Ricky to go? (Pg17 Gone)
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Amazing people refer to Robinson as "Gobbinson". In the middle of the shit storm Robinson has been honest with fans providing the answers to the questions put to him and in this current climate I would wonder how many other managers would be as honest and open giving the fans the answers that they would like to know rather than side stepping them.LargeAddick said:“But what I won’t do is sell the player just for money. I’m sticking to my guns on that. I’d need a replacement immediately and then we’ll want to use the money to strengthen the squad.
“That’s my whole crux of the conversation and I need to be trusted with that. If I’m not trusted then I’m not the person for the job".
this could get interesting. If Ricky goes and no replacement comes in then I expect Gobbinson to walk. He won't though.
Robinson as a manager and as a man has earnt my respect more so during this period and certainly spent deserved to be called out just because he is the manager of the owner that is disliked.37 -
Fosu is way more skilful an HolmesPelling1993 said:Forster-Caskey is the best player at the club by a distance for me
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Ricky has had the benefit of scoring some headline goals; 'Worldies'. Now there's a fair amount of luck in smashing those in from 35 yards as any footballer will admit. Take away those goals and what have you got? Yes, he can get his head down and bomb down the wing, and cross the ball. And he does give 100%. In fact he can shoot given the chance.
But to me he's a little bit of a one trick pony. Do you ever see him put his foot on the ball, look up and play a killer pass? Not often. He hardly ever even dummies a cross so he can cut back inside. He's just a bit predictable, and the opposition has sussed him out, which has affected both Ricky and the side's fortunes.
Yes, he's one of our better players, but let's not kid ourselves that he's a premier league player, or even close to one. He probably deserves a chance to show what he can do in the Cchampionship, and if he makes it, with or without us, good luck to him.
[btw I don't think he can be sold while the club is 'under offer'.]5 -
for me, holmes has been no where near as good for us as he has been previously. runs down blind alleys and has one good cross in every 5 he attempts. as mentioned already, fosu is far more skilful and more valuable to us IMO. but of course he will be a big miss and there aren’t going to be many better we could afford however it’s not like we’re going to sign anyone to replace him anyway0
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Ricky is getting unfair treatment on this thread.
Everyone knows what he is capable of so holds him to a higher standard.
He was sensational last season and early this season. He is obviously good enough for the Championship.
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No unfair treatment from me. Only decent footballer we have in a different class to Fosu, Foster-Caskey and the rest. If he does go that will be the end of this season. His form is being dragged down by playing with some who don’t put in the shift he puts in.0
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Please don't go Ricky! I love You!
Having said that wouldn't blame him in the slightest for leaving.
I just hope that we manage to hold on to enough of the core of the squad till the day Roland is gone. Otherswise itll take some time ornserious money to get promotion.0 -
I think this is the first time I agree with you!WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Amazing people refer to Robinson as "Gobbinson". In the middle of the shit storm Robinson has been honest with fans providing the answers to the questions put to him and in this current climate I would wonder how many other managers would be as honest and open giving the fans the answers that they would like to know rather than side stepping them.LargeAddick said:“But what I won’t do is sell the player just for money. I’m sticking to my guns on that. I’d need a replacement immediately and then we’ll want to use the money to strengthen the squad.
“That’s my whole crux of the conversation and I need to be trusted with that. If I’m not trusted then I’m not the person for the job".
this could get interesting. If Ricky goes and no replacement comes in then I expect Gobbinson to walk. He won't though.
Robinson as a manager and as a man has earnt my respect more so during this period and certainly spent deserved to be called out just because he is the manager of the owner that is disliked.1 -
Holmes was superb when he came back from injury last season and started this season in the same vein . Hasn't delivered in the last month or so but the effort is still there . Every player goes through the occasional bad patch . Would hate to see him leave .3
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I think to an extent he has been "sussed" by opposition teams. He's still trying, but they know how to defend against him better, not helped by the lack of threat elsewhere with Fosu injured.JamesSeed said:Ricky has had the benefit of scoring some headline goals; 'Worldies'. Now there's a fair amount of luck in smashing those in from 35 yards as any footballer will admit. Take away those goals and what have you got? Yes, he can get his head down and bomb down the wing, and cross the ball. And he does give 100%. In fact he can shoot given the chance.
