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FA summons Meire (not really)

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,486

    as someone else alluded to there have been ongoing investigations into protests since last season so maybe this meeting is the culmination of that investigation and nothing else?

    Possibly, but the article seems to indicate that this is the result of "grave concerns" of the running of Charlton. Now, could that be a part of a larger investigation into protests? Quite possible.

    But, if this is just a stand-alone, as far as I can tell, and as Prague says, this is unprecedented.
  • CAFC Luke said:

    Do they actually have any authority though? Fair enough Summoning her, but if they actually wanted to do something, what could they possibly do?

    Exactly... they cant take Charlton Athletic away from these owners because who'd pay the wages for Players / Staff (down to those who man the ticket office) at the club.

    I guess the only thing they could do is enforce Administration upon us that doesnt see us get a 10-point deduction which'll hopefully allows a new party to come in and takeover the club
    On what grounds could they do that? They couldn't do anything like that, we haven't broken any rules.
    Clutching at straws here, but what about the alleged issues around the Tony Watt transfer?

    Not enough for administration, but it would be good if some light was shone upon Roland's dealings
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,921

    At least we know where she'll be tomorrow if anyone local wanted to go along and protest...

    Is it Wembley or St Georges (that's the FA HQ) - if the latter then I'll pop along and see if I can get any inside info.
  • olster said:

    Interesting point @Algarveaddick about not trying to win games, but the club could (rightly) argue that not being able to reschedule the Swindon game meant we weren't in a position to win.

    Could they argue that KM & Co are bringing the game into disrepute? It would also be great to have some sort of CAST representation to brief the FA prior.

    But as far as I know, Olster, CAFC could have turned down the televising of the game, knowing it clashed with international fixtures and we were likely to have a weakened team? It actually goes back to them knowing we would be lacking key players and not caring whether we won or not? There is no financial gain for the away team, so "needing the money" can't be used as an excuse.
    Charlton agreed the Swindon game on Sky before Magennis and Botaka were signed and once agreed that's it, so just unfortunate.
    Ah right. Thanks for putting me straight, CE.

    That said, I don't see why, when they can switch games for TV purposes at three or four weeks notice, we could not have withdrawn with two months and 12 days notice? But that's by the by.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,087
    bobmunro said:

    At least we know where she'll be tomorrow if anyone local wanted to go along and protest...

    Is it Wembley or St Georges (that's the FA HQ) - if the latter then I'll pop along and see if I can get any inside info.
    Thought the HQ was Wembley now?
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,827
    be at Wembley
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    Wembley is now the FA HQ
  • CAFC Luke said:

    Do they actually have any authority though? Fair enough Summoning her, but if they actually wanted to do something, what could they possibly do?

    Exactly... they cant take Charlton Athletic away from these owners because who'd pay the wages for Players / Staff (down to those who man the ticket office) at the club.

    I guess the only thing they could do is enforce Administration upon us that doesnt see us get a 10-point deduction which'll hopefully allows a new party to come in and takeover the club
    On what grounds could they do that? They couldn't do anything like that, we haven't broken any rules.
    Clutching at straws here, but what about the alleged issues around the Tony Watt transfer?

    Not enough for administration, but it would be good if some light was shone upon Roland's dealings
    Not to mention Duchatelet's third-party ownership of Michy Batshuayi
  • As others have said this is certainly a step in the right direction and it means that someone somewhere is obviously taking notice. But what realistically can the FA do? Can they force him to sell up? I doubt it.

    She'll spout the usual rubbish (CARD can wheel out the Katrien bingo again) about investing 38m, the training ground, a new pitch, no interested buyers etc etc and the FA will say 'ok then thanks for coming'.

    Interesting that they've summoned her though. Why have they never summoned Oyston or the Coventry owners? Is it simply because our protests are far better and gaining more publicity?
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    Protest group at wembley

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  • olster said:

    Interesting point @Algarveaddick about not trying to win games, but the club could (rightly) argue that not being able to reschedule the Swindon game meant we weren't in a position to win.

    Could they argue that KM & Co are bringing the game into disrepute? It would also be great to have some sort of CAST representation to brief the FA prior.

    But as far as I know, Olster, CAFC could have turned down the televising of the game, knowing it clashed with international fixtures and we were likely to have a weakened team? It actually goes back to them knowing we would be lacking key players and not caring whether we won or not? There is no financial gain for the away team, so "needing the money" can't be used as an excuse.
    Charlton agreed the Swindon game on Sky before Magennis and Botaka were signed and once agreed that's it, so just unfortunate.
    I thought I read on here it was agreed a day before they signed. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick but if it was then the club would have known they were coming and should have had the foresight to pass up on the TV game.
  • The FA knows what has gone on, Katy & Co know what they have done wrong.
    One side is useless, has a head in the sand attitude and is only interested in creaming money off football. The FA is pretty much the same.
  • I can't see that the FA will have any authority here but this will embarrass her and Roland. For a young 30 something trying to make a career in football, being hauled in front of the FA will be yet another tarnish on her CV and likely give her even less opportunity to sit on panels and the like. This is a very positive thing for us fans I think. Needs to play our CARDs right.
  • olster said:

    Interesting point @Algarveaddick about not trying to win games, but the club could (rightly) argue that not being able to reschedule the Swindon game meant we weren't in a position to win.

    Could they argue that KM & Co are bringing the game into disrepute? It would also be great to have some sort of CAST representation to brief the FA prior.

