The General Election - June 8th 2017
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What happens when the big companies and the rich move abroad because they don't like the tax hike?
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Yeah don't they go to places like the Cayman islands and Ireland.Big_Bad_World said:
Are businesses only allowed to go to a G7 member?Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)2 -
I don't think there are easy answers to complex questions.McBobbin said:
He said that as well. Eventually. When there's an easy answer I wish he'd just say it, then expand. I like that Corbyn is thoughtful and nuanced, and gives reasoned answers rather than clichés and soundbites (like May) but he did waffle a fair bit tonight.Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)1 -
I am sure I have just seen Jonah from Veep in the spin room.0
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To extrapolate the argument, rre you suggesting that we should have the lowest rate in the world to attract all and any business?newyorkaddick said:
The most valuable companies in the world today comprise people and some server rooms.Callumcafc said:
And if you think businesses are seriously going to go to Outer Mongolia just for a better tax rate, you're wrong.Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)0 -
My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.3
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The Labour Party continue to fuck up the nuclear issue in the spin room. Do they actually want to win this election.0
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No but let's not pretend we hold all of the aces....Callumcafc said:
To extrapolate the argument, rre you suggesting that we should have the lowest rate in the world to attract all and any business?newyorkaddick said:
The most valuable companies in the world today comprise people and some server rooms.Callumcafc said:
And if you think businesses are seriously going to go to Outer Mongolia just for a better tax rate, you're wrong.Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)0 -
That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)2 - Sponsored links:
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Lower the mandatory euthanasia age to 45 and I might agreenewyorkaddick said:My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.
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Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?
I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.10 -
I completed agree - but that wasn't a particularly complex question, and most of what he said was irrelevant. Ok I understand that politicians have to shoehorn their points in, but I was getting a bit frustrated.EveshamAddick said:
I don't think there are easy answers to complex questions.McBobbin said:
He said that as well. Eventually. When there's an easy answer I wish he'd just say it, then expand. I like that Corbyn is thoughtful and nuanced, and gives reasoned answers rather than clichés and soundbites (like May) but he did waffle a fair bit tonight.Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)
He did better than may though I thought.0 -
Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to dieSELR_addicks said:Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?
I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.-1 -
Yer, not worth moving HQ to Ireland or BermudaLeuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)
It won't be the smaller companies, but larger corps will go where business is best and in a number of industries (mine included) an amount has already left the UK and will continue at a far greater pace if Labour are elected.
Plus for every one company that re-domiciles you also lose a bucket load of tax & NI (both employer and employee) which will probably far outweigh the corp tax receipt they lose at any rate.0 -
WHY WONT YOU NUKE ANYONE YOU BLOODY IRA BASTARD!!7
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Why is this even up for debate? Using a nuclear bomb is a bad thing, end of. The guy wants world peace yet people are more concerned on wanting him to kill millions of people. Lost faith in humanity a bit tonight.Red_in_SE8 said:The Labour Party continue to fuck up the nuclear issue in the spin room. Do they actually want to win this election.
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Didn't it? The suggestion was that if Corporation Tax was raised, companies would move to other countries. The response was that Labour's proposal to raise Corporation Tax would still result in the UK having the lowest rates of the other G7 countries, and with CT still being lower that it was in 2010. So, if companies did decide to leave the UK, it would clearly be for other reasons.Greenie Junior said:
That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)5 -
Always amazes me that people who tend to talk about economic prudence in policy and the social state also seem to advocate we should be grateful for the scraps from corporation's tables. You'd think they'd go after them like a no good twenty stone smoking father of six benefit scum.8
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On the list of "things it is important for me to agree with a potential prime minister about" - whether he would fire a nuclear missile at some hypothetical enemy after London has been incinerated in a hypothetical nuclear attack is not near the top.11
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It's about the only argument the Tory boys feel they can pin him into a corner on. That's why they're so blood thirsty, IMO.3
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You mean I won't get to see Karl Robinson's team win the 2017/18 League title? :-(Leuth said:
Lower the mandatory euthanasia age to 45 and I might agreenewyorkaddick said:My main takeaway from both the Q&A sessions is that they should raise the voting age to 40.
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Why the actual fuck would Iran or North Korea decide to nuke the UK? It's such a moronic point to get upset about.
Reminds me of Yes Prime Minister... When Hacker said "the Russians will never bomb us" and an outraged Sir Humphrey yelled "the Russians? These are to protect us from the French!"
Just as well we aren't leaving a union with them...9 -
I don't understand why Corbyn doesn't just say "stop reading the Daily Mail and Daily Express," Cos that would make life a lot easier all round.
The idea that North Korea is going to bomb us is almost hilarious. "How will you stop them!?" - we really don't have to stop them bombing us. But he's right - you don't stop them by nuking them. Like it's even close to the top of the list of things that might kill any of us.9 -
Why couldn't they move to Ireland?EveshamAddick said:
Didn't it? The suggestion was that if Corporation Tax was raised, companies would move to other countries. The response was that Labour's proposal to raise Corporation Tax would still result in the UK having the lowest rates of the other G7 countries, and with CT still being lower that it was in 2010. So, if companies did decide to leave the UK, it would clearly be for other reasons.Greenie Junior said:
That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)0 -
that bloke was a tool. comes out with well if we got it we might as well use itLeuth said:
Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to dieSELR_addicks said:Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?
I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.
I so wish Jeremy replied "ok, well who do you suggest we bomb first?"
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They have the history - the Grand Old Nuke of York.Sheepie1985 said:Since when were the people of York so obsessed with using nukes?
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Do they want to do business in our very wealthy economy? We are about to leave the EU after all and about to negotiate a lot of new trade deals.Big_Bad_World said:
Why couldn't they move to Ireland?EveshamAddick said:
Didn't it? The suggestion was that if Corporation Tax was raised, companies would move to other countries. The response was that Labour's proposal to raise Corporation Tax would still result in the UK having the lowest rates of the other G7 countries, and with CT still being lower that it was in 2010. So, if companies did decide to leave the UK, it would clearly be for other reasons.Greenie Junior said:
That literally hasn't answered the question he was asked..Leuth said:
Corporation tax at 26% still lower than the other G7 countries. There, answeredGreenie Junior said:Missed the Theresa May part but I must say Corbyn at least believes in what he says which makes a change for politics. In my opinion if he didn't have himself surrounded with people like Abbott and McDonnell people would be much more inclined to vote for him.
He's thrown a bit of a wobbly on the nuclear weapons questions and as someone said earlier he answers every question in a vague way by expanding the answer in to other things, as I type this he's completely dodged the blokes questions about business' moving abroad (this is one of my big worries)1 -
Thing is, he said he'd rather have it and not use it than not have it.Karim_myBagheri said:
that bloke was a tool. comes out with well if we got it we might as well use itLeuth said:
Old people and that one bug-eyed goon who needs to dieSELR_addicks said:Why do old people care about nuclear war so much?
I'd probably put it at around #1000000000000000 of likely things to kill me in the future.
No idea why Corbyn didn't just say 'Good, that's the whole Labour plan.'1 -
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