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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    So in terms of bodies we lose Doodoo and Best and get Mavididi and possibly the return of Hanlan. A zero sum game.
    The takeover excuse is similar to the Lookman trench excuse.
    It won't prevent departures.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    seth plum said:

    So in terms of bodies we lose Doodoo and Best and get Mavididi and possibly the return of Hanlan. A zero sum game.
    The takeover excuse is similar to the Lookman trench excuse.
    It won't prevent departures.

    Plus it’s likely we lose Konsa.

  • Horsfield9
    Horsfield9 Posts: 3,082
    Until the Take-over happens, it appears we're well and truly fu*ked !!!
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Horsfield9 said:

    Until the Take-over happens, it appears we're well and truly fu*ked !!!

    No. We have to work harder. Play smarter.

    I have no time for this poor little us crap. We do have a good sized squad and there is half a season to go. Robbo will just have to get on with it. Never mind the bollox going on, give Oldham a drubbing.

    To be fair I can't see Robbo, Jackson and Bowyer giving this up and nor should we. New owners coming in, even if after the transfer window is shut will give everyone a fantastic lift and get the Valley rocking again.
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,582
    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,582
    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Shit, that's that thought blown out of the water then!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Fuck 'em. Our player = he plays for us. Bring him back & let the EFL sort it out.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Just heard on Sky Sports that Nile Ranger has had his contract cancelled by Southend.

    Maybe not the ideal player to bring him but beggars can't be choosers
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Slating giving young players a chance, but willing to give gang members a chance?
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  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454
    golfaddick said:

    Just heard on Sky Sports that Nile Ranger has had his contract cancelled by Southend.

    Maybe not the ideal player to bring him but beggars can't be choosers

    https://www.southendunited.co.uk/news/2018/january/club-statement-regarding-nile-ranger/

    Released due to disciplinary reasons,bad time-keeping.
    No good for us,won't play on his own up front, because he will get called 'the lone ranger'
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    golfaddick said:

    Just heard on Sky Sports that Nile Ranger has had his contract cancelled by Southend.

    Maybe not the ideal player to bring him but beggars can't be choosers

    No way.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Reece Oxford was recalled so this cannot be right.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited January 2018
    golfaddick said:

    Just heard on Sky Sports that Nile Ranger has had his contract cancelled by Southend.

    Maybe not the ideal player to bring him but beggars can't be choosers

    I'd rather play with 10 men than have that w@nker at the club.
  • GretnaGreenAddick
    GretnaGreenAddick Posts: 3,085
    harveys_gardener said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Reece Oxford was recalled so this cannot be right.
    I would not count on it, as we all know the rules never apply to Taxpayer United.
  • Red_James
    Red_James Posts: 186
    harveys_gardener said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Reece Oxford was recalled so this cannot be right.
    As far as i am aware doesn't matter if loan is national or international it depends on whether there is a termination clause inserted into the loan which would be agreed by either club prior to the loan being complete, so West Ham probably inserted this whereas under our ex esteemed CEO we probably didn't!

    Different clauses can be requested by either club in the negotiations of a loan/transfer such as a big club can request a player plays a certain position or certain number of games etc, can be recalled, loan cannot be terminated by the loanee club etc its all in the negotiations of a loan and if they are not kept too then loan can be cancelled or financial penalties.

    Like Ajoses' loan with Bury they cannot terminate the loan even though he hasn't played a lot etc
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    Red_James said:

    harveys_gardener said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Reece Oxford was recalled so this cannot be right.
    As far as i am aware doesn't matter if loan is national or international it depends on whether there is a termination clause inserted into the loan which would be agreed by either club prior to the loan being complete, so West Ham probably inserted this whereas under our ex esteemed CEO we probably didn't!

    Different clauses can be requested by either club in the negotiations of a loan/transfer such as a big club can request a player plays a certain position or certain number of games etc, can be recalled, loan cannot be terminated by the loanee club etc its all in the negotiations of a loan and if they are not kept too then loan can be cancelled or financial penalties.

    Like Ajoses' loan with Bury they cannot terminate the loan even though he hasn't played a lot etc
    but could we ?? Seeing as we have little option up front a recognised, experienced striker must be worth a go. Seeing as no-one seemed to like my earlier idea of bringing in Nile Ranger then what are our other options. Once we are into February we are stuck with what we have, and then if you are looking at un-attached players (like Best) and we know where that leads you.

