Teenagers and old music
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4.38 for Motorhead-Ace of Spades,I think I need a word in their little shell likes.5
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8 Earth, Wind and Fire September 8.08
If you played that now, any football fan who goes to matches would recognise it from the "NEVER GIVES THE BALL AWAY chant!
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did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!1 -
agree with what you're saying, but 2.55 out of 10?golfaddick said:
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
I bet they'd give that dopey balls Will Young a better score for his version.
I can appreciate most music, not always like it, but certainly appreciate the originality and creativity to it.0 -
Be interesting if the kids provided some of their favourites from the last five years for the CL old gits on here to mark out of ten.
Not so sure that their generosity of marks would be reciprocated.
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chill out. it was the mike flowers pops version.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!2 -
just a good job he didn't get hold of your remix of The End......"I walked on down the hallway....."jimmymelrose said:
chill out. it was the mike flowers pops version.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!0 -
I showed my Saudi students in Riyadh a picture of The Valley today whilst 'Valley Floyd Road' played in the background. They just looked at me in blank amazement!!captainbob said:
I'm not a music teacher; I teach English and Film Studies. I do feel, though, that a teacher's job is to introduce pupils to more than just their specialist subjects, hence Music Friday, walks in the countryside, sharing my travel adventures and trips to Charlton!JessieAddick said:I wish I had music teacher like you when I was at school!
Do you play each song just once and ask them to give a mark immediately? I think if so then that's why the pop songs have got relatively higher scores. Some rock music tends to be difficult to get into on first listen.
When I was at university I got interested in a lot of 80's music released before I was born. I remember it took me a few weeks to like Depeche Mode's music (I didn't 'get' it at all at first. Thought it was flat.) They slowly became one of my favourite bands.
I agree with your point but if they don't score immediately, they'd have forgotten by the next day!
If any potential Saudi buyer was in there, he/she played a great poker face!!0 -
Hope you told them the music shop joke?
Have you got anything by The Doors?
No, only the fire extinguisher.4 -
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.CharltonKerry said:Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
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I'll get back to you in ten years' time with the results.LennyLowrent said:Great initiative!!!
I would think videos would have great influence on their markings...
Mind you, now days its hard to tell weather we are watching a song supported by a video or the other way around.
So perhaps it is a good idea to repeat the experiment 2 more times.
1. Videos (or stills when none is available) andno sound
2. Audio only.
Chop chop...
Regarding the videos, if the picture quality is really poor or there is no video (or it's inappropriate), I find a video of something that fits the mood and, muting the sound, play that as the accompaniment instead.0 -
Tangled Up In Blue should be played, and I reckon they'd score it at under 4.5, because of Dylan's voice, despite its genius.
Could I also request you go for some Jeff Buckley (ideally Lover, You Should've Come Over), and definitely definitely some Miles Davis (which will get panned lol)?
This is fantastic, though - I've enjoyed looking down through the list. Big Time Sensuality at 96 with a 2.85 rating is a travesty.
Kids these days... (says the 24 year old!)1 -
If I might suggest a couple for your consideration, in no particular ordercaptainbob said:
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.CharltonKerry said:Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
1. Baby driver
2. Only living boy in New York.
3. Homeward bound
4. Scarborough fair
5. 59th bridge street song
I see the problem you got, sod it just let them watch “the graduate” obviously the uncut version.1 -
Leaving aside the obvious BOTW, I would go for America or Sound of Silence ... although if they have heard the Disturbed version, they will probably prefer that.captainbob said:
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.CharltonKerry said:Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
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I can't remember which version I played. With hindsight, I agree that a different track may have been better and maybe I'll give them a second Doors track - your choices or maybe 'Break on Through', 'Riders on the Storm'. How about 'Indian Summer' for a very different style?golfaddick said:
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!0 -
Riders on the Storm could be interesting.captainbob said:
I can't remember which version I played. With hindsight, I agree that a different track may have been better and maybe I'll give them a second Doors track - your choices or maybe 'Break on Through', 'Riders on the Storm'. How about 'Indian Summer' for a very different style?golfaddick said:
did you play the original (album) version or the shortened single version (spits). I can see them getting a bit "bored" with a 7 min song * as a massive Doors fan I'd say it maybe wouldn't have been the best track to play them. maybe Roadhouse Blues ?? LA Women is great too. but again its 7 mins long.SE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!0 -
Thanks, Paddy. I'll listen to your recommendations and make a decision. I definitely want to try Miles Davis or someone similar as I've become keen on jazz in the last couple of years.PaddyP17 said:Tangled Up In Blue should be played, and I reckon they'd score it at under 4.5, because of Dylan's voice, despite its genius.
Could I also request you go for some Jeff Buckley (ideally Lover, You Should've Come Over), and definitely definitely some Miles Davis (which will get panned lol)?
This is fantastic, though - I've enjoyed looking down through the list. Big Time Sensuality at 96 with a 2.85 rating is a travesty.
Kids these days... (says the 24 year old!)
I'll post the final chart in about June.1 -
Both versions are superb tbfstonemuse said:
Leaving aside the obvious BOTW, I would go for America or Sound of Silence ... although if they have heard the Disturbed version, they will probably prefer that.captainbob said:
I've been saving Simon and Garfunkel for this year (when they are in Year 11) as I hope they will now have the maturity to appreciate them more. I've also been struggling to decide which track to choose.CharltonKerry said:Why no Simon and Garfunkel? no wonder the educational system is in such a mess :-), some interesting and surprising results there.
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I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogeySE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much!
contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50 1 -
Go for itLeuth said:
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogeySE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much! contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 500 -
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I'll play.0
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So will I.
