The Ashes 2017-18
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That is harsh on Bairstow, his keeping has improved no end and in the modern game you simply won't see another Bob Taylor.SantaClaus said:
A team with too many unconvincing batsmen, a quartet of underpaced bowlers and a keeper and spinner who aren't that great at their primary roles. We're going to get f*****.Callumcafc said:Every time someone says Broad is past it or he doesn't take wickets anymore, he goes and has a blinding series so I hope that's the case there. ;-)
Looking like the team will be:
Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball/Overton, Anderson.2 -
There is no way all their top 3 quicks will play in all the Tests.McBobbin said:
The Australian team aren't great either. Smith and Warner are the danger men with the bat, bit really it's Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood who are going to tip it to the Aussies. Lyon is effective without being impressive.SantaClaus said:
A team with too many unconvincing batsmen, a quartet of underpaced bowlers and a keeper and spinner who aren't that great at their primary roles. We're going to get f*****.Callumcafc said:Every time someone says Broad is past it or he doesn't take wickets anymore, he goes and has a blinding series so I hope that's the case there. ;-)
Looking like the team will be:
Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball/Overton, Anderson.3 -
Lyon has 269 wickets at 32, which is pretty impressive ( Moeen may be a much better batsman, but he has 128 wickets at 37)McBobbin said:
The Australian team aren't great either. Smith and Warner are the danger men with the bat, bit really it's Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood who are going to tip it to the Aussies. Lyon is effective without being impressive.SantaClaus said:
A team with too many unconvincing batsmen, a quartet of underpaced bowlers and a keeper and spinner who aren't that great at their primary roles. We're going to get f*****.Callumcafc said:Every time someone says Broad is past it or he doesn't take wickets anymore, he goes and has a blinding series so I hope that's the case there. ;-)
Looking like the team will be:
Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball/Overton, Anderson.
Their 3 quicks, rotating with Lyon will be the deciding factor I fear, as their batting is comparable.1 -
Khawaja and Hanscomb both average over 55 in Aus conditions.McBobbin said:
The Australian team aren't great either. Smith and Warner are the danger men with the bat, bit really it's Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood who are going to tip it to the Aussies. Lyon is effective without being impressive.SantaClaus said:
A team with too many unconvincing batsmen, a quartet of underpaced bowlers and a keeper and spinner who aren't that great at their primary roles. We're going to get f*****.Callumcafc said:Every time someone says Broad is past it or he doesn't take wickets anymore, he goes and has a blinding series so I hope that's the case there. ;-)
Looking like the team will be:
Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball/Overton, Anderson.0 -
Have they faced Ball though? Eh?cantersaddick said:
Khawaja and Hanscomb both average over 55 in Aus conditions.McBobbin said:
The Australian team aren't great either. Smith and Warner are the danger men with the bat, bit really it's Starc, Cummins and Hazelwood who are going to tip it to the Aussies. Lyon is effective without being impressive.SantaClaus said:
A team with too many unconvincing batsmen, a quartet of underpaced bowlers and a keeper and spinner who aren't that great at their primary roles. We're going to get f*****.Callumcafc said:Every time someone says Broad is past it or he doesn't take wickets anymore, he goes and has a blinding series so I hope that's the case there. ;-)
Looking like the team will be:
Cook, Stoneman, Vince, Root, Malan, Bairstow, Ali, Woakes, Broad, Ball/Overton, Anderson.4 -
Overton, Ball or Crane, then? I mean I'd probably go with Crane because right-arm fast-medium seamers are BORING but England love BORING, last time we won in Australia it was cos they got bored facing Bresnan or something1
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CA 249-9 at close
Broad 16.0-5-33-1
Woakes 18.0-3-54-6
Ali 16.0-4-39-0
Overton 18.0-4-32-2
Crane 22.0-3-87-0
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Nothing about those names scare me. Smith and Warner are the only two players capable of taking a game away from us but we can counter that with two of our own in Cook and Root.cafcfan1990 said:
I would suggest the Australian top order will look something like this:Callumcafc said:No idea what the Aussie batting line up is going to look like. Warner, Smith... does Maxwell get test matches now? Who else?
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Hanscomb
6 will either be Maxwell or Hilton Cartwright
I have heard Nevill will get the nod over Wade for the wicket-keeping job.
I'd rather have Ali over Lyon but their quicks are unsurprisingly better suited to Australian conditions than our quicks. We'll have to see. A good series for two of Woakes, Broad and Anderson is the key in my opinion.2 -
That and we had tremlett and Finn. But thinking about it, some medium pace dibbly dobblers is the last thing they'd expect. Call up Darren Stevens.Leuth said:Overton, Ball or Crane, then? I mean I'd probably go with Crane because right-arm fast-medium seamers are BORING but England love BORING, last time we won in Australia it was cos they got bored facing Bresnan or something
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Looking like Woakes could be a key player for us, he seems to have his zip back and in the absence of Stokes, his batting will be crucialAddick Addict said:CA 249-9 at close
Broad 16.0-5-33-1
Woakes 18.0-3-54-6
Ali 16.0-4-39-0
Overton 18.0-4-32-2
Crane 22.0-3-87-05 -
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There is not one person in that WA team that I recognize.Addick Addict said:CA 249-9 at close
Broad 16.0-5-33-1
Woakes 18.0-3-54-6
Ali 16.0-4-39-0
Overton 18.0-4-32-2
Crane 22.0-3-87-00 -
Another slow pitch as well, so completely unrepresentative conditions for the Test matchesThe_President said:.
