The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Because I made a prickish comment about protests on Monday, generally nobody has a clue what’s going on and some have more patience than others, mine is personally shotcfgs said:So as somebody that has just spent the morning doing anatomy and cpr, why has all the joy turned to unrest?
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One thing we could do is make Monday a Roland is leaving party whether he has left or not by then. Shouldn't dim the atmosphere as it would be a celebration but it would show how much we hate him.0
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Did someone say vol-au-vent?Addickted said:
Disagree.AFKABartram said:This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.
This has everything to do with the sale of the Club and the fans intent to encourage the owner to make it happen sooner rather than later.
Or is our only outlet to vent our frustrations about the ownership on a message board?
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I'm not.AFKABartram said:
not sure what specific point you disagree with mateAddickted said:
Disagree.AFKABartram said:This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.
This has everything to do with the sale of the Club and the fans intent to encourage the owner to make it happen sooner rather than later.
Or is our only outlet to vent our frustrations about the ownership on a message board?
On your last sentence, no of course not. But whether its on a message board, at The Valley or in Belgium, at this stage of the process, that's all it is imo, venting frustration. May have some publicity benefit if successful, but can't really see anything now having an influencing benefit and also runs the risk of further division as there are those who will look for any form of protest to capitalise and drive a wedge between supporters.
That may change to me if come the end of the season there has still been no movement (which I suspect), and it appears that interested parties have withdrawn (which I fear). But we are effectively stuck in a no mans land at the moment and imo better efforts would be directed on just seeing if the team can get some momentum over the next couple of games. Just my view
I fear I may has misinterpreted your original post.
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Agreed, please get this back on topic.AFKABartram said:This all seems a bit of an unnecessary debate.
I've no idea what protest CARD had planned for next Monday, but its clear that its either not going to happen (as one of their organisers has basically stated on the previous page), or its not a protest that would need numbers as they can patently see that the widespread support for it just isn't there.
You could argue back and forth on whether there was any value in announcing a return to protesting in the first place, but this isn't really at this point in time any benefit in getting tied up with periphery side issues.
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Form is temporary.Pelling1993 said:
Even as a pessimist we have move than a slim chance, if we win our game in hand we are in the playoffs and the teams above us aren't in great formJon_CAFC_ said:
Of course we won’t hear more by then,Manicmania said:Whilst I echo the sentiments of others above regarding protests, I would hope that some kind of symbolic gesture to show that we have not changed our stance could be made - press release in Belgian media/something in his hometown akin to the billboard - doesn't necessarily need to be in the ground where it could impact the team does it? (this is based on the assumption we hear no more regarding the takeover by then)
Murray’s quotes were largely prompted by cards threat of protest. We’ve a slim chance of making the playoffs, despite a dead cat bounce.
We’re now adopting a wait and see approach, it’s exactly what they want don’t rock the boat on the off chance of a slither of hope of 6th place - keep us all quiet
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Henry Irving said:bobmunro said:
Agreed. Protests in and around The Valley have been very useful in getting wider publicity for our plight from the UK press and TV. RD was only ever uncomfortable (and responded as such) when the protests were taken to Belgium.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?
Meire was in tears as even she knew it was the wrong thing to do and Mel Baroni said she'd resign if it was published but as it was Duchatelet's wish it had to be published.
hahaha christ I'd forgotten about the whole Mel Baroni episode.0 - Sponsored links:
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Standard.Chrispy51 said:
All well and good chanting that, but last time I was at the ground and heard one of those chants it was interrupted by some people giving dogs abuse to our own player for misplacing a pass!Dazzler21 said:Chants of support the team not the regime would offer that wouldn't they?
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I think Mel is trying to do the same.daveydanger said:Henry Irving said:bobmunro said:
Agreed. Protests in and around The Valley have been very useful in getting wider publicity for our plight from the UK press and TV. RD was only ever uncomfortable (and responded as such) when the protests were taken to Belgium.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?
Meire was in tears as even she knew it was the wrong thing to do and Mel Baroni said she'd resign if it was published but as it was Duchatelet's wish it had to be published.
hahaha christ I'd forgotten about the whole Mel Baroni episode.
