The General Election - June 8th 2017

Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

guinnessaddick said:

RedArmySE7 said:

Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.

It was all campaigning, local campaigning and national.

RedArmySE7 said:

guinnessaddick said:

RedArmySE7 said:

Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

I think local campaigning was allow, national restarts tomorrow.

It was all campaigning, local campaigning and national.

Heard on the BBC news on the radio, that local started today & national tomorrow.

RedArmySE7 said:

Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

Nothing else to complain about then. I expect things will be back to normal tomorrow so you can then start

cabbles said:

Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.

Better tell Corbyn that then - he thinks money grows on trees & you can spend it like water.

golfaddick said:

RedArmySE7 said:

Got home to see the local conservatives have dropped some electioneering material through the door today, I thought campaigning was suspended?! Absolutely shameful in my opinion.

Nothing else to complain about then. I expect things will be back to normal tomorrow so you can then start

cabbles said:

Unfortunately for the Tories they're finding out that providing public services actually costs the government money.

Better tell Corbyn that then - he thinks money grows on trees & you can spend it like water.

So you think it's alright then?

seth plum said:

Teachers will probably get in early and provide the breakfasts out of their own pocket for their children.
Then the Tories will be able to say that teachers do a wonderful job.
If you think that teachers providing stuff for the kids will not happen, it's happened since the beginning of schooling, the Tories will make it a strong and stable initiative, and there will be an award of a tin medal for the 'teacher of the year' whose breakfasts are the best ones.

"It's a good job there are food banks." Copyright. G Osborne.

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

It's not beyond the realms of possibility.

Oops, oh dear. https://theguardian.com/education/2017/may/24/theresa-may-free-school-breakfasts-undercosted-tory-manifesto?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

EveshamAddick said:

Oops, oh dear. https://theguardian.com/education/2017/may/24/theresa-may-free-school-breakfasts-undercosted-tory-manifesto?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

I guess a double u turn means you end up in the initial direction?

Weak and wobbly.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32806520

Police Federation crying wolf over cuts, says Theresa May

Mrs May told federation members: "I have to tell you that this kind of scaremongering does nobody any good - it doesn't serve you, it doesn't serve the officers you represent, and it doesn't serve the public."
She listed warnings by the Police Federation - which represents rank and file officers in England and Wales - over recent years about "demoralised" and "angry" officers, along with claims members of the public were being put in danger.
"The truth is that crime fell in each of those years, it's fallen further since, and our country is safer than it's ever been," she said.
"So please - for your sake and for the thousands of police officers who work so hard every day - this crying wolf has to stop.

harveys_gardener said:

The number of police officers in England and Wales has fallen by nearly 20,000 since its peak level in 2009, Home Office figures show.

There were 124,066 officers in the year ending March 2016 compared with 143,769 seven years ago - a fall of 14%.

Both front line and local police numbers have fallen while officers on long-term sick leave have increased.

The Police Federation for England and Wales said the figures were "deeply worrying and disappointing".

Police budgets have faced significant cuts since 2010 - an overall 18% reduction in real terms.

It's not just direct cuts to the police service that effects their capacity. It's the type of work that's changing. I speak to police officers regularly in both a professional and social situation. All of them comment that they spend too much time as proxy social workers for a start. Or dealing with those are not getting the mental health support they require and used to get. Or those with addiction issues or dealing with the fall out of rising levels of rough sleepers...and so on.

All of these issues are outside the police remit but are taking up increasing amounts of their time because this government has cut the funding to local authorities in particular whose job it is to tackle them.

Our public services are hugely interconnected yet our government is cutting swathes through some sectors that it (rightly) thinks it can get away with, yet voters cannot see the knock on impact it has on others of this. See also cuts to council social care budgets > unable to put a care package together > hospital bed blocking > ambulances backed up outside hospitals > delays in response time.

aliwibble said:

colthe3rd said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

It's not beyond the realms of possibility.

Oh come on. I know I have a reputation for being a rabid leftie on here, but even I don't think that. If they'd just upped the threat level without this happening, that might be one thing, but in the current circumstances, it's hardly surprising.

I personally don't think it's the case but I'm also not naive enough to think that a politician wouldn't use something like this for their own gain. You just have to look at speeches by May and Rudd this week. Campaigning was suspended yet they are still there telling us how strong and stable we must be and that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected.

colthe3rd said:

aliwibble said:

colthe3rd said:

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Crass theory doing the rounds from the Loony Left that May has risen the threat level in order to further her cause with regards to the GE

It's not beyond the realms of possibility.

Oh come on. I know I have a reputation for being a rabid leftie on here, but even I don't think that. If they'd just upped the threat level without this happening, that might be one thing, but in the current circumstances, it's hardly surprising.

I personally don't think it's the case but I'm also not naive enough to think that a politician wouldn't use something like this for their own gain. You just have to look at speeches by May and Rudd this week. Campaigning was suspended yet they are still there telling us how strong and stable we must be and that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected.

They're doing their jobs, unfortunately this will have the effect of looking like campaigning.

Have they really told us that anti terror funding will be increased if they are reelected during this crisis? I haven't seen it, be interested to if so.

Purely in the abstract, a crisis in a campaign will help the incumbent. They'd be mad to even think about campaigning. They have free air time and the opposition muzzled, they don't need to campaign, just carry on doing their jobs.