    As I see it we have 3 options:

    1) No nothing
    2) Bring back the loanees
    3) sign freebies.
  • Mrkinski
    Mrkinski Posts: 957
    Sadly i dont think we will sign anyone further - free agents or loans - RD wont want the wage budget to go up with the potential takeover.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited January 2018
    Odd situation.... Peterborough's own manager asks his own director of football not to add Keifer Moore because he is too expensive. So maybe he is still available? Another paper says the price was just £250k. To think we can have him for that little if we just tried.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42572402
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,305
    NapaAddick said:

    Odd situation.... Peterborough's own manager asks his own director of football not to add Keifer Moore because he is too expensive. So maybe he is still available. Another paper says the price was just £250k. To think we can have him for that little.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42572402

    Biggest point I took is the fact that Peterborough are happy to offload Ricky Miller, bet they wish they'd accepted that £250k bid in the summer ;)
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    NapaAddick said:

    Odd situation.... Peterborough's own manager asks his own director of football not to add Keifer Moore because he is too expensive. So maybe he is still available? Another paper says the price was just £250k. To think we can have him for that little of we just tried.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42572402

    An odd one, but when the Director of football is Barry Fry, I imagine you have to be careful in case he buys 20 players in the window!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    NapaAddick said:

    Odd situation.... Peterborough's own manager asks his own director of football not to add Keifer Moore because he is too expensive. So maybe he is still available? Another paper says the price was just £250k. To think we can have him for that little of we just tried.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42572402

    Yesterday BBC were reporting that McCann thought that the chairman would probably think that although they had agreed the £250k fee that the add-ons would be too costly & would baulk at them.
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,910
    edited January 2018
    NapaAddick said:

    Odd situation.... Peterborough's own manager asks his own director of football not to add Keifer Moore because he is too expensive. So maybe he is still available? Another paper says the price was just £250k. To think we can have him for that little of we just tried.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/42572402

    It's silly and ironic that Duchatelet wasted several million on players who got us relegated, yet a paltry £250k isn't available for a player who could be our last chance of reaching the play-offs.

  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited January 2018
    If only RD had spent those millions wisely and taken us to the promised land it could have been a completely different story but the egotistical, megalomaniac, sociopath with a crazy experiment didn't understand the industry he was toying with and neither did his puppet. Hurry up and eff off Roly, time's up :angry:
  • Red_James
    Red_James Posts: 186
    golfaddick said:

    Red_James said:

    harveys_gardener said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Essex_Al said:

    If the takeover doesn't go through in time, get Igor back, he's our bloody player!

    Not sure we can as it's an international loan so I don't think it has a break clause.
    Reece Oxford was recalled so this cannot be right.
    As far as i am aware doesn't matter if loan is national or international it depends on whether there is a termination clause inserted into the loan which would be agreed by either club prior to the loan being complete, so West Ham probably inserted this whereas under our ex esteemed CEO we probably didn't!

    Different clauses can be requested by either club in the negotiations of a loan/transfer such as a big club can request a player plays a certain position or certain number of games etc, can be recalled, loan cannot be terminated by the loanee club etc its all in the negotiations of a loan and if they are not kept too then loan can be cancelled or financial penalties.

    Like Ajoses' loan with Bury they cannot terminate the loan even though he hasn't played a lot etc
    but could we ?? Seeing as we have little option up front a recognised, experienced striker must be worth a go. Seeing as no-one seemed to like my earlier idea of bringing in Nile Ranger then what are our other options. Once we are into February we are stuck with what we have, and then if you are looking at un-attached players (like Best) and we know where that leads you.

    As I see it we have 3 options:

    1) No nothing
    2) Bring back the loanees
    3) sign freebies.
    I think i remember reading somewhere that we might be able too, but I'm not 100% sure to be honest. But RD might not sanction it as Bury are currently paying his wages which i thought has been mentioned before to be around £5/6K pw??
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2018
    Greenie Junior said:

    Swisdom said:

    Mavididi and KAG up front would be absolutely blistering and should petrify any defence in this league.
    Give Josh a rest and go with 2 up top for a few games.

    Yeah, all them goals between the pair of them, hahaha
    Best and Mavididi would have been my preferred option. KAG scored two or three recently didn't he, so don't burden him with the 'never scores' tag just yet. We should have stuck with him when he was on that scoring mini streak maybe? Mavididi's scored regularly at a high enough level to make me think he's worth a go.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Bradford City have confirmed the League One club have made a "substantial" bid to sign Ipswich Town striker Kieffer Moore.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    The Red Robin said:

    Bradford City have confirmed the League One club have made a "substantial" bid to sign Ipswich Town striker Kieffer Moore.

    I wonder which club.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    JamesSeed said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Bradford City have confirmed the League One club have made a "substantial" bid to sign Ipswich Town striker Kieffer Moore.

    I wonder which club.
    ??

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