Oh, and I've just chosen this week's song for my class. It's 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' by The Korgis. (1980)0 -
I've got it on 7" vinyl. probably a 6.5 out of 10.captainbob said:So will I.
Oh, and I've just chosen this week's song for my class. It's 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' by The Korgis. (1980)0 -
Walked into a locked ward and the sheet music of this one was on the piano at the activity room.captainbob said:So will I.
Oh, and I've just chosen this week's song for my class. It's 'Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime' by The Korgis. (1980)
Played and sang a heart rinsing version with my back to the initial audience of 6.
Finished with a beautiful dbmaj9 chord, turned around to the surviving audience of 1 to receive a smoke request...4 -
Couldn't agree more Jessie, the same thing happened to me but in a completely different era.JessieAddick said:
I'm 31 and I don't listen to current pop music (except maybe one or two singers'). I checked out the UK singles chart and Billboard charts last week when I was doing exercise but almost all the songs sounded similar to me! So boring.... In the end I switched back to my old playlists which include pop and rock songs from the 80's and 90's....Leuth said:
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogeySE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much! contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 50
I guess you need to be a teenager to appreciate all that stuff.
I was a great rock music fan in the 70s and by that I mean the conventional supergroups including Floyd, ELP, Led Zep, Genesis, Supertramp, TYA, Deep Purple and Yes … especially Yes. And then at around the time I got married aged 22 in the mid 70s Punk Rock appeared from seemingly nowhere. I couldn’t believe it. I’d listened to all these wonderful musicians for a number of years and then it emerged that three chord guitar players could make a living by simply cranking up the volume and distortion and shouting down the mike.
I’ve just watched nearly 4 hours of the Yes documentary on Sky Arts. Steve Howe the brilliant lead guitar said that at the time he thought it was a joke, but was gracious enough to admit that he and many others were caught off guard as the market dramatically changed. The thing for me was that punk rock was responsible for locking me into a fairly specific time frame for music, and that happened pretty much overnight and at a very young age.
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Going Underground 4.17 really? Bring back the cane!4
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First results of the year (102 songs in the charts):
52 The Korgis - Everybody's Gotta Learn Sometime 5.75 (out of 10)
93 The Cult - Love Removal Machine 3.58
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I'm suprised to see none of these teenagers have listened to Metallica.0
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Yes go on mate.Leuth said:
I'd like to run the inverse experiment on CL - expose our lovely fogeySE10Addick said:I think the next part of your experiment needs to be an education in music and why the pop stuff they listen to now is on the whole crap.
Music really has dumbed down now, nothing really original.
Cant believe kids giving the Doors such a low mark has riled me this much! contingent to the hip and happening sounds of the current pop scene, with an average mark out of ten. Say the word and I'll start the thread. Minimum contributing age of 501 -
Today I played the last of the 130 pieces of music to my tutor group ('Time to say Goodbye') as their GCSEs start next week so they'll be wanting quiet in tutor times! It's been fun monitoring their reactions to music from before they were born and I thought I'd share with you the final list. A few points of interest:
- we started this three and a half years ago
- I thought they would become more broad-minded with age but I think the opposite happened
- the winning song was replayed today (the very first song I played to them) and they scored it again to see if it was still popular - it was. It would have ranked #8 in the charts but the kids aren't all the same ones now and maybe the other songs at the top would have been a little more harshly judged too.
I may start it all again in Sept with my new class but I doubt I'll stick in teaching long enough to compile a similarly long list again.
Oh and I'm going to surprise the class with cds of our top 20 as leaving presents, if I can.MUSIC FRIDAY: The Final Chart
1 A-Ha Take on Me 8.88
2 Tracy Chapman Fast Car 8.72
3 Queen Don’t Stop me Now 8.67
4 KC and the Sunshine Band Give It Up 8.32
5 Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell Ain’t No Mountain High Enough 8.31
6 Sam Cooke A Change is Gonna Come 8.21
7 George Michael Careless Whisper 8.09
8 Earth, Wind and Fire September 8.08
9 Elton John Your Song 8.05
10 Chuck Berry Johnny B Goode 7.91
11 John Denver Take me Home 7.90
Michael Jackson Don’t Stop ‘Til You Get Enough 7.90
13 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Wanna Have Fun 7.88
14 ELO Mr Blue Sky 7.80
15 Minnie Riperton Loving You 7.64
16 Nat King Cole When I Fall in Love 7.52
17 Tears for Fears Everybody Wants to Rule the World 7.48
18 Modjo Lady 7.32
19 The B52s Loveshack 7.27
20 Stevie Wonder Superstition 7.17
21 Simple Minds Don’t You Forget about Me 7.16
22 Debussy Clair de Lune 7.11
23 Audrey Hepburn Moon River 7.07
24 Johnny Cash Hurt 7.00
25 Erasure A Little Respect 6.99
26 Gene Kelly Good Morning 6.97
James Brown It's a Man's World 6.97
28 Boney M Sunny 6.96
29 Whitney Houston I’m Every Woman 6.95
30 The Beatles Hello Goodbye 6.85
Rainbow Since You’ve Been Gone 6.85
The Shirelles Will you Still Love me Tomorrow? 6.85
33 The Gypsy Kings Bamboleo 6.84
34 James Sit Down 6.83
35 Frankie Valli and the Four Seasons I Love you Baby 6.81
36 Deacon Blue Real Gone Kid 6.78
37 The Monkees Daydream Believer 6.73
38 Jackie Wilson Reet Petite 6.65
39 Eva Cassidy Fields of Gold 6.45
40 Aretha Franklin Say a Little Prayer 6.40
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