Michał Żyro signs on Loan from Wolves

He's been with us for what, five games? And he's come off the bench in two? These are just top of my head numbers.

I agree that bringing him on for like two minutes against Shrews was silly, but beyond that, we've been ahead going in to the end of games so he's not really what's been required. And I'm pretty sure Robinson came out and said he wasn't fit enough to start.

I think right now it's much ado about nothing. There is still a lot of season to go, and a few weeks in which we'll be playing Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday. But as things stand, Josh is scoring again, and our biggest problem has been seeing out games rather than chasing them (Shrews aside obviously), and that's not really his area of expertise.

StigThundercock said:

ForeverAddickted said:

As mentioned on the U23 thread... With Jackson / Pearce / Ajose playing - No further players over 23 could have been involved last night.

I understand both Pearce and Ajose playing to work on their fitness after injury, but why not Zyro ahead of Jacko?

ROFL
have you seen him play?
there's no pill for skill
looks like Astrit Ajdarevic's overweight younger brother but with 10%max of AA's talent.

Less worthy of a tune up in the U23's than Jacko? Yep, all day long. Lee Bowyer would be better use of an overage player in the U23's

Do you like...anything?

JamesSeed said:

SDAddick said:

StigThundercock said:

ForeverAddickted said:

As mentioned on the U23 thread... With Jackson / Pearce / Ajose playing - No further players over 23 could have been involved last night.

I understand both Pearce and Ajose playing to work on their fitness after injury, but why not Zyro ahead of Jacko?

ROFL
have you seen him play?
there's no pill for skill
looks like Astrit Ajdarevic's overweight younger brother but with 10%max of AA's talent.

Less worthy of a tune up in the U23's than Jacko? Yep, all day long. Lee Bowyer would be better use of an overage player in the U23's

Do you like...anything?

We'd miss him if he quit.

Yep

sillav nitram said:

SDAddick said:

He's been with us for what, five games? And he's come off the bench in two? These are just top of my head numbers.

I agree that bringing him on for like two minutes against Shrews was silly, but beyond that, we've been ahead going in to the end of games so he's not really what's been required.And I'm pretty sure Robinson came out and said he wasn't fit enough to start.

I think right now it's much ado about nothing. There is still a lot of season to go, and a few weeks in which we'll be playing Saturday-Tuesday-Saturday. But as things stand, Josh is scoring again, and our biggest problem has been seeing out games rather than chasing them (Shrews aside obviously), and that's not really his area of expertise.

Not sure I agree with that, we’ve only ever been 1 goal ahead in most games and then ultimately lost the lead, so maybe another striker is what’s needed?

Not unfair. Robinson brought on Aribo against Oxford and then Lennon against Doncaster and it felt like he kind of over learned his lesson from one game to the next.

If we were to go one up this weekend I would say an attacking change would be good because we've shown ourselves poor at holding leads. But up until now, I dunno it's hard to say. I definitely wouldn't have taken DaSilva off against Donny but each of them had a tactical reasoning behind it.

Scoham said:

http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/16115571.charlton-dad-to-be-michal-zyro-highlights-one-key-change-under-lee-bowyer/

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Michal Zyro believes new caretaker boss Lee Bowyer has changed Charlton’s mentality.

Bowyer, who replaced former Valley boss Karl Robinson on Thursday, won his first game in charge with a 2-0 victory over promotion rivals Plymouth.

News Shopper understands some Addicks players were unhappy with Robinson’s demeanour in the latter stages of his reign.

And Zyro, who scored his second goal for the club on Saturday, praised Bowyer’s instant impact.

He told News Shopper: “We changed our tactics [under Bowyer] for the Plymouth game - we went to a 4-4-2 formation.

“Our preparation about our opponent was the same but the day before the game we worked on our shape, how we have to play and that’s it.

“We changed our mentality a little bit and I felt we were fighting all the time against Plymouth.

“Every player gave 100 per cent and finally we scored two goals. We need to keep [more] clean sheets and we’ll be all good.

MORE: Bowyer explains absence of Charlton captain in Plymouth victory​

“Sometimes you need to change the formation. We were 2-0 up and changed to 4-5-1.

