Seriously, someone points a gun at your head and says "Get this right and you live, get this wrong and you die - will Charlton be promoted?" Would you really say Charlton will get promoted? Of course, I hope we will win, but under those circumstances I would, reluctantly, have to say say - no, as the safer bet.
Seriously, someone points a gun at your head and says "Get this right and you live, get this wrong and you die - will Charlton be promoted?" Would you really say Charlton will get promoted? Of course, I hope we will win, but under those circumstances I would, reluctantly, have to say say - no, as the safer bet.
or is that just because, being a charlton fan, you’re a pessimist. if you were a neutral, seeing we’d won 3 of our last 4 and one of those being a 2-0 win over our semi final opponent, another one being against the team who finished second, would you still say no?
edit: just a question btw, i still would probably say no
I believe we will turn up big time on thursday and will blow shrewsbury away - no particular logic, lets just say its 'gut feeling' - we will do them 3-0 in front of 23,000 - fosu will be back for the final and will score 2 in a 2-0 win against scunthorpe in front of 50,000 charlton fans. COYR!!!!!
I believe we will turn up big time on thursday and will blow shrewsbury away - no particular logic, lets just say its 'gut feeling' - we will do them 3-0 in front of 23,000 - fosu will be back for the final and will score 2 in a 2-0 win against scunthorpe in front of 50,000 charlton fans. COYR!!!!!
Seriously, someone points a gun at your head and says "Get this right and you live, get this wrong and you die - will Charlton be promoted?" Would you really say Charlton will get promoted? Of course, I hope we will win, but under those circumstances I would, reluctantly, have to say say - no, as the safer bet.
Well, yeah, there's a 25% ish chance we will so there's a 75% chance that we won't!
Not really as only have to win 2 games in theory so higher than a 25% chance.
Four teams. One makes it. 1/4 = 25%.
I am putting this in your Christmas stocking this year.
PS- I am just teasing you!
Okay. But I suspect it's not really a one-in-four chance. Take the UEFA Champions League round of 16 as an example. Their stats show that since the concept started in 2002/03, 72% of teams playing at home in the second leg win the tie. I mention this because the tie is seeded with the group stage winners being at home in the second leg.
That's pretty much the situation for our play-offs. The teams finishing 3rd and 4th get to play at home in the second leg. Even though the "away goals count double" thing doesn't apply here, I'd say knowing precisely what you've got to do to win in front of a partisan home crowd brings a significant advantage.
On top of that the teams finishing 3rd and 4th should be better than the teams finishing 5th and 6th. In our case the league table shows that Shrewsbury are significantly better than us: by a hefty 16 points. They've won 4 more games than they've lost or drawn. We've lost or drawn 6 more games than we've won. Their defence is also better than ours, having conceded less than a goal a game all season both home and away. If i was a betting man....
If by some twist of fate we should get past Shrewsbury though, I reckon we'd win at Wembley.
The big difference though is that the teams in knockout European matches are the best teams AND the form teams, whereas in the playoffs the team who were brilliant for 3/4 of the season, then slump at the end will usually lose against the worse team who keep their form throughout the season. Or the team who hit their best form in the last month of the season.
On recent form (which is what counts, not how well a team played from August to March), Shrewsbury are probably the worst team of the 4.
Think we will beat Shrewsbury over two legs as long as we go to their place winning or drawing, they'll have to go for it then and not sit back. Would rather not face Scunthorpe in the final, they looked pretty good on Tuesday and have flair players that can tear a game open (not dissimilar to us). Saying that, we really shouldn't be afraid of anybody, and I would put us as favourites to go up at this moment in time.
Generally speaking the Play-Off games are tight close affairs, with probably not too many goals, don't expect these to be any different. Personally i'd take a win of any sort on Thursday, but it wouldn't surprise me if the tie went to Extra time or even the dreaded Pens. Same for the Wembley final if of course we get there.
Scores in 2016-17 play offs: 0-0, 1-0, 2-3, 0-0, 0-1.
Getting the first goal in any game will be crucial.
Totally agree I feel the first goal will be huge.
Even in Bowyer's 10 games in charge we've scored first on 6 occasions and won the lot. On the 4 occasions the opposition have scored first we've drawn 1 and lost 3. It was the same under Robinson as well and this is why being at home first will make or break the tie for me. Score first and i'm confident we'll win the home leg, go to Shrewsbury with an advantage and I think we have it in us to defend a lead there. We simply have to make home advantage count or it'll be a real mountain to climb going to Shrewsbury with the scores level or worse.
I think we have it in us to do it and go on to win at Wembley too with the sizeable crowd advantage we'd have over Rotherham/Scunthorpe.
I'm sure Shrewsbury will set out to frustrate us at the Valley - we do better against teams trying to beat us. I think the crowd need to be patient as we could win this tie at their place and we don't need to throw it away at ours. An early goal for us will be much appreciated however.
Daft question I'm afraid. The shot that hits the post, the penalty the referee doesn't give, the injuries, the defender slips, many games if played again would finish differently. What we need to think about is how much noise we can make over the games. COYR
Wonder if they've started to practice some penalties
Its probably going to worth pointing out where the penalty spot is to the majority of the squad (whilst keeping Josh locked in the broom cupboard) seeing that we've not really had any in the League this season
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edit: just a question btw, i still would probably say no
Hopefully it's our year.
On recent form (which is what counts, not how well a team played from August to March), Shrewsbury are probably the worst team of the 4.
Rotherham 28.9%
Charlton 26.3%
Scunthorpe 22.4%
Shrewsbury 22.4%
The atmosphere should be 100 times better than the 2-0 home defeat.
At this point, that's like asking How long's a piece of string.
Getting the first goal in any game will be crucial.
Even in Bowyer's 10 games in charge we've scored first on 6 occasions and won the lot. On the 4 occasions the opposition have scored first we've drawn 1 and lost 3. It was the same under Robinson as well and this is why being at home first will make or break the tie for me. Score first and i'm confident we'll win the home leg, go to Shrewsbury with an advantage and I think we have it in us to defend a lead there. We simply have to make home advantage count or it'll be a real mountain to climb going to Shrewsbury with the scores level or worse.
I think we have it in us to do it and go on to win at Wembley too with the sizeable crowd advantage we'd have over Rotherham/Scunthorpe.
I say yes....bloody hope so if I'm travelling 15,000 kms to be at the final!
I haven’t got a Scooby!
But Fosu, who has scored nine goals this season, could be in contention for the first leg of the semi-final on Thursday.
Bowyer said: “Tariqe is back in training with us today. We have to see how he gets on in the next 48 hours in training.
“But he’s done all his rehab now so we’ll be gently introducing him with us and seeing how he reacts to that.
http://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/936834288?-11197:833
Its probably going to worth pointing out where the penalty spot is to the majority of the squad (whilst keeping Josh locked in the broom cupboard) seeing that we've not really had any in the League this season