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  • kentred2 said:

    Can only be considered as the enemy if like Slade he is happy to work for Duchatalet and Mire.

    Don't really understand this at all. Are all the players "the enemy" ? They work for Duchatelet and Meire.

    Robinson is an out of work football manager who needs to earn a living. To him Charlton probably looks like a decent club despite what he has read and heard.

    Are the fans who pay money to Duchatelet "the enemy" ? What's their excuse ? Are fans who cheer the goals and want us to win "the enemy" ?

    I want RD and Meire gone but I still want us to win every game. Very difficult isn't it.

    Personally I want and hope Robinson does fantastically well and he gets my support until he loses it like Slade did.

    COYR


    Agreed... I dont like Robinson and the tweets that have been released confirm why I've never liked him... The fact remains though that if he's the new Charlton Manager he needs to be supported by us all and given a chance until results go right down the drain.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,406
    edited November 2016

    mogodon said:

    You simply have to give the fella a chance......after all, what's the alternative?

    Carry on protesting?!
    mogodon......the issue of carrying on with the protests and supporting the team /manager are surely two different things, are they not?
    Agree supporting the team and protesting are not mutually exclusive. The manager is a more grey area. He is a direct appointment of the regime and whoever he is has agreed to play by their rules (he must have or he wouldn't get the job). The best he can hope for is ambivalence. I hope that if Robinson is appointed that the remarks about the protests attributed to him are not accurate. If they are then, in the eyes of many, he will have allied himself to the regime and so alienated himself.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    A new manager urging everybody to stick together. Gosh, I'd never have thought of that myself.

    IF he says that protests need to stop then his approach is proprietorial as was Russell (d'yer see...be patient, Roger apologised to me) Slade which is typical of a manager. Indeed I don't blame a manager for wanting to control everything, after all it is their job on the line.

    A few REPORTED things bother me. For example blaming everybody and everything if there is failure, especially the officials. Karl, officials may be dire, but then again so is the weather, and pitches, accept they are simply an element of a match, don't criticise them if they are neutral. They may be crap, accept it.

    The other thing is that he is reported to have met Duchatelet, unlike Slade. God knows what happened in that meeting, but I suspect instruction about playing youngsters (who may not yet be ready) would have been given. I would also be suspicious of any verbal assurances which might have been made, Karl would be wise to get it in writing.

    I feel Duchatelet, like Winkleman, would have told Robinson how it ought to happen, and that Robinson unsurprisingly agreed. This probably explains the unsubstantiated position that protests must stop.

    Well Karl think carefully. You are a stranger swanning into what you previously called a basket case. If you are arrogant enough to sneer at long standing Charltonians in their angst, under the 'new start ' banner, then don't be surprised if there is a 'well who the feck are you?' reaction.

    The best thing you can do Karl is win matches, and automatic promotion, and then we take stock in the summer. If we don't go up you will have failed I'm afraid because speaking personally I'm all out of fresh starts and giving new blokes chances.

    Good luck Karl, and shut up and win.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    mogodon said:

    You simply have to give the fella a chance......after all, what's the alternative?

    Carry on protesting?!
    That's not an alternative, that can be done in combination.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Good luck Karl. If you look after the "sticking together", you can leave the protesting to us.
  • J BLOCK said:

    Priests need to stop! Have we ever lost when we've organised a big protest? Lapping up the lies already, not welcome

    What are the Church up to now?
    God bless you my son
  • Agree with Seth, talk is cheap ,winning is everything.
    This squad is two central midfield players away from being automatic promotion challengers, and playing two wingers as Curbs always did ,stretches teams ,creates goals.and Nugent has seen that in his two games in charge.
    Get us into Championship again Karl,and let your team do the talking on the pitch,and keep your mouth shut about demonstrations,they should not effect you.
    What our plan is once we are back in Championship is key,if Duchatalet has a brain he will spend some money and try and get us stable and sell us on and get his cash back,he maybe rich enough but not willing enough to spend us into Premier League.
    So Karl do your job, and hope you make it through to summer.
  • J BLOCK said:

    Priests need to stop! Have we ever lost when we've organised a big protest? Lapping up the lies already, not welcome

    What are the Church up to now?
    God bless you my son
    Reading that just made me sneeze... thanks Dad!!
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,199
    edited November 2016
    I quite like him and this is definitely the best we could hope for given our circumstances. He seems like an upbeat kind of bloke and the kind of manager that players will work for.

