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  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Davies had no choice as all his "work" from the past few months has just been totally undermined. Can't see many more going just yet.
  • Rob7Lee said:



    The Tories are proving themselves utterly useless over Brexit - they really are a bunch of clueless chancers. 2 years on from the Brexit vote and no agreed plan in place.

    Sadly I'm sure Labour would be equally useless.

    This is the worst most ineffectual set of politicians I can remember in Parliament.

    Here here,

    Don’t worry though, Gove will be the new Brexit secretary :neutral:

    Nobody has a clue what Brexit means which makes the fact we had a referendum on it even more farcical - what exactly were people voting for? If the politicians don't know and can't even agree on a plan then it's beyond ridiculous....

    A country led by morons....

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    Some Brexiters claim to know - including a few on here!
  • Some Brexiters claim to know - including a few on here!

    Nobody knew what they were voting for as it was never clearly explained - two years down the line and nobody is any the wiser.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    They sent us all a leaflet explaing it.
    The problems started when the public voted against the will of the politians.

    All this 'what were we voting for.' nonsense is just a consequence of that.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627

    They sent us all a leaflet explaing it.
    The problems started when the public voted against the will of the politians.

    All this 'what were we voting for.' nonsense is just a consequence of that.

    You really believe that people knew what Brexit was when the evidence is clear that even those whose job it is to know havn’t got a clue.

  • They sent us all a leaflet explaing it.
    The problems started when the public voted against the will of the politians.

    All this 'what were we voting for.' nonsense is just a consequence of that.

    You must be the only person in the country who knew what they were voting for. I've not heard a single politician offer a coherent explanation of what it means.

    The cheerleaders for Brexit - Farage etc - seem the most clueless of the lot.

  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131

    They sent us all a leaflet explaing it.
    The problems started when the public voted against the will of the politians.

    All this 'what were we voting for.' nonsense is just a consequence of that.

    You must be the only person in the country who knew what they were voting for. I've not heard a single politician offer a coherent explanation of what it means.

    The cheerleaders for Brexit - Farage etc - seem the most clueless of the lot.

    You must really struggle at general elections when there is more than one issue.
    Have you considered disenfranchising yourself?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    boris has resigned. General election before christmas incoming.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    ANOTHER ONE, the dominoes are falling:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44770847
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    Should never have been allowed within a hundred miles of the foreign office anyway. Good riddance (for now) to one of the most two faced, two chinned gits in British politics.
  • scruffle
    scruffle Posts: 2,282
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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    England are in a World Cup semi-final. Don't care.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    So Boris and Farage spun a load of crap to get us to vote for Brexit but neither stick around to see it through.

    Brilliant

    If Corbin becomes PM I will just shoot myself
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Swisdom said:

    So Boris and Farage spun a load of crap to get us to vote for Brexit but neither stick around to see it through.

    Brilliant

    If Corbin becomes PM I will just shoot myself

    This is literally the only way this can get worse now.

    Surely.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Corbyn might be worse, but maybe the time has come for him to prove that assertion, or maybe it is best for this 'strong and stable' government to carry on.
    The will of the people might decide.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    edited July 2018
    Johnson favourite to be next PM.

    PM after Theresa May: Johnson 3/1 Gove 4/1 Corbyn 5/1 Javid 6/1 Rees-Mogg 7/1 Hunt 12/1

    Year of next election: 2018 6/4 fav
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070

    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.

    Surely they can't be stupid enough to call a GE?
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,596
    WSS said:

    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.

    Surely they can't be stupid enough to call a GE?
    You wouldn’t have thought so, but nothing would surprise me in politics anymore.

    Still, on the plus side just after the last election I had a bet on 2018 & 2019 for the next one.

    But god help us if we have to choose between Johnson and Corbyn..... surely it hasn’t come to this.
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Let Southgate be next PM
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Rob7Lee said:

    WSS said:

    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.

    Surely they can't be stupid enough to call a GE?
    You wouldn’t have thought so, but nothing would surprise me in politics anymore.

    Still, on the plus side just after the last election I had a bet on 2018 & 2019 for the next one.

    But god help us if we have to choose between Johnson and Corbyn..... surely it hasn’t come to this.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited July 2018
    If they can't get behind May, who can they get behind? Johnson will have supporters but he will also have enemies dependant on what side of the party you sit on.
  • mcgrandall
    mcgrandall Posts: 931
    WSS said:

    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.

    Surely they can't be stupid enough to call a GE?
    They might not have a choice if they lose a confidence vote.
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070

    WSS said:

    If corbyn doesn't win this election or even a coalition or minority, then there's no way in hell he'll ever ever win labour an election. Ever.

    Surely they can't be stupid enough to call a GE?
    They might not have a choice if they lose a confidence vote.
    Ignorant to this, how does one of those come about?
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    edited July 2018
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  • Can't imagine the DUP will be happy with any of the Ultras and their kick the can down the road approach to the border. General Election here we come.
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    edited July 2018

    Can't imagine the DUP will be happy with any of the Ultras and their kick the can down the road approach to the border. General Election here we come.

    Looking at loosing their bribery gravy train too. They won't be happy.
  • mcgrandall
    mcgrandall Posts: 931
    It was the recent parliament act that gave fixed terms to the length of government. If the house votes that it has no confidence in the ability to pass legislation then a general election must be called within 14 days.

    Very unlikely as it would require a number of Tories to vote against the government as it stands. If the party does split due to brexit/leadership contest it becomes much more likely.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Shame about Boris. He was doing a great job... winding everyone up!
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