The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

RM just wants this thread to hit 2 million views.

Henry Irving said:

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/

"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.

The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.

Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.

The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.

Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

So you're saying the club will definitely be in new hands by the 23rd February.

I would say the hiring of Karel Fraeye to be our manager is one of the worst footballing decisions I have ever seen made by a club.

In a pure footballing sense, and not how the club is run behind the scenes, there cannot be much worse than that?

JamesSeed said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.

What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.

Ok 4000 unread posts on here for me, it’s too time consuming to read them all, but still not much is happening?

Redrobo said:

Henry Irving said:

https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/

"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.

The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.

Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.

The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.

Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

"Could be"

"Timescales could shift"

So he was just chatting with staff and they discussed the sale. Nothing new and the wait goes on.

Not really. He addressed staff ahead of the workshop to say he expects the sale to go through by end February, and that a price agreement is close. The staff aren't oblivious, they all know what he had said to Trust and this wasn't just reiterating that.

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.

Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?

As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.

Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?

As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.

Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.

@Valley11 and @RedChaser don't make me bang your heads together!

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.

Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?

As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.

Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.

Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshouses

Dazzler21 said:

@Valley11 and @RedChaser don't make me bang your heads together!

It's ok Daz no need to get physical, I'm out

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Redhenry said:

i have been told it will happen at the end of Feb

Great stuff Redhenry but could you ask them to just hold on for a bit longer, (say 2 weeks), only i’ve got my eye on that prediction date book

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.

Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?

As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.

Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.

Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshouses

No....no I didn't.
Check back sugar tits.

Valley11 said:

JamesSeed said:

Valley11 said:

RedChaser said:

Valley11 said:

No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.

Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.

Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.

Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.

It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.
So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.

What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.

Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.

All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.

Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.