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Confirmed- Josh Magennis joins Bolton

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    Exiled_Addick said:

    kinveachyaddick said:

    Imagine we had Taylor and Maginnis...

    Doubt they’d make a natural strike pairing, a bit too similar. Would certainly be nice to have them both as options though.

    I think Taylor will score more than Josh did for us, but that’ll be partly down to the way Bowyer wants us to play.
    But mainly down to the fact that Taylor is a much better player.
    Magennis is average L1.
    Taylor is far better than average L1.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Covered End said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    kinveachyaddick said:

    Imagine we had Taylor and Maginnis...

    Doubt they’d make a natural strike pairing, a bit too similar. Would certainly be nice to have them both as options though.

    I think Taylor will score more than Josh did for us, but that’ll be partly down to the way Bowyer wants us to play.
    But mainly down to the fact that Taylor is a much better player.
    Magennis is average L1.
    Taylor is far better than average L1.
    We will see this season on Josh
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Covered End said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    kinveachyaddick said:

    Imagine we had Taylor and Maginnis...

    Doubt they’d make a natural strike pairing, a bit too similar. Would certainly be nice to have them both as options though.

    I think Taylor will score more than Josh did for us, but that’ll be partly down to the way Bowyer wants us to play.
    But mainly down to the fact that Taylor is a much better player.
    Magennis is average L1.
    Taylor is far better than average L1.
    Magennis has scored in The Championship
    Taylor has not.

    Not saying he isnt better, but think a key issue with Magennis was service.

    I have seen bith his goals and both were helped because of the players around him
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    edited August 2018
    paulie8290 said:

    Covered End said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    kinveachyaddick said:

    Imagine we had Taylor and Maginnis...

    Doubt they’d make a natural strike pairing, a bit too similar. Would certainly be nice to have them both as options though.

    I think Taylor will score more than Josh did for us, but that’ll be partly down to the way Bowyer wants us to play.
    But mainly down to the fact that Taylor is a much better player.
    Magennis is average L1.
    Taylor is far better than average L1.
    Magennis has scored in The Championship
    Taylor has not.

    Not saying he isnt better, but think a key issue with Magennis was service.

    I have seen bith his goals and both were helped because of the players around him
    How many one on ones did Magennis miss last season ?
    Oh and as for the penalty at Peterborough, that we all thought he would miss....

    I like Magennis. Smashing bloke but an average L1 striker and if we want to get promoted out of this division we need better than average.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2018
    We’ve seen him play loads and loads of matches and you can’t blame formation, tactics or managers for the fact that he’s just a bit mediocre.
    We cut him plenty of slack for working hard and being a good bloke. But the fact that Bolton bought him is unlikely to make him a better player imho.
    Taylor’s much better, and we’re a couple of hundred grand better off for the deal.
    (Don’t forget the mechanism lol)
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    paulie8290 said:

    Covered End said:

    Exiled_Addick said:

    kinveachyaddick said:

    Imagine we had Taylor and Maginnis...

    Doubt they’d make a natural strike pairing, a bit too similar. Would certainly be nice to have them both as options though.

    I think Taylor will score more than Josh did for us, but that’ll be partly down to the way Bowyer wants us to play.
    But mainly down to the fact that Taylor is a much better player.
    Magennis is average L1.
    Taylor is far better than average L1.
    Magennis has scored in The Championship
    Taylor has not.

    Not saying he isnt better, but think a key issue with Magennis was service.

    I have seen bith his goals and both were helped because of the players around him
    Simply not true.

    Magennis had 5 or 6 shots per game teed up for him by his team mates, more than any other player on the pitch usually, he just couldn't finish well enough and was too greedy too often to see other options were on.

    His goal yesterday wasn't a clean strike, he also usually starts a season well and the goals dry up.

    We'll see how he does overall, but I'm yet to be convinced that he's any better than last season.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,156
    MrOneLung said:

    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

    Don't expect you to have the answer, but I wonder what the stats are for Carl Leaburn and John Pearson. Hardly prolific but both absolutely crucial to the team and the way it set up, and, unlike Josh, played in a formation that both were happy with.

  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    PragueAddick said:

    MrOneLung said:

    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

    Don't expect you to have the answer, but I wonder what the stats are for Carl Leaburn and John Pearson. Hardly prolific but both absolutely crucial to the team and the way it set up, and, unlike Josh, played in a formation that both were happy with.

    Leaburn scoed 53 in 344
    Pearson scored 15 in 61
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited August 2018
    We dont exist again.

    H and J on talksport talking about the championship with a reporter and they said Magennis has done well since he came in from Scotland and the reporter said yeah there were rumours he was going to move from Hibs to Celtic but he cane to Bolton in athe Championship instead
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    paulie8290 said:

    PragueAddick said:

    MrOneLung said:

    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

    Don't expect you to have the answer, but I wonder what the stats are for Carl Leaburn and John Pearson. Hardly prolific but both absolutely crucial to the team and the way it set up, and, unlike Josh, played in a formation that both were happy with.

    Leaburn scoed 53 in 344
    Pearson scored 15 in 61
    1 in 6.49
    and
    1 in 4.06

    Would love to know how many goals they played an active part in creating?

    I don't think MAG was heavily involved in creating many goals. He had a lot of shockingly bad shots probably a 1 goal per 15 shots player.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    paulie8290 said:

    PragueAddick said:

    MrOneLung said:

    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

    Don't expect you to have the answer, but I wonder what the stats are for Carl Leaburn and John Pearson. Hardly prolific but both absolutely crucial to the team and the way it set up, and, unlike Josh, played in a formation that both were happy with.