There is not one person in that WA team that I recognize.Addick Addict said:CA 249-9 at close
Broad 16.0-5-33-1
Woakes 18.0-3-54-6
Ali 16.0-4-39-0
Overton 18.0-4-32-2
Crane 22.0-3-87-0
I know England are just as guilty, but something needs to be done to make such tours fairer, as in recent years the home sides are becoming too dominant. Since 2005 every Ashes series, other than 2010/11, has been won by the home side, including two 5-0s...1 -
We could do with Mitch Starc stepping on a ball ALA Glenn McGrath, IMO he's the danger man and the one bowler who has the ability to really get in our batsmen's heads.2
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he's just ryan sidebottom without the hair, no bother2
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I don't think Ali is a better spinner than Lyon, perhaps the overall better player though given his batting.Callumcafc said:
Nothing about those names scare me. Smith and Warner are the only two players capable of taking a game away from us but we can counter that with two of our own in Cook and Root.cafcfan1990 said:
I would suggest the Australian top order will look something like this:Callumcafc said:No idea what the Aussie batting line up is going to look like. Warner, Smith... does Maxwell get test matches now? Who else?
Warner
Renshaw
Khawaja
Smith
Hanscomb
6 will either be Maxwell or Hilton Cartwright
I have heard Nevill will get the nod over Wade for the wicket-keeping job.
I'd rather have Ali over Lyon but their quicks are unsurprisingly better suited to Australian conditions than our quicks. We'll have to see. A good series for two of Woakes, Broad and Anderson is the key in my opinion.
I agree that bar Smith and Warner their batting doesn't look particularly strong, but neither does ours. Their seamers should outperform ours, unless someone like Ball or Overton surprise people.
It's a weird series, IMO will all come down to two or three people having an unexpected blinder, needs to be someone like Stoneman or Malan rather than Khawaja or Cartwright.0 -
Any Lifers in Brisbane for the Test? Sort of “can’t wait” but “worried we’ll fall apart”. As others have said, it might hinge on one or two from either side stepping up.0
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One thing about the last series in Oz was that we actually them in a lot of trouble on 3/4 different occasions and seemingly it was always smirk-faced Haddin that got them out of trouble by counter-attacking when the bowlers got tired. He aint there this time, and I cant see any one else doing it - its whether we can get them in the same position again though.0
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Are you not going to advocate Naby Sarr as captain and opening bat?Leuth said:Overton, Ball or Crane, then? I mean I'd probably go with Crane because right-arm fast-medium seamers are BORING but England love BORING, last time we won in Australia it was cos they got bored facing Bresnan or something
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I had a look at this, and the front order line up failed in the first innings by Oz in most of the tests and was rescued by Haddin..The_President said:One thing about the last series in Oz was that we actually them in a lot of trouble on 3/4 different occasions and seemingly it was always smirk-faced Haddin that got them out of trouble by counter-attacking when the bowlers got tired. He aint there this time, and I cant see any one else doing it - its whether we can get them in the same position again though.
1st Test - 132-6 recovered to 294 Haddin made 94
3rd Test 143-5 Haddin 55
4th 122-6 Haddin 65
5th 97-5 recovered to 326 with Haddin 750 -
Bang on - and the worst thing was that he had absolutely incredible luck in every innings, it was unbelievable how he got away with it.The_President said:
I had a look at this, and the front order line up failed in the first innings by Oz in most of the tests and was rescued by Haddin..The_President said:One thing about the last series in Oz was that we actually them in a lot of trouble on 3/4 different occasions and seemingly it was always smirk-faced Haddin that got them out of trouble by counter-attacking when the bowlers got tired. He aint there this time, and I cant see any one else doing it - its whether we can get them in the same position again though.
1st Test - 132-6 recovered to 294 Haddin made 94
3rd Test 143-5 Haddin 55
4th 122-6 Haddin 65
5th 97-5 recovered to 326 with Haddin 75
England were crap in that series but nobody could have lived with Harris and Johnson and, as you say, we bowled well but Haddin rescued them every Test with some outrageous luck.
None of those three will play in this series and their danger men are Warner, Smith and Starc.1 -
This is the all time Ashes team, as voted for on the BBC website
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/41944444
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Would agree with that except Greg Chappell for Border and maybe Knott for Gilchrist.0
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I think we all did this a few weeks ago. The format is flawed, you cannot pick two spinners and are limited to certain players in certain positions. My side (of players I've actually seen) is more balanced and more entertaining:The_President said:Would agree with that except Greg Chappell for Border and maybe Knott for Gilchrist.
Gooch
Hayden
Gower
Chappell G
Hughes K
Botham
Knott
Warne
Lillee
Underwood
Thomson0 -
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Anderson gets nowhere near the all time ashes XI1
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Well, Stoneman seems to be in the runs. (good thing he's not playing in India !)Riviera said:3 -
Aussie Twitter in a sort of angry frenzy cos they're picking Paine (one FC hundred ever, in 2006) and S Marsh. Tbf Paine is about their best wicketkeeper and S Marsh is very dangerous on his day0
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Surely Marsh is the best wicketkeeper...
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