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Summer 2018 transfer rumours

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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    Middlesbrough also interested in him
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,724
    What is it with us and loaning injury prone players from Arsenal?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    cafc83 said:

    Injury proneness does seem to be one of our must have attributes when looking at players.

    I think its more to do with the fact all other decent players have either already gone elsewhere or wouldn't look at us with a bargepole.

    don't expect to be signing Premier League clubs wonderkids. crocks only I'm afraid.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Swisdom said:

    Bolderhumphreyreid said:

    Swisdom said:

    I’m told we had a player ready to sign on the dotted line last week until Roly put paid to that. He wanted to come, his agent had set everything up but Roland wanted to focus on another position.

    I imagine it makes things difficult for the management team!

    Really struggling to believe he has any interest in Charlton in general let alone the playing side.
    Trust me. He refused this signing because he wanted a goalkeeper first.
    By the time that was done our target went elsewhere.

    Are you saying that RD is taking that much interest that he knows about Dillon Phillips, his lack of first team experience & that we need more cover there ??

    I can only assume updates on our squad (or lack of it) comes from LB & so he probably suggested the urgency for a gk first & foremost. More likely the budget at that time meant just one player coming in - LB really wanted a gk & so that's what he got.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,240
    How many Arsenal players have come here on loan now?

    Song
    Coquelin
    Sanogo
    Mavididi

    Am I missing anyone?
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    sam3110 said:

    How many Arsenal players have come here on loan now?

    Song
    Coquelin
    Sanogo
    Mavididi

    Am I missing anyone?

    Frimpong
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,030
    The six month game less loan spell at Walsall at the end of last season raises alarm bells with me.

    Would prefer someone like Elliott Ward.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,215
    sam3110 said:

    How many Arsenal players have come here on loan now?

    Song
    Coquelin
    Sanogo
    Mavididi

    Am I missing anyone?

    Danny O'Shea
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    edited August 2018
    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly
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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    I accept everything you say, but with our injury history I am sure he will have ample opportunities.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    Swisdom said:

    Bolderhumphreyreid said:

    Swisdom said:

    I’m told we had a player ready to sign on the dotted line last week until Roly put paid to that. He wanted to come, his agent had set everything up but Roland wanted to focus on another position.

    I imagine it makes things difficult for the management team!

    Really struggling to believe he has any interest in Charlton in general let alone the playing side.
    Trust me. He refused this signing because he wanted a goalkeeper first.
    By the time that was done our target went elsewhere.

    Is this really true?
    If so then Bowyer must be thinking about packing this in.
    Isn’t given the job properly then told what players to sign.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    RedChaser said:

    Oggy Red said:

    HardyAddick said:

    Arsenal central defender / mid-fielder linked

    https://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2018/08/15/which-other-arsenal-youngsters-could-go-on-loan-as-bielik-closes-in-on-charlton-move/


    Bielik, who has endured much misfortune with injuries in recent seasons .....

    Ticks all the boxes.

    Including the height test at 6' 2&1/2''
    Henry Irving said:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krystian_Bielik

    6' 2" 1/2

    There's a parrot in here :wink: .
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    LouisMend said:

    He's leaner than he was when he played
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    We defo need midfield and defence cover. I'd take Zelalem from arsenal. Remember seeing him in a friendly on sky few years back and he looked the business. He's also injured according to that website so he'd be perfect.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Henry Irving said:

    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
    Sarr up front then?
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited August 2018
    Or Aribo moves further forward and Lapslie goes on bench
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    Scoham said:


    Henry Irving said:

    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
    Sarr up front then?
    Ahead of Recco, Lyle or Karlan? No way
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Henry Irving said:

    Scoham said:


    Henry Irving said:

    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
    Sarr up front then?
    Ahead of Recco, Lyle or Karlan? No way
    Erm... he could play in goal?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    Scoham said:

    Henry Irving said:

    Scoham said:


    Henry Irving said:

    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
    Sarr up front then?
    Ahead of Recco, Lyle or Karlan? No way
    Erm... he could play in goal?
    Ahead of Dillon and Jed? No way.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Sarr as CEO?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Scoham said:

    Sarr as CEO?

    Rumour has it that he was quite close to one at some point.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Henry Irving said:

    Redrobo said:

    Henry Irving said:

    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    Three at the back with Bauer and Pearce. Sarr gets dropped.
    ....or Sarr place DM.
    Ahead of Pratley or Aribo? No way
    No, in 3-5-2.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,211
    Scoham said:

    Sarr as CEO?

    Ahead of Tony Keohane? OK fair enough
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    wmcf123 said:

    LouisMend said:

    He's leaner than he was when he played
    Grant Basey keeps nicking his food when he's not looking
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    ross1 said:

    Bielik can play CB and a DM role. If he is a loan, Arsenal will expect us to play him regularly, providing no more injuries at the back, who will he replace Bauer or Pearce? If he plays DM, then it is Aribo or Pratley. The trouble with loans is that you are expected to play them all the time and that means one of our players gets pushed out, unless they are happy to be on the bench, but I doubt it. We have to strengthen the squad, but need to start with the best 11. He could be cover for Page and Solly

    I don't think they'd expect an unknown and unwanted defender to start every week, it's not as if he's their star youngster

    He'll plenty of match time, whether at the back or to stiffen the midfield, I can imagine him playing alongside Pratley against the better sides away from home for example
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    edited August 2018
    golfaddick said:

    Swisdom said:

    Bolderhumphreyreid said:

    Swisdom said:

    I’m told we had a player ready to sign on the dotted line last week until Roly put paid to that. He wanted to come, his agent had set everything up but Roland wanted to focus on another position.

    I imagine it makes things difficult for the management team!

    Really struggling to believe he has any interest in Charlton in general let alone the playing side.
    Trust me. He refused this signing because he wanted a goalkeeper first.
    By the time that was done our target went elsewhere.

    Are you saying that RD is taking that much interest that he knows about Dillon Phillips, his lack of first team experience & that we need more cover there ??

    I can only assume updates on our squad (or lack of it) comes from LB & so he probably suggested the urgency for a gk first & foremost. More likely the budget at that time meant just one player coming in - LB really wanted a gk & so that's what he got.
    RD will still have Driesden or similar in his ear about something like this and take their advice over a caretaker English manager because RD is, as proved too many times now, a complete idiot when it comes to all things Charlton.

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