    Leaburn scoed 53 in 344
    Pearson scored 15 in 61
    To be fair, Leaburn went for a long period when he wasn't scoring, and got a lot of stick as a result. It was only under Gritt and Curbs that he became a key member of the team, creating AND scoring. Indeed it would be interesting to see his stats under Lennie, and then under Gritt/Curbs
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,435

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,435
    Good to see Parkinson being able to hack it in the Championship at the moment though, that win puts them third two points behind Leeds who are top
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Good to see Parkinson being able to hack it in the Championship at the moment though, that win puts them third two points behind Leeds who are top

    Are they not level with Leeds
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,435
    paulie8290 said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Good to see Parkinson being able to hack it in the Championship at the moment though, that win puts them third two points behind Leeds who are top

    Are they not level with Leeds
    Yes sorry... Thought Leeds were on 12-pts for a moment
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    ForeverAddickted said:

    paulie8290 said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Good to see Parkinson being able to hack it in the Championship at the moment though, that win puts them third two points behind Leeds who are top

    Are they not level with Leeds
    Yes sorry... Thought Leeds were on 12-pts for a moment
    Haha, had Brentford held on tonight they would have been joint top as well
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,435
    paulie8290 said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    paulie8290 said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    Good to see Parkinson being able to hack it in the Championship at the moment though, that win puts them third two points behind Leeds who are top

    Are they not level with Leeds
    Yes sorry... Thought Leeds were on 12-pts for a moment
    Haha, had Brentford held on tonight they would have been joint top as well
    Awful last minute equaliser to concede
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,811
    These reporters eh? Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
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  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Where would we be today had we kept Parkinson?
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    masicat said:

    Where would we be today had we kept Parkinson?

    Probably same place as we are now.
    We won't move forward under any manager until Roland departs.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    Magennis was always a team player for Charlton. He doesn't have to score 15 goals to be a success in The Championship. He could score 8 goals, head away 50 opposition corners, harry defenders and be part of a fairly low-budget team that does well by keeping clean sheets and nicking wins.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,412
    Magdennis is history, he sometimes put a shift in for us but imo Taylor is a better player all round. Still early days for both at their new clubs, best of luck to big Josh but personally dont feel he is a Championship player or a goalscorer.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    Charlton "dud" goes on to tear up trees at another club shocker!

    We are a cliché of a football club...

    FUCK OFF ROLAND.
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,515
    johnnybev1987 said:

    Magdennis is history, he sometimes put a shift in for us but imo Taylor is a better player all round. Still early days for both at their new clubs, best of luck to big Josh but personally dont feel he is a Championship player or a goalscorer.

    Magennis played the majority of his time at Charlton with two very poor managers.

    Not sure you can say a guy plying his trade in The Championship, who's been a star performer for his country on the International stage is worse than Taylor.

  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,412
    supaclive said:

    johnnybev1987 said:

    Magdennis is history, he sometimes put a shift in for us but imo Taylor is a better player all round. Still early days for both at their new clubs, best of luck to big Josh but personally dont feel he is a Championship player or a goalscorer.

    Magennis played the majority of his time at Charlton with two very poor managers.

    Not sure you can say a guy plying his trade in The Championship, who's been a star performer for his country on the International stage is worse than Taylor.

    Its all about of opinions, i dont rate him. Still early for Taylor but i prefer him.

    Fairplay he is an international/ champ player, not saying he is rubbish just a league 1 player for me. He might prove me wrong and keep scoring but i'd be surprised
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,025
    supaclive said:

    johnnybev1987 said:

    Magdennis is history, he sometimes put a shift in for us but imo Taylor is a better player all round. Still early days for both at their new clubs, best of luck to big Josh but personally dont feel he is a Championship player or a goalscorer.

    Magennis played the majority of his time at Charlton with two very poor managers.

    Not sure you can say a guy plying his trade in The Championship, who's been a star performer for his country on the International stage is worse than Taylor.

    Exactly. Taylor might score more goals over a season but that's not to say Magennis doesn't do a job.

    However if Taylor was Northern irish i'm sure he'd have a few caps as well.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,924
    He didnt have the service with us, I really dont understand how he can be labelled as shit... when im pretty sure we could take any single striker from a league above us and make them look poor within 10 games.

    Harry Kane wouldt get 15 goals if he joined us any time in the last 5 seasons.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    edited August 2018
    killerandflash said:

    paulie8290 said:

    PragueAddick said:

    MrOneLung said:

    A good rate for a Goalscorer is 1 in 2
    Magennis was 1 in 4.8 for us.

    Don't expect you to have the answer, but I wonder what the stats are for Carl Leaburn and John Pearson. Hardly prolific but both absolutely crucial to the team and the way it set up, and, unlike Josh, played in a formation that both were happy with.

    Leaburn scoed 53 in 344
    Pearson scored 15 in 61
    To be fair, Leaburn went for a long period when he wasn't scoring, and got a lot of stick as a result. It was only under Gritt and Curbs that he became a key member of the team, creating AND scoring. Indeed it would be interesting to see his stats under Lennie, and then under Gritt/Curbs
    Here you go....

    Lennie; 4 in 91 (all games)

    Curbishley/Gritt; 62 in 285 (all games)

    Overall; 66 in 376

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