But to me he's a little bit of a one trick pony. Do you ever see him put his foot on the ball, look up and play a killer pass? Not often. He hardly ever even dummies a cross so he can cut back inside. He's just a bit predictable, and the opposition has sussed him out, which has affected both Ricky and the side's fortunes.
Yes, he's one of our better players, but let's not kid ourselves that he's a premier league player, or even close to one. He probably deserves a chance to show what he can do in the Cchampionship, and if he makes it, with or without us, good luck to him.
[btw I don't think he can be sold while the club is 'under offer'.]
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I’ve been reluctant to open this thread but finally succumbed. I’ll be gutted if Holmes is sold but not surprised. Over the years it’s always been the case but this one seems to hurt because the fee is likely to be paltry in football terms and it shows us fans exactly where we stand. Rock bottom. I think under normal circumstances this might have been the straw that broke my camels back. After 57 years of support the club I know and love is unrecognisable and I’m falling out of love with football in general.
The one glimmer of hope for poor old slogs like me is the that the takeover turns things around. I pray that it does because I’m certain that my commitment is on an edge.6 -
Pretty sure this identical thread happened with JBG who "in retrospect" (aka when he's leaving) was "inconsistent, not that far above this level" etc. It is as silly now as it was then Holmes would be a good signing for anyone in the Championship and we'll miss him massively as that spark. You don't find more than a handful of players at this level who can pull of the magic he can.
Obviously can't blame him in the slightest for wanting to go, especially at his age.2 -
So you now believe what he said in the car park to a few fans before the Oldham game to be true now?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Amazing people refer to Robinson as "Gobbinson". In the middle of the shit storm Robinson has been honest with fans providing the answers to the questions put to him and in this current climate I would wonder how many other managers would be as honest and open giving the fans the answers that they would like to know rather than side stepping them.LargeAddick said:“But what I won’t do is sell the player just for money. I’m sticking to my guns on that. I’d need a replacement immediately and then we’ll want to use the money to strengthen the squad.
“That’s my whole crux of the conversation and I need to be trusted with that. If I’m not trusted then I’m not the person for the job".
this could get interesting. If Ricky goes and no replacement comes in then I expect Gobbinson to walk. He won't though.
Robinson as a manager and as a man has earnt my respect more so during this period and certainly spent deserved to be called out just because he is the manager of the owner that is disliked.4 -
I want to clarify that just because I said that he had hit a dip in form doesn't mean I think he's shit now, either because he's had a dip in form or because he's leaving us. I've never rated him quite as highly as some, but on his day he's an excellent player at this level. Incredibly dangerous, can beat a man, and can produce moments of magic from nothing. Replacing him would be incredibly difficult if not impossible.2
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Bit disappointed that Ricky’s undoubted ability is getting so much stick in this thread, in my opinion the most exciting & likeable Charlton player since Yann.
I like to see players run with the ball and attack. He constantly gets us 10 yards up the pitch, his form has dipped but he’s still capable to score a screamer at any time.8 -
It’s because
“Hey Ricky your so fine , your so fine you blow my mind , hey Ricky , hey Ricky.......”
didn’t take off
An exciting player who has gone off the boil , far too good for our joke of a club
Fuck off Roland2 -
Disagree.ricky_otto said:
I’d rather join ITTV than go there.eaststandmike said:
When I read the title I thought you were going off to join Holmesdale.netricky_otto said:
He’s been shit of late, but he the only one who looks to have a bit of quality and can magic something up.tgarrat1 said:Swap him for Carruthers, apart from scoring the odd screamer he does very little! Runs down blind alleys, and gives the ball away constantly
If he leaves I don’t blame him. And indeed anybody else who wants to go. Charlton are a particularly good place to be at the moment are they?
At least Holmesdale.net have a reason to dislike CHARLTON fans.5 -
No because the players he has mentioned in interviews aren’t those in the car park which tends to back this up.shirty5 said:
So you now believe what he said in the car park to a few fans before the Oldham game to be true now?WhenIwasLittleBoy said:
Amazing people refer to Robinson as "Gobbinson". In the middle of the shit storm Robinson has been honest with fans providing the answers to the questions put to him and in this current climate I would wonder how many other managers would be as honest and open giving the fans the answers that they would like to know rather than side stepping them.LargeAddick said:“But what I won’t do is sell the player just for money. I’m sticking to my guns on that. I’d need a replacement immediately and then we’ll want to use the money to strengthen the squad.
