The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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I've always thought we had a chance, even under Tarbuck.Pelling1993 said:
Even as a pessimist we have move than a slim chance, if we win our game in hand we are in the playoffs and the teams above us aren't in great formJon_CAFC_ said:
Of course we won’t hear more by then,Manicmania said:Whilst I echo the sentiments of others above regarding protests, I would hope that some kind of symbolic gesture to show that we have not changed our stance could be made - press release in Belgian media/something in his hometown akin to the billboard - doesn't necessarily need to be in the ground where it could impact the team does it? (this is based on the assumption we hear no more regarding the takeover by then)
Murray’s quotes were largely prompted by cards threat of protest. We’ve a slim chance of making the playoffs, despite a dead cat bounce.
We’re now adopting a wait and see approach, it’s exactly what they want don’t rock the boat on the off chance of a slither of hope of 6th place - keep us all quiet
Now there has been a change of manager that chance has grown considerably.
Still have to win 6 or 7 games to make the play-offs and that won't be easy but we have Konsa, Magennis and Mavididi back in the squad which is some bench.
Facts prove that protests DON'T negatively affect the team and neither does singing "we want Roland out" between backing the players and manager.
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Nine games left. Win all twelve of them and we're up!28
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I’m up for another protest in Belgium if things don’t change before the end of the season.
Zero point protesting at the Valley - there’s no one there we want to protest against!19 -
Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?2 -
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?
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Am I the only one who has entered the surreal zone regarding the takeover, where simultaneously we have been taken over, we are in the process of being taken over, we might be taken over, we will never be taken over.
All conditions hold true with almost equal sway all at the same time, yet nothing actually does exist and everything and all of you are figments of my imagination?
Might just be me mind.12 -
All well and good chanting that, but last time I was at the ground and heard one of those chants it was interrupted by some people giving dogs abuse to our own player for misplacing a pass!Dazzler21 said:Chants of support the team not the regime would offer that wouldn't they?
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Agreed. Protests in and around The Valley have been very useful in getting wider publicity for our plight from the UK press and TV. RD was only ever uncomfortable (and responded as such) when the protests were taken to Belgium.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?5 -
please see my previous comment - I am of the belief we should focus on Belgium. Also I did qualify my point by saying I was playing devils advocate - I don't know the right course of action at all - but I trust the good folks of CARD to be having these kind of discussions and will come to a conclusion that we can all get behind.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?4 -
We are the Schrödinger's cat of the footballing world.seth plum said:Am I the only one who has entered the surreal zone regarding the takeover, where simultaneously we have been taken over, we are in the process of being taken over, we might be taken over, we will never be taken over.
All conditions hold true with almost equal sway all at the same time, yet nothing actually does exist and everything and all of you are figments of my imagination?
Might just be me mind.
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Protesting at The Valley at the moment is pointless. I really don't see what CARD are hoping to achieve by organising it.
The ONLY place it really matters and the old scroat pays any attention to it is in Belgium.8 -
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This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.6 -
back to the pot noodle talk then @AFKABartram ...?
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We have had 2 million views - I owe somebody a mug - any way of identifying who it is?1
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Haven't had time to read all of this post so apologies if any seeming regurgitation.
A completely new 'source' advised me yesterday that the new chairman is Paul Elliot but waiting on the fit and proper person test before announcing. How true this is I don't know and I know this isn't the first time its been mentioned on here. The guy who told me is friends with Paul Elliot and is involved with another big London football club so its highly possible its true but for all I know, he's just getting second hand rumours from here or wherever.
No further info from any of my 'cast iron' sources other than RD will be selling very soon as currently funding the club £1 million a month- again, nothing new in that although kind of puts the done deal view slightly in doubt.
Just passing info on - as always.
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Just not the case.bobmunro said:
Agreed. Protests in and around The Valley have been very useful in getting wider publicity for our plight from the UK press and TV. RD was only ever uncomfortable (and responded as such) when the protests were taken to Belgium.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?
The {...} article on the website came immediately after the Middlesboro protests. he was clearly reacting to those protests and he said as such.
There were also protests in Belgium that weekend but the publicity hit him and caused him to react.
Meire was in tears as even she knew it was the wrong thing to do and Mel Baroni said she'd resign if it was published but as it was Duchatelet's wish it had to be published.
The protests in England impacted on Duchatelet.27 -
Richard MurrayMuttleyCAFC said:We have had 2 million views - I owe somebody a mug - any way of identifying who it is?
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I would support a resumption of protests at the Blackburn game if there is no movement on Duchatelet selling by then, I dont think protesting monday, given last weeks developments is either practical or desirable.
If and when the protests do resume then I would support them both home and abroad.
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I was just thinking exactly the same thingStig said:
We are the Schrödinger's cat of the footballing world.seth plum said:Am I the only one who has entered the surreal zone regarding the takeover, where simultaneously we have been taken over, we are in the process of being taken over, we might be taken over, we will never be taken over.
All conditions hold true with almost equal sway all at the same time, yet nothing actually does exist and everything and all of you are figments of my imagination?
Might just be me mind.
The takeover is both dead and alive in the box and RD is in a state of quantum fux
He cannot decide if he's a particle or a wave (goodbye)6 -
Disagree.AFKABartram said:This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.
This has everything to do with the sale of the Club and the fans intent to encourage the owner to make it happen sooner rather than later.
Or is our only outlet to vent our frustrations about the ownership on a message board?1 -
So is it not happening now ? ( again )1
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Nope, but we have a crumb of comfort of the slim chance of sixth place to console ourselves with.Bedsaddick said:So is it not happening now ? ( again )
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The sale, the protest or are you talking about something private?Bedsaddick said:So is it not happening now ? ( again )
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not sure what specific point you disagree with mateAddickted said:
Disagree.AFKABartram said:This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.
This has everything to do with the sale of the Club and the fans intent to encourage the owner to make it happen sooner rather than later.
Or is our only outlet to vent our frustrations about the ownership on a message board?
On your last sentence, no of course not. But whether its on a message board, at The Valley or in Belgium, at this stage of the process, that's all it is imo, venting frustration. May have some publicity benefit if successful, but can't really see anything now having an influencing benefit and also runs the risk of further division as there are those who will look for any form of protest to capitalise and drive a wedge between supporters.
That may change to me if come the end of the season there has still been no movement (which I suspect), and it appears that interested parties have withdrawn (which I fear). But we are effectively stuck in a no mans land at the moment and imo better efforts would be directed on just seeing if the team can get some momentum over the next couple of games. Just my view
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The saleStig said:
The sale, the protest or are you talking about something private?Bedsaddick said:So is it not happening now ? ( again )
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Turn Monday’s protest into a celebration. Black n white balloons in their thousands with a few red ones thrown in plus streamers. Inflatable kangaroos and camels, German horses and whatnots bouncing around the ground.
“We’ve got our Charlton back (almost)”1 -
So as somebody that has just spent the morning doing anatomy and cpr, why has all the joy turned to unrest?0
