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Dallas police shootings
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Is it any of your business why, just as is it any of my business why you would carry around a cricket bat? You could be getting it repaired, showing it to a mate or taking it to a cricket club to use. Whatever reason.BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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Haha oh my dear..kentaddick said:
Is it any of your business why, just as is it any of my business why you would carry around a cricket bat? You could be getting it repaired, showing it to a mate or taking it to a cricket club to use. Whatever reason.BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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On that basis, why buy a gun, or be allowed by law to buy a gun if it is never intended to be used?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
This is the US of A we're talking about - the guy in the car had the constitutional right to bare arms.4 -
Eh - so because the police have done their job some of the time we can ignore a couple of summary executions here or there ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Well because if law enforcement in the US is so inherently racist, as quite a few people on both sides of the pond keep saying, surely this would be the case in them not wishing to save lives as well as cold bloodedly shooting non white folk on sightse9addick said:
Why is it relevant ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:How many black lives are saved by the police in the US every year?
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But black lives clearly don't matter to all coppers in the states, that's entirely the point.Dazzler21 said:
Why isn't it relevant? It supports the fact that Black lives do in fact matter. ALL lives matter is what they should be championing.se9addick said:
Why is it relevant ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:How many black lives are saved by the police in the US every year?
Regarding taser use on baggy clothes
“The most effective place for a TASER probe to hit is one probe above the belt and one below the belt with a spread of a foot or more,” Tracy said. Baggy clothing can get in the way of probes making contact with the skin. Denim can stop the probes getting through all together. The probe can also come loose of the wire/skin and the probes can be shot too close together.
All of these scenarios would leave the intended target unaffected.
“A lot of times the top dart misses or the bottom dart misses,” Paxton said. "The top probe has a laser sight on it and is fired directly, while the second probe is fired at an angle. Firing it from a distance usually means a better spread of the probes, but the probability of missing is greatly increased by distance.”
It also is difficult to hit a moving target. If the probes are not shot directly into the subject, the TASER takes time and can be difficult to reload.
“The TASER X-26 (U.S standard Police issue) is limited to one deployment at a time,” Tracy said. "While the cartridge can be dropped and reloaded, reloading is difficult under stress.”2 -
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So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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For self protection, ironically, is the answer.BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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I'm not disputing American gun laws are daft mate, if they made it legal in Britain tomorrow I certainly wouldn't carry one.bobmunro said:
On that basis, why buy a gun, or be allowed by law to buy a gun if it is never intended to be used?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
This is the US of A we're talking about - the guy in the car had the constitutional right to bare arms.1 -
Well let's agree then to thank our lucky stars that no government in the UK would ever do such a thing.BR7_addick said:
I'm not disputing American gun laws are daft mate, if they made it legal in Britain tomorrow I certainly wouldn't carry one.bobmunro said:
On that basis, why buy a gun, or be allowed by law to buy a gun if it is never intended to be used?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
This is the US of A we're talking about - the guy in the car had the constitutional right to bare arms.2 -
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Did you come up with that one yourself ?BR7_addick said:NEWSFLASH
Business is booming at the gun repair shops as youths everywhere head to streets to get them fixed.1 -
He stated (according to the video) that he was licensed to carry a fire arm and that he was reaching for his wallet.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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This feels like a spurious argument...but since you're asking. You can work out how many lives saved by subtracting the murders etc. from the population. At which point you will arrive at a conclusion that the police save more white lives than black (both in absolute terms and as a % of the population.). The police are, in effect, failing to prevent a lot of murders of black people (mostly perpretated by other black people). - though of course a lot of those are very difficult to prevent in the current climate.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Well because if law enforcement in the US is so inherently racist, as quite a few people on both sides of the pond keep saying, surely this would be the case in them not wishing to save lives as well as cold bloodedly shooting non white folk on sightse9addick said:
Why is it relevant ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:How many black lives are saved by the police in the US every year?
