Euell linked with England coaching role

kentaddick said:

Greenie said:

Curb_It said:

And I only made a jokey comment about Greenie's hatred of My Bad (sorry Greenie) to lighten the bloody mood.

That went tits up.

Hey no worries @Curb_It , you knew the joke, I'm just getting a bit fed up with the other bloke digging me out time after time.
Hopefully he's back under his stone.

Yeah who was that guy? Jeez.

@kentaddick
I have asked you to not converse with me on here, for some reason you just cant do it.
What the fuck is so wrong with your social skills that you cant grasp that someone is bored with you, and does not want any interaction with you whatsoever.
Have a little think about it will you.

This is the most Charlton Life thread I’ve ever seen.

Redrobo said:

I can’t think of a black coach that has not proven to be a success. Seems logical we should appoint one in an England role.

This model sold well.

RodneyCharltonTrotta said:

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Greenie said:

kentaddick said:

Greenie said:

kentaddick said:

Curb_It said:

I see Greenie dished out a flag above... and i doubt it has anything to do the with topic and the subsequent argument.

CL resident troll, best to ignore.

So still following me around on here with your little digs.
I guess you are going to be a cunt all your sad life.

i love you.

Ahh the online melt. Metaphorically puts his hands up for a row, the other person stands up for themselves, melt shits himself and tries to respond with humour.
Tell you what Kuntaddick, lets make a deal, you ignore me and Ill ignore you to get along with your sad internet life which no doubt fluctuates between visits to pornhub and CL.
I think thats best.
I have no doubt that the decent CL posters are as bored with it as I am.

I dunno mate, both cracking sites I'll probably never get bored of :-)

Yeah, but what makes you so sure you're a "decent CL poster"?

And I thought I was going to be bored waiting at Gatwick....

This thread is gammonite.

Just appoint the best candidate for the job. If you just pick a black guy because of his skin colour how does that promote equality?

No. 3 has pulled out.

SDAddick said:

PaddyP17 said:

Ah man, the meritocracy; box-ticking; "do it if they're good enough" arguments coming back out again. I've tried to articulate time and again as to why sometimes diversity needs to be artificially encouraged. I'll list a few thoughts below:

- Various BAME footballing figures have said they've experienced a form of discrimination in football when it comes to coaching roles. It's imperative that we listen to their experiences, otherwise it's eminently possible that their voices are marginalised even further than we've seen historically.

- As has been mentioned, why are there so few black coaches relative to black footballers? We're now I'd say at least 15-20 years on from when a lot of coaches/managers would have been playing, and yet it's still overwhelmingly white former players who are now in coaching roles. We have to examine the reasons for this (one of which is potentially discrimination as various BAME figures have alluded to).

- I don't think there's intentional racism on an institutional level. I do think, however, that structures in football are still predominantly "white". (Even if you think about, say, the community courses that Charlton run, there certainly weren't many black kids on those courses when I was young [early 2000s] and I don't know how much that's changed now.)

- The above point, of course, can also be linked into more sociological reasons and how in particular the black British community (along with British Pakistanis and Bangladeshis) is still far more likely to suffer from poverty/child poverty; unemployment; and similar. Again, there's a wide range of social issues to consider here and I appreciate this is starting to widen the scope of the discussion of positive discrimination a bit too broadly.

In summary, I think positive discrimination and actively attempting to recruit BAME coaches/staff can only be a good thing until such time as social problems facing the BAME community can be rectified from the ground up, rather than sort of artificially ensuring their presence at the top end of society. Hope that makes sense.

This is so well articulated and such a great representation of the problems in football with the ideas that we somehow have a "meritocracy."

Let me add one more: Sam Allardcye, Mark Hughes, and Alan Pardew keep getting work.

Why would Sam Allardyce continually getting work be counter to meritocracy. I hate his style of football and his insessant moaning about refs but fairly certain I am right in saying he has never had a team relegated despite picking up desperate situations at Palace and Sunderland to name two. Plus he took Bolton to Europe and both West Ham and Blackburn were relegated after he left and their new managers tried total football which failed.

If I was an owner of a club interested in securing the finance of the PL season after season I would quite possibly employ him.

Good luck Jase, hope he gets the gig and is a huge success and inspiration for others to follow. He has certainly earned his stripes with us. It is a shame it is under a positive discrimination recruitment drive but for the many reasons given above that is the situation football is currently in and hopefully once the likes of Jase have shown what an asset and wonderful job they can do this will not be required in future as diversification in football management and coaching becomes the norm.

Big_Bad_World said:

RedChaser said:

Brendan_O_Connell said:

I'd rather give the role to Dianne Abbot that Sol f***ing Campbell.

Let's not be hasty Brendan

Oh, I don't know. She'd have England playing the 8-6-4 formation in no time.

19 a side. Could be fun.