    For me, he is not 'the enemy' until he proves otherwise.

    However, when I try to picture him in my mind I just get James Corden, so I'll need to work on that.

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  • Paddy7
    Paddy7 Posts: 1,663
    Well if it is going to be him, let's not hang him before we've heard what he's got to say. He'd be very wise to steer clear of comments on the protests unless put on the spot by an interviewer. If, as is reported, he met Duchatelet, then he'll of course have heard a very loaded version of what's been going on, and Meire will doubtless just add to that.

    He will however be taking over a team that's finally high on confidence, showing what they can do on the front foot against some of the moderate opposition in a division he knows very well. The play-offs remain very much within reach and from his first few seasons at MK Not Dons I recall some attacking football that was easy on the eye, and I'd personally be more surprised if we're not around the top six by May.

    However, a significant part of his achievements at a smaller club was sustaining promotion bids on what appeared to be very limited budgets, with promising young players moved on for substantial profit. In itself that is laudable, but could that perhaps be the single biggest appeal to his new employers? In many ways he fits their agenda perfectly but he should be very careful not to antagonise what is already a hostile fanbase by making ill-informed comments on an issue he understandably knows little about.

    In our current position he strikes me as a sensible, realistic appointment, but at the moment on and off-pitch matters are inextricably linked. From the little I've seen of him, I don't share the opinion that he's smug, arrogant, or unlikeable, but I do fear for his image in SE7 if he fails completely to grasp what's causing the tension. If you're coming Karl, listen and learn from those who really know and still care, and give us something to cheer.
  • seth plum said:

    A new manager urging everybody to stick together. Gosh, I'd never have thought of that myself.

    IF he says that protests need to stop then his approach is proprietorial as was Russell (d'yer see...be patient, Roger apologised to me) Slade which is typical of a manager. Indeed I don't blame a manager for wanting to control everything, after all it is their job on the line.

    A few REPORTED things bother me. For example blaming everybody and everything if there is failure, especially the officials. Karl, officials may be dire, but then again so is the weather, and pitches, accept they are simply an element of a match, don't criticise them if they are neutral. They may be crap, accept it.

    The other thing is that he is reported to have met Duchatelet, unlike Slade. God knows what happened in that meeting, but I suspect instruction about playing youngsters (who may not yet be ready) would have been given. I would also be suspicious of any verbal assurances which might have been made, Karl would be wise to get it in writing.

    I feel Duchatelet, like Winkleman, would have told Robinson how it ought to happen, and that Robinson unsurprisingly agreed. This probably explains the unsubstantiated position that protests must stop.

    Well Karl think carefully. You are a stranger swanning into what you previously called a basket case. If you are arrogant enough to sneer at long standing Charltonians in their angst, under the 'new start ' banner, then don't be surprised if there is a 'well who the feck are you?' reaction.

    The best thing you can do Karl is win matches, and automatic promotion, and then we take stock in the summer. If we don't go up you will have failed I'm afraid because speaking personally I'm all out of fresh starts and giving new blokes chances.

    Good luck Karl, and shut up and win.

    Winners moan when they don't win.

    Alex Ferguson never ever blamed an official or something equally spurious. You never here Mourhinho complaining and blaming someone other than the real reason.

    It might not be an appealing characteristic but I'm afraid it goes with disliking not winning. What's the old saying. Nice guys come second. Warnock is I suppose the classic example I'm looking for. Away from football he's a charming man.

    If the price we as supporters pay for some rare success is having a manager that sometimes sounds like a bit of a knob then I'm ok with that.

    I want him to bring success to the football team I support not invite him round for dinner.

    In any case I suspect he's a very nice chap when not doing his job.



  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,738
    We have to give him a chance as we have done with managers in the past. The support the team not the regime is a very important statement. He needs to be advised to keep the two apart and focus on getting us up the league.
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    Of course we'll give him a chance, what choice have we got? The question is whether or not Roland gives him a chance.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,475
    What the F*** is Roland STILL doing in Paris?

    Hardly uprooting trees to find a new manager is he.

    I think he has issues with visiting countries that don't speak his native tongue.
    That picture of him on the tube that time,only time, he came over.
    He looked like he was ready to s*** himself any moment.