Lost in all this discussion is the viewpoint that the Dallas police dept has actually made real efforts to clean up its act and be less discriminatory. Complaints have fallen significantly in recent years. So I'm not clear why the demo was in this city specifically, or what the particular agenda of the attackers was... All round, what a tragic mess....2 -
I just remember JFK's assassination (certainly remember where I was and what I was doing when I first heard) but clearly remember Bobby - and I recall it hitting me with great sadness.SDAddick said:
Agreed, and somewhat ironically, it was Jack's death in Dallas that really changed Bobby. Bobby was known for being a little shit (not necessarily one who was wrong) when he was Attorney General. His brother dying really softened him. He was a man who, by 1968, was genuinely committed to racial and socio-economic healing within the United States. He was shaking the hand of a Hispanic cook who'd stopped him in the kitchen after a speech when he was shot dead.bobmunro said:
Agreed. For me it was Bobby's death that ended the hope.redlanered said:
IMO had MLK and Robert Kennedy not gone the same way then things would have progressed, however shocking JFK's assassination was. At that point it seemed that anyone trying to do the right thing was a target.soapboxsam said:53 years ago in Dallas, the best hope for Black America to make some progress disappeared with the Shooting of JFK. How ironic that the Grandchildren of black Americans from the 60's still feel the same way despite having a Black President.
The gun culture is out of control. If everyone is (potentially) armed, then not surprisingly the police will overreact at the merest twitch from someone in a tense situation, and we know they are more likely to overreact more to people with particular profiles. Prison & arrest are not deterrents, which is why the jail population is ridiculously high.
One of those single moments in history that change everything.1 -
Comical answers get comical responses my friend.se9addick said:
Did you come up with that one yourself ?BR7_addick said:NEWSFLASH
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He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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You know that ain't what I'm saying ffsse9addick said:
Eh - so because the police have done their job some of the time we can ignore a couple of summary executions here or there ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Well because if law enforcement in the US is so inherently racist, as quite a few people on both sides of the pond keep saying, surely this would be the case in them not wishing to save lives as well as cold bloodedly shooting non white folk on sightse9addick said:
Why is it relevant ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:How many black lives are saved by the police in the US every year?
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What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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Comical answers get comical responses my friend.se9addick said:
Did you come up with that one yourself ?BR7_addick said:NEWSFLASH
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You're the one who was comparing cricket bats and guns.
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Whether it's legal or not?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
It was legal that's all that matters, he advised the officer that he was licensed to carry and was then shot after advising he was reaching for his wallet.
The officer was definitely in the wrong here.
The victim done all that he had to legally to make the officer aware that there was either a gun in the car or on his person and the officer shot before thinking because he was terrified that it could have been the gun the man reached for.
If he had reached without giving the warning that he legally had to give, would the officer have fired shots?
Would the officer have been more or less at risk of fatal error?
Did the law actually cause this man's death more than protect his life as it should have?
(If he had been illegally carrying a firearm then I can understand his being shot, but he was licensed and declared so, the officer should have told him what actions to take after declaring the firearm was on him...)
WE KNOW THE USA SHOULD IMPOSE A SIMILAR LAW TO THE UK ON FIREARMS BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN
hardly the time for jokes either.BR7_addick said:NEWSFLASH
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These three videos sum if up to me. (I know that 2 of them are Fox News, but that's pretty irrelevant imoi_b_b_o_r_g said:
They may or may not be facts, if they are facts, they dont really explain the reason behind all of these deaths. Dont get me wrong, at the moment, these latest two shootings look to me as though the police are in the wrong. I've spent some time researching this over the last few months and have come across some interesting videos on YouTube on the subject...bobmunro said:
Henry, don't spoil his argument with facts.Henry Irving said:
but black people make up only 12.4% of the US populationleftbehind said:
So the majority are not black thennth london addick said:Of which 136 are African American mate
#whitelivesmatter
Could anyone on here honestly say that they would pass this 'test'
https://youtu.be/dwQEKcKjASw
Another point of view to the one we keep getting fed
https://youtu.be/WBTaR7sA4X4
..and another
https://youtu.be/sSln6rqcGRs
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I honestly don't.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
You know that ain't what I'm saying ffsse9addick said:
Eh - so because the police have done their job some of the time we can ignore a couple of summary executions here or there ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Well because if law enforcement in the US is so inherently racist, as quite a few people on both sides of the pond keep saying, surely this would be the case in them not wishing to save lives as well as cold bloodedly shooting non white folk on sightse9addick said:
Why is it relevant ?i_b_b_o_r_g said:How many black lives are saved by the police in the US every year?
