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Should I be able to defend my family in our own home without fear?
clb74
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An incident occurred early this morning.
It started when hearing noises from next door and outside at 4am I thought the neighbours must be going away as sounding like must be going to from car.
At 4.30 came down to kitchen to get a glass of water noises start again walk to the hallway to find someone at the door trying to get in now put knife in hand as In kitchen.
I punch the front door telling them to fuck off voice comes over oh sorry blokes out his head either drunk or drugs.
Have sort of realised by now he probably not trying to break in.
Ring the police as the wife's telling me he still outside .
The scariest part for me in all this was if anyone was to enter our home they or me would be not walking out I'd be asking questions later and that if it was them lying on the floor half dead there is if only a slight chance I could end up in prison.
All for what i see defending the family.
It started when hearing noises from next door and outside at 4am I thought the neighbours must be going away as sounding like must be going to from car.
At 4.30 came down to kitchen to get a glass of water noises start again walk to the hallway to find someone at the door trying to get in now put knife in hand as In kitchen.
I punch the front door telling them to fuck off voice comes over oh sorry blokes out his head either drunk or drugs.
Have sort of realised by now he probably not trying to break in.
Ring the police as the wife's telling me he still outside .
The scariest part for me in all this was if anyone was to enter our home they or me would be not walking out I'd be asking questions later and that if it was them lying on the floor half dead there is if only a slight chance I could end up in prison.
All for what i see defending the family.
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Blimey.0
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Think this is a dilemma that everyone has. Not sure there is an easy solution either. Think my natural response would be to twat them and worry later.5
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Smack them, don't stab them.3
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If some one invades your home that is grounds for self defence. Break the guys legs but don't stab him.1
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Buy yourself a cheap cricket bat or baseball bat from sports direct and keep it somewhere accessible0
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Krav Maga seems a bit gimmicky to me. Cricket bat should do the trick.Baldybonce said:
As for the above, sounds like a drunk couldn't find his home.1 -
So glad I don't live in London. Many parts now not safe imo.11
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Yeah, you're right. Because there are no break-ins or arseholes outside of London are there. FACT.GetOutOfMyClub said:So glad I don't live in London. Many parts now not safe imo.
But then again if you don't live in London how would you know what it's like to live there?
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Oi I live in Kent leafy bromleyGetOutOfMyClub said:So glad I don't live in London. Many parts now not safe imo.
The bat was upstairs I was downstairs near kitchen hence the knife
Lucky enough it come to nothing.
It was when I was thinking afterwards you could top up I prison for keeping the family safe.0 -
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Can you get pepper-spray in The U.K. these days?0
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That is no way to talk about the wife, I found her very pleasant when we met.clb74 said:
Oi I live in Kent leafy bromleyGetOutOfMyClub said:So glad I don't live in London. Many parts now not safe imo.
The bat was upstairs I was downstairs near kitchen hence the knife
Lucky enough it come to nothing.
It was when I was thinking afterwards you could top up I prison for keeping the family safe.13 -
When I moved from Greenwich down to Gravesend I looked at crime figures. Burglary and car crime figures were largely the same in Kent as in London. Street crime (muggings, etc.) and drug crime far lower outside the capital.
If you're going to keep a baseball bat near your front door, just ensure you have a glove and ball nearby, should divert any questions about whether it was kept as a weapon or as a piece of sports equipment.1 -
You can do pretty much anything to an assailant if you fear for your life. What you can't do is beat him to the ground, go away, get a knife and stab him.clb74 said:
Oi I live in Kent leafy bromleyGetOutOfMyClub said:So glad I don't live in London. Many parts now not safe imo.
The bat was upstairs I was downstairs near kitchen hence the knife
Lucky enough it come to nothing.
It was when I was thinking afterwards you could top up I prison for keeping the family safe.
The link I provided is for my mates company, myself and my son have done about 20 hours of self defence with him. He is good.
