Ahmed Kashi Injury (p3 - 12/7 out for another 4 months)
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Has he had surgery before on the injury? Seems an identical situation to Igors achilles injury0
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so, the ball went into the box 23 times but we only got onto the end of 2 of them. Shows me that :
1) we need to improve our crossing
2) need more bodies in the box when crosses come in
3) one up with JJ (slowest midfielder in history) in the hole ISNT the answer.
ignoring tonite, we have 10 days to practice this in training & RS should be aiming for at least a 50% success rate.0 -
Bring your boots tonight ElfsElfsborgAddick said:
Agreed.ricky_otto said:Never going to play for Charlton again. Might as well pay up his contract
More chance of me playing for Charlton than the fella.
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Best only have a shandy in the boozer then.addick1965 said:
Bring your boots tonight ElfsElfsborgAddick said:
Agreed.ricky_otto said:Never going to play for Charlton again. Might as well pay up his contract
More chance of me playing for Charlton than the fella.0 -
Agreed but being better than Crofts isn't enough. Also, I seem to remember Kashi adopting a deeper role, combative etc. Yes we need that, but we're crying out for a bit guile and creativity even more so.Dazzler21 said:
He's a lot better than Croftscabbles said:
I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfieldOh_Yoni_Boy said:He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.
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Unbelievable really.
I know players get injured and its part of the game, but we are a shambles when it comes to getting these things sorted out.0 -
On a lighter note, I watched his TV programme the other day. Kash in the Addicks.14
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That was dreadful ...... but I gave you a lol anyway!Couch_Potato said:On a lighter note, I watched his TV programme the other day. Kash in the Addicks.
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I genuinely opened this thread expecting to see a post saying he was a surprise inclusion in tonight's squad, should have known better. Good luck to him. Must be +18 months out by the time he will have any chance of being back.2
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Can't be bothered to go back through this post, but if I did I would find I predicted this!0
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So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."queensland_addick said:Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.
Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.
This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.
For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.
This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).0 -
No SD, I didn't mean in house. I know from experience that professional clubs tend to send their players to their preferred surgeon for specific injuries. I, for many years, worked with a guy named John Ireland who was renowned for knee arthroscopies, and we operated on players from Arsenal, Palace and Orient. There are numerous such specialists in Harley Street who are world renowned in their areas of expertise. The term "debris" is more applicable to floating tissue as found in the knee synovial fluid from cartilage degeneration or injury. Achilles tendon repair is actually a relatively simple procedure of reapproximating the tendon fibres back together with strong suture. The most difficult part is the Anaesthetic because the patient has to be face down on the operating table and ventilated.SDAddick said:
So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."queensland_addick said:Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.
Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.
This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.
For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.
This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).
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Why has he only just had an op? He broke down with it again in the summer didn't he?0
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I believe from others on here, it's because an operation can lead to scar tissue, which can cause a problem.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Why has he only just had an op? He broke down with it again in the summer didn't he?
So they prefer for the injury to heal naturally if it will.2 -
We'll never see him in a Charlton shirt again. Of that I'm sure.0
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::Doffs Cap::queensland_addick said:
No SD, I didn't mean in house. I know from experience that professional clubs tend to send their players to their preferred surgeon for specific injuries. I, for many years, worked with a guy named John Ireland who was renowned for knee arthroscopies, and we operated on players from Arsenal, Palace and Orient. There are numerous such specialists in Harley Street who are world renowned in their areas of expertise. The term "debris" is more applicable to floating tissue as found in the knee synovial fluid from cartilage degeneration or injury. Achilles tendon repair is actually a relatively simple procedure of reapproximating the tendon fibres back together with strong suture. The most difficult part is the Anaesthetic because the patient has to be face down on the operating table and ventilated.SDAddick said:
So to be fair, I highly doubt we have an orthopedic surgeon on staff. I don't know of any club or sporting team that could perform this procedure "in house."queensland_addick said:Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.
Also, when Slade talks about "debris," he almost certainly means scar tissue.
This is the risk of operating on the Achilles Tendon. It is almost certainly why we waited two months last year for his injury to heal on its own. When you operate on the Achilles, there is a risk that, because it's so tightly wound, you could tear it. Or, more commonly, you can fix the tear that exists, but the result is a large build up of scar tissue during healing. My guess is that the latter is what has happened here.
For as many things as we can criticize our previous medical staff for, I think they did what most doctors would have done, and what has happened with me in the past--wait for it to heal on its own. Kashi is dealing with the side effect of surgery now.
This, of course, does not explain why this didn't happen/wasn't diagnosed in the off season or why it's been left so late this season (which concerns me given we had an overhaul of our medical team this year).
Also, floating tissue is usually scar tissue I believe, but I think we're splitting hairs there.1 -
Bit late to the party on this........ but Aspetar is a FIFA accredited medical hospital with heaps of top surgeons, just signed a deal to become Spurs' medical partner too.Dazzler21 said:
Qatar has one of the world's leading sports injury surgeons - google ASPETAR for details.queensland_addick said:Why does he need to go to Qatar for surgery? Is this yet another case of one of our players having lost all faith in our medical treatment !
It doesn't add up, he had surgery here then played a couple of games before breaking down again. Yet somehow, despite doing next to nothing on the pitch he has accumulated "lots of debris in there" according to Slade. First Vetokele, now Kashi. It seems that joining Charlton can be very dangerous for your career.4 -
Well sir, you certainly called it.cabbles said:
I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfieldOh_Yoni_Boy said:He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.
I don't think he's been bad, but certainly needs a decent option beside him.
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He is what Cantona would call the "water carrier" of the team in that he should be getting the ball and passing it to the more talented players in the side. The difficulty comes when he is too far from those players to be able to find them - and this also assumes that we have more talented players to pass to. Which isn't always the case.Dazzler21 said:
Well sir, you certainly called it.cabbles said:
I have a feeling he'll come back and not have the impact we all think he will. This will be a combination of his injury, and not being as good as we think he is. Certainly not the saviour of a central midfieldOh_Yoni_Boy said:He would make a huge difference in our horrendous midfield if fit, shame he's totally crocked.
I don't think he's been bad, but certainly needs a decent option beside him.1
