had such a strong Somerset accent I assumed he was from Bristol or something. Turned out he was 5th generation Canadian or something but Great Great Great Great (or whatever) Grandad was from Somerset.Oakster said:One thing I never realised aboot Canada was the whole Newfoundland accent thing! Incredible....
Very well illustrated in this somewhat bizarre video about a shark.... The interviews with the locals gives us that full on Newfie soundhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OjW3rSZ6Ovs
Most of those folks in your video sound Irish. It's like they all just keep their individual family accents, or at least the ones out in the sticks do.. You run into quite a lot of them around here that have moved to work in the oil patch... they do have something of a tendancy towards being a bit odd. Being British I think I probably helps me to understand them better than a lot of Canadians do.0 -
I think having a wide variety of accents and dialects in this world is a wonderful thing.
I also love Malapropisms.4 -
Nik e
A didas
Darvid Shinola
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Trottiscliffe anyone?0
