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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,980
    £££££
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    Get Vince and Ballance up the order to give them every chance of making some runs.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,653
    edited July 2016
    Cook's going to bat on until the 5th day lunch. Vince and Ballance will get their chance.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,883
    How does the sky predictor thing work? It predicted that England would bowl them out twice for 220 odd. It obviously didn't predict the follow on
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Cook is going to be in deep trouble if rain saves Pakistan - however, there is no rain forecast for Manchester for next 3 days.Might only need 2 sessions tbh the way Pak played in first innings.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    edited July 2016
    andrew flintoff ✔ @flintoff11

    No follow on is hardly science @SkyCricket @jimmy9 has come back from injury,bowlers get more rest and pitch gets worse but keep banging on

  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Sloppy from Hales to get out so late in the day.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Great comment on the cric info commentary:

    "Cook' decision has annoyed Piers Morgan immensely, so that probably means it was the right choice. "
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,335
    harveys gardener said:

    WTF? Is Cook on commission for ticket sales? He should be sacked as captain for not enforcing follow-on. Doesn't he know there is a tendency in Manchester for wet stuff to drop out of the sky?

    Would you stick to the suggestion that we sack one of our most successful recent captains and highest run-scorer ever, even if we win?

    To me, there are sound reasons for not enforcing the follow-on. 1. Giving the recently injured Jimmy Anderson more chance to recover between innings. 2. Giving the recently injured Ben Stokes more chance to recover between innings. 3. Avoiding batting fourth in the match. 4. Ensuring we bowl when the pitch is in the best condition for bowling. 5. Using match conditions to ensure batsmen are in the best possible form for the remaining matches. 6. Giving out-of-form batsmen (Hales, Vince, Ballance) another chance to cement their places. 7 And doing all this while still giving England two new balls (if needed) to take ten wickets.

    Would you really sack him for this decision?
  • superchrissypowell
    superchrissypowell Posts: 693
    The decision not to follow on is fine. We are likely to declare an hour before lunch with a lead in excess of 500. We will then have pretty much 2 days play to get 10 wickets.

    Sometimes you have to accept that the bigger picture (i.e the return of 2 of our bowlers from injury). There is no point in burning them out and risking further injury if we can safely give them a days rest.
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  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    It doesn't matter how you win. If we win all will be forgiven, if we draw Cook will be hung out to dry. Personally I would have put them in to bat. But Cook seldom does this.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    edited July 2016
    I would have put them back in, but I agree with the counter logic.

    There are a chance of a few showers over the two days, but I wouldn't take a chance & would definitely not bat after lunch today.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,653
    Covered End said:

    I would have put them back in, but I agree with the counter logic.

    There are a chance of a few showers over the two days, but I wouldn't take a chance & would definitely not bat after lunch today.

    You're just being reckless. I wouldn't want to defend anything less than 700 on this wicket. We need to bat on until tea at least.
  • Norman_Smith
    Norman_Smith Posts: 338
    Will cook declare when he gets his 100?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2016
    Its the modern way, not to enforce the follow-on. However, there WILL come a time, when rain will save the team batting 4th after not enforcing a follow on- lets hope its England eh? Coz if its Oz and its 1-1 in an Ashes series , then I would want that captain hung-drawn and quartered.
    I also don't get this 'giving the bowlers a rest' bit - especially when Pakistan didn't even get to 200 , we only bowled 60odd overs, and Jimmy,Broad etc only bowled just over 10 overs each in first innings. If it had been us bowling first instead of batting then its quite a possibility that we could have been bowling for circa 120 overs anyway.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    edited July 2016
    Engalnd declare at 173-1

    Pakistan need 565 to win and if they do that I'll get a tattoo of Alastair Cook on my arse.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Apparently , Joe just switch hit the bowler for 4 - be only the second player ever (that I can recall) to have ever done that in a Test match - in actual fact, did KP ever do it in a Test ?
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Rooooot magnificent!
    Cooooook fantastic!

    Pressmen and former players sniping on the fringes -booooooore off
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    A-R-T-H-U-R said:

    Rooooot magnificent!
    Cooooook fantastic!

    Pressmen and former players sniping on the fringes -booooooore off

    about what?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    The_President said:

    Apparently , Joe just switch hit the bowler for 4 - be only the second player ever (that I can recall) to have ever done that in a Test match - in actual fact, did KP ever do it in a Test ?

    Root did it quite a bit, in the 1st innings as well. I reckon KP did, but couldn't be 100% sure.
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2016
    Covered End said:

    The_President said:

    Apparently , Joe just switch hit the bowler for 4 - be only the second player ever (that I can recall) to have ever done that in a Test match - in actual fact, did KP ever do it in a Test ?

    Root did it quite a bit, in the 1st innings as well. I reckon KP did, but couldn't be 100% sure.
    I saw him do several reverse sweeps in first innings, but don't recall a switch hit (where he changes hand position and bats like a left-hander)?
    What a talent he is.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Masood c Root b Anderson 1

    7-1
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,735
    Masood really is Jimmy's bunny.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    The_President said:

    Covered End said:

    The_President said:

    Apparently , Joe just switch hit the bowler for 4 - be only the second player ever (that I can recall) to have ever done that in a Test match - in actual fact, did KP ever do it in a Test ?

    Root did it quite a bit, in the 1st innings as well. I reckon KP did, but couldn't be 100% sure.
    I saw him do several reverse sweeps in first innings, but don't recall a switch hit (where he changes hand position and bats like a left-hander)?
    What a talent he is.
    I'm probably thinking of the reverse sweep.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Yep, KP did use a Switch Hit during a Test - but doesn't mention anyone else in this link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch_hit
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    Azhar lbw Anderson 8

    25-2
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Always rely on Jimmy - what will we do when he decides to retire.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2016
    The_President said:

    Always rely on Jimmy - what will we do when he decides to retire.

    Actually, after seeing Sam Curran bowl recently, reckon we may well have a ready made (left arm) replacement (who is a better batter too).
    This reminds me of my comment the other day where we could have a bowling attack in a couple of years of Curran,Stokes,Woakes,Ali and Broad - I wonder who would bat 11? (I bet DickPlumb will say Ballance)
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Covered End said:

    Engalnd declare at 173-1

    Pakistan need 565 to win and if they do that I'll get a tattoo of Alastair Cook on my arse.

    Get that tattoo booked in :smiley:
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006
    47-2 at lunch. Stokes dropped a dolly.

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