“That’s my whole crux of the conversation and I need to be trusted with that. If I’m not trusted then I’m not the person for the job".
this could get interesting. If Ricky goes and no replacement comes in then I expect Gobbinson to walk. He won't though.
Robinson as a manager and as a man has earnt my respect more so during this period and certainly spent deserved to be called out just because he is the manager of the owner that is disliked.0 -
Disagree that he's a different class or he would have left in summer. He's a decent league 1 winger. That's it.
Fosu is easily as good a goalscorer, just needs to add some assists. (different type of goalscorer too obviously)0 -
RICKEEEEEEY!!! Don't do it, he ain't worth it!4
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He's very good player at this level, works hard and is more consistent than a lot of wingers. He'd be hard to replace at any time, never mind while we're not able to sign players. Would have been ahead of both Wagstaff and Green had he been part of the 11/12 squad.
He has weaknesses but that's why he's never played above this league.
At Championship level I wouldn't see him being more than a squad player for most clubs.
If he and others are leaving I'm just glad we've already got 40 points.7 -
I feel sorry for Robinson, that c*nt Dushitalet has left him with sweet f all to work with, and has also left him to answer to fans on subjects he is not qualified to speak about and has no knowledge of!
Considering the state of our squad I am amazed we are in the play off hunt still, we don't really have any striking options. Magennis has 5 goals this season, that is fucking pathetic, and the only issue I have with KR is that he hasn't given one of the youngsters a chance as they can't possibly do any worse than him! He's been hampered by injuries and then forced to rush players back which has then resulted in them being forced out for longer!
Cannot wait till that old, scaly c*nt will do one!4 -
Massively weak in the CF position, and badly affected by injuries - is that bad luck or bad management? - but I doubt Shrewsbury would think our squad was weak elsewhere.tgarrat1 said:I feel sorry for Robinson, that c*nt Dushitalet has left him with sweet f all to work with, and has also left him to answer to fans on subjects he is not qualified to speak about and has no knowledge of!
Considering the state of our squad I am amazed we are in the play off hunt still, we don't really have any striking options. Magennis has 5 goals this season, that is fucking pathetic, and the only issue I have with KR is that he hasn't given one of the youngsters a chance as they can't possibly do any worse than him! He's been hampered by injuries and then forced to rush players back which has then resulted in them being forced out for longer!
Cannot wait till that old, scaly c*nt will do one!1 -
Good point.ElfsborgAddick said:
Disagree.ricky_otto said:
I’d rather join ITTV than go there.eaststandmike said:
When I read the title I thought you were going off to join Holmesdale.netricky_otto said:
He’s been shit of late, but he the only one who looks to have a bit of quality and can magic something up.tgarrat1 said:Swap him for Carruthers, apart from scoring the odd screamer he does very little! Runs down blind alleys, and gives the ball away constantly
If he leaves I don’t blame him. And indeed anybody else who wants to go. Charlton are a particularly good place to be at the moment are they?
At least Holmesdale.net have a reason to dislike CHARLTON fans.0 -
He delights and frustrates in equal measure. When in the mood he's great, but sometimes tries to do too much and beat everyone , when a pass would be the simpler/better option. The other times his delivery is utter crap and he runs down a blind alley.0
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Ricky don't lose that number. For all you Steely Dan fans.3
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they don't care about us, they only hate BrightonElfsborgAddick said:
Disagree.ricky_otto said:
I’d rather join ITTV than go there.eaststandmike said:
When I read the title I thought you were going off to join Holmesdale.netricky_otto said:
He’s been shit of late, but he the only one who looks to have a bit of quality and can magic something up.tgarrat1 said:Swap him for Carruthers, apart from scoring the odd screamer he does very little! Runs down blind alleys, and gives the ball away constantly
If he leaves I don’t blame him. And indeed anybody else who wants to go. Charlton are a particularly good place to be at the moment are they?
At least Holmesdale.net have a reason to dislike CHARLTON fans.0 -
Those robbo comments are really interesting. I hope he dogs his heels in and rocky stays. Go on robbo. And come on new owners SAVE US1
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I love the "If he don't wanna be here then F-off" comments. I doubt any of the players want to be here right now, should we let them all F-off?1