“It depends on the opponent and if the players are performing. It’s the gaffer’s decision and it worked.”

Zyro headed in Joe Aribo’s cross to double Charlton’s advantage in the 17th minute. The 25-year-old helped move the Addicks to within two points of the play-offs.

He celebrated by putting the ball under his shirt, which suggested a baby is on the way.

Zyro has struggled for first-team minutes since joining on loan from Wolves in January, but impressed with new strike partner Nicky Ajose against Plymouth.

The Poland forward added: “Our baby is due in the middle of June.

“It’s the first time I’ve done that celebration. I wanted to do it in a home game because my wife is always in the stands watching. It was really nice to have the chance to do it.

“Nicky and I started together for the first time. Mentally, we are hungry about playing and enjoying football.

“Every player wants to play - I signed on loan to play games. I didn't expect to play for 90 minutes from the first game because I didn't play for a long time before [due to a serious knee injury].

“So I just expected a chance for 20 or 30 minutes. Now it’s good. It’s my second Charlton goal and I just need to keep going and keep my health and be ready for Northampton on Friday.”

StigThundercock said:

ForeverAddickted said:

As mentioned on the U23 thread... With Jackson / Pearce / Ajose playing - No further players over 23 could have been involved last night.

I understand both Pearce and Ajose playing to work on their fitness after injury, but why not Zyro ahead of Jacko?

ROFL
have you seen him play?
there's no pill for skill
looks like Astrit Ajdarevic's overweight younger brother but with 10%max of AA's talent.

Less worthy of a tune up in the U23's than Jacko? Yep, all day long. Lee Bowyer would be better use of an overage player in the U23's

Good call..

Zyro has got a good touch and can hold it up or bring other players into the game. On Saturday he's always seemed to have players close to him, I assume these were the managers tactics playing a more attacking formation.

Bit unfair on Magennis as most of the season he's been the only man up front and no one gets near him to get on his flicks etc, again that was down to the managers tactics playing a more defensive formation.

iaitch said:

Zyro has got a good touch and can hold it up or bring other players into the game. On Saturday he's always seemed to have players close to him, I assume these were the managers tactics playing a more attacking formation.

Bit unfair on Magennis as most of the season he's been the only man up front and no one gets near him to get on his flicks etc, again that was down to the managers tactics playing a more defensive formation.

I am prepared to give Magennis the benefit of the doubt and reassess him in a 2, but i suspect i will think the same - not good enough. I will be livid if he replaces Zyro or Ajose for the upcoming game though neither deserve to lose their place

I'd like to see Mavididi alongside Zyro once he's fit.

Oggy Red said:

thenewbie said:

Been a long time since Magennis was part of a team that played as well as the one on Saturday. Different tactics, different mentality and much better team work - he would probably look a much better player if he had that kind of support

He did in our 3-1 win at home to Walsall.

It was changed to 4-4-2 with 30 minutes left - Magennis was suddenly effective with Mavididi playing off him.
Despite what his detractors say, I feel we'll see more to his game with different tactics and team mentality.

Exactly. Not that Magennis hasn't been below par but even Kermorgant would have struggled left alone and up front abandoned by the entire midfield.

If Ajose continues as he did Vs Plymouth, he can stay in the 2 for now.

Magennis seems like the kind of no nonsense character who might not have entirely seen eye to eye with Robinson so who knows if the mere fact KR has gone will revitalize Big Mag somewhat. Mag has his limitations but I maintain most strikers would struggle to score goals with the kind of slow, predictable "service" he had to work with.

Zyro looks an upgrade right now, but we have all seen Mag play better than he has in recent weeks and he offers a different option for whoever ends up in charge. He very much still has a role to play in our season.

Exiled_Addick said:

Magennis seems like the kind of no nonsense character who might not have entirely seen eye to eye with Robinson so who knows if the mere fact KR has gone will revitalize Big Mag somewhat. Mag has his limitations but I maintain most strikers would struggle to score goals with the kind of slow, predictable "service" he had to work with.

Zyro looks an upgrade right now, but we have all seen Mag play better than he has in recent weeks and he offers a different option for whoever ends up in charge. He very much still has a role to play in our season.

Magennis made an excellent centre back at the close of today’s game!