Fizz Waller, the newly appointed commercial manager who was, like Mel, someone who could see the problems, resigned at the same time.
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It’s not going to happen , is it ...0
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Well? When's press conference?0
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The itk posters have not said it isn't today keeps me hoping - if it isn't please end the misery1
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It’s already been said by a few people that today is looking more unlikely, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, most likely means a (possibly better) offer has come in. A few more weeks of patience and we’ll be there, I don’t get what the rush is about.0
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Agreed.Henry Irving said:
Just not the case.bobmunro said:
Agreed. Protests in and around The Valley have been very useful in getting wider publicity for our plight from the UK press and TV. RD was only ever uncomfortable (and responded as such) when the protests were taken to Belgium.LargeAddick said:
but I don't see how protests in the UK make his life uncomfortable at all. I doubt he now would even be aware they happened.Manicmania said:Playing devils advocate for a second.... does that mean if we lose the next 2/3 games protests then come back on the agenda...? I think it's important we don't lose sight of what the protests are trying to achieve - making Roland's life uncomfortable.
Surely if the players think we will only protest when they lose that puts MORE pressure on them?
The {...} article on the website came immediately after the Middlesboro protests. he was clearly reacting to those protests and he said as such.
There were also protests in Belgium that weekend but the publicity hit him and caused him to react.
Meire was in tears as even she knew it was the wrong thing to do and Mel Baroni said she'd resign if it was published but as it was Duchatelet's wish it had to be published.
The protests in England impacted on Duchatelet.
I think that it was the protests at the Valley that got to Meire and played a significant part in her resignation. When she went, so too did any lingering interest from the old mad Belgian. That and the worldwide press/media coverage will have hurt him.
But I also think that the protests in Belgium have been invaluable in smacking him (metaphorically) between the eyes.15 -
Or maybe there is the desire to see if it is a better offer. There is a danger attached to this I think as if you mess people about, they can sometimes tell you to go and do one!cafc_harry said:It’s already been said by a few people that today is looking more unlikely, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, most likely means a (possibly better) offer has come in. A few more weeks of patience and we’ll be there, I don’t get what the rush is about.
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There's nothing preventing you from protesting :-)Jon_CAFC_ said:
Because I made a prickish comment about protests on Monday, generally nobody has a clue what’s going on and some have more patience than others, mine is personally shotcfgs said:So as somebody that has just spent the morning doing anatomy and cpr, why has all the joy turned to unrest?
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Because I'm like an 8 year old who keeps finding out that Christmas has been put back a couple more weeks.cafc_harry said:It’s already been said by a few people that today is looking more unlikely, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, most likely means a (possibly better) offer has come in. A few more weeks of patience and we’ll be there, I don’t get what the rush is about.
I told my daughter, who was formerly a season ticket holder, to put Easter Monday in her diary, as it would mark our triumphal return to the Valley. Going from the certainty of 'It's happening on Monday' back to 'a few weeks' is hard to take.5 -
Or seek an alternative Club to purchase.MuttleyCAFC said:
Or maybe there is the desire to see if it is a better offer. There is a danger attached to this I think as if you mess people about, they can sometimes tell you to go and do one!cafc_harry said:It’s already been said by a few people that today is looking more unlikely, doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen, most likely means a (possibly better) offer has come in. A few more weeks of patience and we’ll be there, I don’t get what the rush is about.
One where the owner isn't an awkward and intransigent person to negotiate with.0 -
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I think that was quite a polite way to describe the owner!0
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Sorry, I've obviously missed a post, is the latest that it's all been put back a few weeks?1
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Seemingly. I've been looking for the posts, by those who confidently said Monday, where they say, ' Well I certainly got that wrong!' but their wifi must be down today.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Sorry, I've obviously missed a post, is the latest that it's all been put back a few weeks?
I realise the announcement could now be made, thus making me look like the twat, but I'd take it.6 -
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I keep F5'ing the NewsNow Charlton page but its full of news from plymouth papers....1
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