The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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You don't know anything. If you did you'd have entered the prediction competition ;-)DOUCHER said:I may be wrong - my biographers on here may know better - but I think it was when the word imminent was added that I said if something was happening, it's not now - my second isg post. Anyway, let's hope it happens in February - my guess as I stated was once division next season known but the sooner it happens the better
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So he was just chatting with staff and they discussed the sale. Nothing new and the wait goes on.Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/
"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.
The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.
Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.
The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.
Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.
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RM just wants this thread to hit 2 million views.8
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So you're saying the club will definitely be in new hands by the 23rd February.Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/
"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.
The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.
Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.
The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.
Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.
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Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
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I would say the hiring of Karel Fraeye to be our manager is one of the worst footballing decisions I have ever seen made by a club.
In a pure footballing sense, and not how the club is run behind the scenes, there cannot be much worse than that?7 -
Henry Irving said:
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/
"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.
The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.
Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.
The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.
Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.
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What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.JamesSeed said:
It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.2 -
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So you're saying the club will definitely be in new hands by the 23rd February.Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/
"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.
The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.
Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.
The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.
Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.
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Ok 4000 unread posts on here for me, it’s too time consuming to read them all, but still not much is happening?1
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And yet it still won't get a promote ; - (Dannoo_86 said:RM just wants this thread to hit 2 million views.
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Not really. He addressed staff ahead of the workshop to say he expects the sale to go through by end February, and that a price agreement is close. The staff aren't oblivious, they all know what he had said to Trust and this wasn't just reiterating that.Redrobo said:
So he was just chatting with staff and they discussed the sale. Nothing new and the wait goes on.Henry Irving said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-takeover-deal-on-course-for-february-completion/
"Richard Murray has told some of Charlton Athletic’s staff that the club could be in new hands by the end of February.
The Addicks have been up for sale for some time with owner Roland Duchatelet publicly confirming at the end of last year that he was in talks with interested buyers.
Murray took the opportunity to address staff at the club’s Sparrows Lane training ground earlier this week when an IT workshop was being conducted.
The Charlton director – and former chairman during their Premier League heyday – did point out that timescales could shift.
Murray met with Charlton Athletic Supporters’ Trust recently and revealed a number of consortia had carried out due diligence.
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As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
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i have been told it will happen at the end of Feb51
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Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
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@Valley11 and @RedChaser don't make me bang your heads together!3
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Well a brief summery would be RD wants £50m, however all the buyers only want to pay half of that although there is a German Horse who goes by the name of DD, with a Scottish jockey on his back known as Muir who are interested in us.Mendonca In Asdas said:Ok 4000 unread posts on here for me, it’s too time consuming to read them all, but still not much is happening?
There are some Aussies lurking as well who like to recite poetry who maybe prepared to offer a bit more.
Richard Murray let it slip at Sparrows Lane this week that the club is for sale and the paramedics are still on the scene treating those in shock as they knew nothing about it.3 - Sponsored links:
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Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshousesValley11 said:
Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
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German horse you say, unless it’s a tip from Peanuts Malloy, I’m not buying it!3
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It's ok Daz no need to get physical, I'm outDazzler21 said:@Valley11 and @RedChaser don't make me bang your heads together!
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No....no I didn't.RedChaser said:
Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshousesValley11 said:
Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
Check back sugar tits.
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Fine deal with this yourselves.Valley11 said:
No....no I didn't.RedChaser said:
Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshousesValley11 said:
Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
Check back sugar tits.4 -
Valley11 said:
No....no I didn't.RedChaser said:
Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshousesValley11 said:
Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
Check back sugar tits.8 -
HahaRedChaser said:Valley11 said:
No....no I didn't.RedChaser said:
Ah but you made assumptions from what I wrote and drew the wrong conclusions, people in glasshousesValley11 said:
Haha....ok. Just as long as you learn to read then write a response that's relevant to what I said.RedChaser said:
As you asked so nicely of course we can, just try not to be so condescending next time.Valley11 said:
Oh dear.....I'm perfectly calm.RedChaser said:
Calm down, calm down I haven't chosen to ignore anything but neither am I going to base the future on the handful of zealots (I was merely referring back to your examples of the Oystens and Orient) that have ruined football clubs in the past. Especially compared to the hundreds of owners whose intentions have been honourable and I did say anything else is hypothetical ie we don't know. I'll deal with with any negativities from a new ownership as and when but for now I'm not going to let anyone piss on my Moët.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
But one more time, just for the record and to get this back on point - my comments were about a post that stated 'no owner can be as bad as RD'. Historically owners have been and there's no guarantee the new lot will be better. That does not mean I think Roland has been good, decent, average. He's been disastrous.
I'm not a Roland apologist. I despise the man for everything he's done to our club.
Can we give this a rest now?
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Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.Valley11 said:
What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.JamesSeed said:
It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.
Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.3 -
He made a valid point @JamesSeed and I agreed with him.JamesSeed said:
Woah, over-reaction time. I wasn't particularly referring to you, I was just commenting on the thread. A thread which I've only scanned.Valley11 said:
What are you on about? I never quantified anything about Roland's reign or said I'd been 'swayed'. I merely pointed out that we cannot say with any certainty that the new lot will be better than RD, in response to someone who'd posted no owner can be as bad as RD. Clearly they could.JamesSeed said:
It's easy to be swayed by the relatively smooth running of the club (i.e. Robinson's freedom from interference, no network nonsense etc) over the last six months or so. But we were a club for sale once the owner had given up running things his way, so those six months weren't representative of what Roland wanted to do with Charlton.Valley11 said:RedChaser said:
Depends how you interpret 'no owner' I'd take that to mean no new owner of us because I wouldn't think for one minute the Oystons or the Orient destroyer would now want to get involved with us or come to that would be allowed to. Anything else is purely hypothetical.Valley11 said:No one said it’s not a gamble worth taking or that RD was that bad. The point was made that no owner could be as bad as RD.
I disagree with that and the O’s and Blackpool owners would suggest I’m right.
Eh? Sorry that doesn’t make sense. The original statement was:
No owner can be as bad as RD.
Taking your interpretation: Do you really think no new owner can be as bad? That history shows only the two you mention -Becchetti and the Oystons - are as bad as RD?
If you do then you’ve chosen to ignore Cellino (Leeds), SISU Capital (Coventry), Chanrai (Portsmouth), the Venkys (Blackburn) I could go on....
Look, the new lot will hopefully be brilliant and we’ll march to the Premier League and Champions League titles within five years.
But for now you can’t say they won’t be as bad as (or, god forbid, worse than) RD. We simply don’t know.
So yes, plenty of owners are worse than the 'ownership' over the last six months. Few are worse than what went before.
All I was saying was that there may be some who think new owners might be worse than RD based partly on the way things have been over the last six months, an atypical period in our recent history when a more normal system was in place i.e. no network/Driesen, not interfence
Obviously when RD's way of running things was in full sway it's hard to imagine anything being worse. For I time I was thinking 'this isn't too bad', when we put together that decent run and we were second (or third was it?) in the league. Of course RD never intended us to run in an ordinary was so was plotting his way out.
I wasn't having a go at you, and I agree with your point that new owners could be worse than RD, they could even be the worst owners in football history for all we know. So don't take it all so personally.
Good to see @Henry Irving getting stuck in with the 'like' though.
No one was getting stuck in.3