    Grow a pair Roland.
    Your children need you!
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    He was on a southeastern train wasn't he?
  • Seeing he's a scoucer, if he wears a suit match days we could nickname him the accused.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,991

    He was on a southeastern train wasn't he?

    Yep. Presumably wondering why it took an hour and a half to get from Woolwich Arsenal to Charlton and trying to work out what "Displaced Train Crew" means in Flemish.

    That's probably why he never comes to games. If my first experience after arriving in England was a ride on South Eastern I doubt I'd come back.
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    Will see what KR has to say in his press conference however anyone who goes for a job under this administration is clearly not on our side.
  • dizzee
    dizzee Posts: 5,616
    I think his aim should be play offs. Even if we lose in the playoffs then he should still be kept on as they're a lottery after all.

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  • Will see what KR has to say in his press conference however anyone who goes for a job under this administration is clearly not on our side.

    I would assume on the side of the people or person, paying his salary!.
    Doubt very much the new manager, would put on a black and white scarf and start protesting in Belgium, as hopefuly too busy trying to steer his new side, back to the Championship.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,134
    I'll take him as manager if the first thing he does is fire Chris O'Loughlin...
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017

    seth plum said:

    A new manager urging everybody to stick together. Gosh, I'd never have thought of that myself.

    IF he says that protests need to stop then his approach is proprietorial as was Russell (d'yer see...be patient, Roger apologised to me) Slade which is typical of a manager. Indeed I don't blame a manager for wanting to control everything, after all it is their job on the line.

    A few REPORTED things bother me. For example blaming everybody and everything if there is failure, especially the officials. Karl, officials may be dire, but then again so is the weather, and pitches, accept they are simply an element of a match, don't criticise them if they are neutral. They may be crap, accept it.

    The other thing is that he is reported to have met Duchatelet, unlike Slade. God knows what happened in that meeting, but I suspect instruction about playing youngsters (who may not yet be ready) would have been given. I would also be suspicious of any verbal assurances which might have been made, Karl would be wise to get it in writing.

    I feel Duchatelet, like Winkleman, would have told Robinson how it ought to happen, and that Robinson unsurprisingly agreed. This probably explains the unsubstantiated position that protests must stop.

    Well Karl think carefully. You are a stranger swanning into what you previously called a basket case. If you are arrogant enough to sneer at long standing Charltonians in their angst, under the 'new start ' banner, then don't be surprised if there is a 'well who the feck are you?' reaction.

    The best thing you can do Karl is win matches, and automatic promotion, and then we take stock in the summer. If we don't go up you will have failed I'm afraid because speaking personally I'm all out of fresh starts and giving new blokes chances.

    Good luck Karl, and shut up and win.

    Winners moan when they don't win.

    Alex Ferguson never ever blamed an official or something equally spurious. You never here Mourhinho complaining and blaming someone other than the real reason.

    It might not be an appealing characteristic but I'm afraid it goes with disliking not winning. What's the old saying. Nice guys come second. Warnock is I suppose the classic example I'm looking for. Away from football he's a charming man.

    If the price we as supporters pay for some rare success is having a manager that sometimes sounds like a bit of a knob then I'm ok with that.

    I want him to bring success to the football team I support not invite him round for dinner.

    In any case I suspect he's a very nice chap when not doing his job.



    Spot on SHG.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Fumbluff said:

    I'll take him as manager if the first thing he does is fire Chris O'Loughlin...

    He's done nothing wrong - since he's turned up we've been decent. Exactly the same as Nugent actually

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,017
    edited November 2016

    Will see what KR has to say in his press conference however anyone who goes for a job under this administration is clearly not on our side.

    I wish people would stop spouting such absolute rubbish.

    So according to you, none of the players that have signed under RD are on our side ?

    Also, RD could still be here for 5 years, so you don't want us to have a manager indefinitely ?

    That's right isn't it ?
  • WSS said:
    Lol, she has obviously never been to SE7. You need to have a word with Danny Murphy's wife luv!!!
  • Curb_It
    Curb_It Posts: 21,232
    Fingers crossed she doesn't get morons abusing her now that has been posted.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,634
    cant stand the guy to be honest. Hope he proves me wrong, but doubt he will.

    13/8 to be be gone by the end of the season