If you'd like to join us for a taster PM me.0 -
The reality is you can do most things if they break in. Short of shooting a running man in the back with a shotgun that is.0
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I would have started describing the situation at Charlton to him. I find that people soon glaze over and become very tranquil when I do that.18
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I'd of asked him if he was a veggie before physically assaulting him.3
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with a Brussel sprout.i_b_b_o_r_g said:I'd of asked him if he was a veggie before physically assaulting him.
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Waved a new blue at himBaldybonce said:
with a Brussel sprout.i_b_b_o_r_g said:I'd of asked him if he was a veggie before physically assaulting him.
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I had five guys in balaclavas carrying crowbars in my bedroom at 1am. If I'd tried anything other than talking I'd have been fucked. Sure, having a gun would have been amazing. But saying the right stuff meant nobody got hurt.2
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Join us after the break for more 'When rent boys go bad' here on Channel 5.JiMMy 85 said:I had five guys in balaclavas carrying crowbars in my bedroom at 1am. If I'd tried anything other than talking I'd have been fucked. Sure, having a gun would have been amazing. But saying the right stuff meant nobody got hurt.
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Get some dogs if you can. They'll wake you and everybody else up at the first sound of somebody approaching let alone trying to break in and they'll let any intruders know they've picked the wrong house.0
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Sorry to hear about that CLB. I can understand how you feel, but I wouldn't be posting comments on the internet, "they or me would be not walking out". Should something happen, and should someone's lawyer see it, it could be taken as evidence of pre-meditated violence on your part (a long shot I know, but you never know what will happen and how things could be construed). I'd advise amending your post and when you have I'll delete this one.
Anyway here's hoping that it was just a one-off.2 -
agree .. no knife just a bat or possibly a mallet, something hard but not potentially lethal .. and if you're cornered or attacked, belt the fucker as hard as you like .. but always give them a chance to 'retreat' .. self defence is the key to causing an intruder serious injury and 'getting away with it' .. it's a VERY frightening experience having trouble in or around your home .. you gotta defend yourself and your family though0
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But luckily you've left the urban cesspit of Beckenham behind you now Lincs.Lincsaddick said:agree .. no knife just a bat or possibly a mallet, something hard but not potentially lethal .. and if you're cornered or attacked, belt the fucker as hard as you like .. but always give them a chance to 'retreat' .. self defence is the key to causing an intruder serious injury and 'getting away with it' .. it's a VERY frightening experience having trouble in or around your home .. you gotta defend yourself and your family though
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Hilarious!Uboat said:
Join us after the break for more 'When rent boys go bad' here on Channel 5.JiMMy 85 said:I had five guys in balaclavas carrying crowbars in my bedroom at 1am. If I'd tried anything other than talking I'd have been fucked. Sure, having a gun would have been amazing. But saying the right stuff meant nobody got hurt.
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well, if you live in Beckenham, it would suit you, as it's a cesspitOff_it said:
But luckily you've left the urban cesspit of Beckenham behind you now Lincs.Lincsaddick said:agree .. no knife just a bat or possibly a mallet, something hard but not potentially lethal .. and if you're cornered or attacked, belt the fucker as hard as you like .. but always give them a chance to 'retreat' .. self defence is the key to causing an intruder serious injury and 'getting away with it' .. it's a VERY frightening experience having trouble in or around your home .. you gotta defend yourself and your family though
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Hammer, straight across the knees0
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I don't care about the reprocussions of someone entering my house, they deserve all what they get in my eyes, they shouldn't of been there, I hope the situation never arises but if it did I hope the jury would find me not guilty because if I was on the panel I could never convict someone for defending their home no matter what happened to the scum.3
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The biggest problem with any kind of of weapon is what happens if the other chap takes it from you.
By far the best course of action is to let them know you are there and then allow them to leave. Remember they know, by now, where you live. Even if you kill the chap in self defence he is likely to have friends and family that will know where you live and those type of people are more likely to want revenge.
Having a bat reachable means that you do need to disable them or it is likely that you will suffer as a consequence. Hurt one of them and lose the bat and as soon as they've dealt with you your wife and kids are at serious risk.
It's not cowardly to avoid a fight, it's sensible.13