    But as far as I know, Olster, CAFC could have turned down the televising of the game, knowing it clashed with international fixtures and we were likely to have a weakened team? It actually goes back to them knowing we would be lacking key players and not caring whether we won or not? There is no financial gain for the away team, so "needing the money" can't be used as an excuse.
    Charlton agreed the Swindon game on Sky before Magennis and Botaka were signed and once agreed that's it, so just unfortunate.
    I thought I read on here it was agreed a day before they signed. Maybe I got the wrong end of the stick but if it was then the club would have known they were coming and should have had the foresight to pass up on the TV game.
    Yeah SKY confirmed the game on Aug 10th, whilst we signed Magennis on the 11th (Not sure when we signed Botaka)
  • CAFC Luke said:

    Do they actually have any authority though? Fair enough Summoning her, but if they actually wanted to do something, what could they possibly do?

    Exactly... they cant take Charlton Athletic away from these owners because who'd pay the wages for Players / Staff (down to those who man the ticket office) at the club.

    I guess the only thing they could do is enforce Administration upon us that doesnt see us get a 10-point deduction which'll hopefully allows a new party to come in and takeover the club
    On what grounds could they do that? They couldn't do anything like that, we haven't broken any rules.
    Clutching at straws here, but what about the alleged issues around the Tony Watt transfer?

    Not enough for administration, but it would be good if some light was shone upon Roland's dealings
    Not to mention Duchatelet's third-party ownership of Michy Batshuayi
    Wonder if you are on to something?
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,201
    edited November 2016
    Botaka also on the 11th, according to Wiki.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,410
    edited November 2016
    Katrien pictured entering FA Headquarters...


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  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    We got £10k for the Sky game. Probably not even covering the wages of the two players we had to pay that week without being able to use.
  • Splodge said:

    We got £10k for the Sky game. Probably not even covering the wages of the two players we had to pay that week without being able to use.

    Did we? Another one I got wrong then...

    Bloody facts getting in the way of a good theory. :blush:


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  • Jodaius
    Jodaius Posts: 562
    I understand the cynicism, but I don't see how this can be anything other than positive.

    As others have said, this is unprecedented. The FA will be fully aware of what they can and can't do, and have a history of trying to avoid getting involved in clubs' internal affairs. The fact that they have taken this action shows that they do care about the damage being done to the image of the game in this country, and are prepared to do what they can (even if it's not much). It will all add to the pressure.

    I firmly believe that KM is all about boosting her CV in order to work her way up to higher positions within the game. If the FA make clear to her that they are not impressed with her efforts so far, and the damage to her reputation is irreparable, it might just be enough for her to throw in the towel. Who knows, Roland might just follow.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,166
    edited November 2016

    CAFC Luke said:

    Do they actually have any authority though? Fair enough Summoning her, but if they actually wanted to do something, what could they possibly do?

    Exactly... they cant take Charlton Athletic away from these owners because who'd pay the wages for Players / Staff (down to those who man the ticket office) at the club.

    I guess the only thing they could do is enforce Administration upon us that doesnt see us get a 10-point deduction which'll hopefully allows a new party to come in and takeover the club
    On what grounds could they do that? They couldn't do anything like that, we haven't broken any rules.
    Clutching at straws here, but what about the alleged issues around the Tony Watt transfer?

    Not enough for administration, but it would be good if some light was shone upon Roland's dealings
    Not to mention Duchatelet's third-party ownership of Michy Batshuayi
    Wonder if you are on to something?


    Roland Duchatelet lis reported to have made C£9.9m from Michy Batshuayi's Chelsea move. The total transfer fee was €33 million.

    In April 2015, FIFA announced the banning of third-party ownership, and specifically prohibited either clubs or players from entering into economic rights agreements with third-party investors.[2] The ban took effect on 1 May 2015. The European Parliament also announced a similar ban in European sports on 11 November 2015 following the passing of Rule 136 of Parliament’s Rules of Procedure. In a written declaration, the European Parliament states that third-party ownership raises concerns over the integrity of competitions and introduces risks of criminal activities into sports.

    If that's not third-party ownership then what is? Why is a man who owns the economic rights of a footballer allowed to own an English football club by The FA? What's to say he hasn't tried to or even has existing agreements in place with some of our players or players that have played for us under his ownership? It would explain Tony Watt and I believe it's also something Diego Poyet alluded to when he left to join West Ham.
  • maybe she will send Sue Perks with a tray of vol-au-vonts in her face

    Changed that for you Large :-)
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Magennis and Botaka signed the day after it was announced. The club (Meire/Slade/Parkes etc) knew we were in talks with both, and that we could potentially have an issue.

    For the feeble amount of money offered, they should have rejected this particular TV appearance on the basis that our recruitment wasn't finished and we were looking to sign players who may be unavailable during International breaks.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,133
    Nothing to stop them from issuing a public censure of their mismanagement and dropping Meire from their committee. That would be embarrassing for the regime to say the least.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,003
    the FA are more likely to what to talk to her about crowd behaviour than any thing to do with ownership. Maybe will be forced to play in front of away fans only.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,133
    msomerton said:

    the FA are more likely to what to talk to her about crowd behaviour than any thing to do with ownership. Maybe will be forced to play in front of away fans only.

    Result! No more even having to weigh up the decision of attending or not.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,325
    The cracks are turning into leaks.
  • olster
    olster Posts: 1,403



    The pressure is ramping up. I've got no doubt that our classy and creative protests have a lot to do with this unprecedented level of scrutiny.

    Agreed, and had the B20 directly confronted RD on Sat the coverage and fallout could have been very different, damaging and this may never have happened.

    Progress against RD isn't constant, it's coming in fits and starts, but this feels like a win. Well done all.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,960
    The FA clearly have no clue - if they had they would have called for RD.