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WTF? Why are you arguing over a situation you haven't got a clue about?BR7_addick said:
What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
It was a routine car stop, he had a CCL so was legitimately allowed to conceal a firearm on his person. Upon being requested for his driving license, he alerted the officer that he had a firearm on his person - the officer seemed to misread the situation and subsequently shot him 4 times.
The debate lies about how he informed the officer that he had a weapon on his person (i.e "I've got a gun." vs "I've got a CCL, and I'm carrying at the moment.") and whether it genuinely looked as though he was going to draw his weapon, and not his license. Video evidence is only available in the immediate aftermath of the shooting, although I believe the officer may have been wearing a bodycam - so ultimately the full details should come out.2 -
Have.. Have you even watched the video or are you just on here to troll on a thread about some one who has been killed? You are a piece of work.BR7_addick said:
What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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I have a feeling we're talking about different incidents.BR7_addick said:
What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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Just helping you understand by putting it an English scenario but was obviously too much for you.kentaddick said:
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Comical answers get comical responses my friend.se9addick said:
Did you come up with that one yourself ?BR7_addick said:NEWSFLASH
Business is booming at the gun repair shops as youths everywhere head to streets to get them fixed.
You're the one who was comparing cricket bats and guns.
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No resisting occurred. Only attempted compliance with the law.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
If stopped by a police officer you should declare any firearms and appropriate licences you have.
You must provide when asked, your ID, Insurance and Licensing information when requested by a police officer.
He pulled over as requested, declared his firearm and licence to carry, he reached for his ID as asked and was murdered for it.
Tell me where he resisted or broke any law that meant he should be killed please?5 -
He was told by the officer to get his identification. He went for the glove box saying that he had a concealed carry license and there was a gun in there; but he was reaching for his wallet (which had his license in).BR7_addick said:
What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
The police officer then shot him 4 times.3 -
The conversation began about Philando Castile though?colthe3rd said:
I have a feeling we're talking about different incidents.BR7_addick said:
What were they doing before he was shot then cuddling?colthe3rd said:
He didn't resist arrest.BR7_addick said:
If I resisted arrest and went for my cricket bat I would expect the full physical force of the law. Fortunately I'm not dumb enough to carry a weapon everywhere I go nor would I resist arrest/search etc if I had nothing to hide.colthe3rd said:
So, using your analogy, it would be ok for an officer to, let's say tazer you if we are saying this country, just because you are carrying a cricket bat? You don't think there would be any sort of uproar? I mean yes, if you were holding it in an aggressive manner or were charging at an officer, completely understandable. But what if you had it in your bag, told the officer it was in your bag and he tazered you. That would be fine would it?BR7_addick said:
Doesn't answer my question, WHY? Why carry a gun whether it's legal or not unless you were going to use it? I don't carry a cricket bat everywhere I go just because I'm entitled to!colthe3rd said:
He was legally allowed to carry that weapon. That also doesn't mean he was going to use it on the police officer.BR7_addick said:
No excuses?? The guy had a gun on him! Why is he carrying a gun if he wouldn't use it?Jayajosh said:
The police gun was already in the black guy's face before he reached for his licence so he would have been zapped with thousands of volts even if had gone for a weapon. I cannot see any excuse made in this particular instance.LuckyReds said:
In a country where gun ownership is incredibly common I wouldn't want to pull a taser on someone with a firearm.Jayajosh said:Why is it necessary for the Police to pull a gun all the time, what's wrong with using a taser?
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