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NFL 18/19

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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Laddick01 said:

    If the Bears had Mack god knows what that score would’ve been.

    The Bears QB is their weakness. He is a poor man's Blake Bortles and he will keep them from glory just like Bortles does.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,659
    edited November 2018

    A certain Dalvin Cook is back, incase you missed it.

    Cook was clocked at 22.07mph during that run. It's the fastest speed reached by any ball carrier this season. His first game back from a hamstring injury as well.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited November 2018
    Sounds crazy, but it is clear to me other teams are slowly starting to figure Mahomes out. In the first four games he had 14TDS and zero pics. In the last 5 games? 12 TDS and 6 pics. He has more interceptions than any QB the last five games. Yeah, he is still outstanding, but I think by the playoffs, he will be just enough less good that the Chiefs get beat.

    I've seen this before. The Chargers of the early 80s with Fouts. The Dolphins with Marino in the mid to late 80s. In the end, defense wins Championships. The Chiefs don't have one.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037

    Laddick01 said:

    If the Bears had Mack god knows what that score would’ve been.

    The Bears QB is their weakness. He is a poor man's Blake Bortles and he will keep them from glory just like Bortles does.
    This is a very definitive statement for a second year QB who currently has the 11th/12th best (including or not including Fitzmagic) QBR this year...
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited November 2018
    PaddyP17 said:

    Laddick01 said:

    If the Bears had Mack god knows what that score would’ve been.

    The Bears QB is their weakness. He is a poor man's Blake Bortles and he will keep them from glory just like Bortles does.
    This is a very definitive statement for a second year QB who currently has the 11th/12th best (including or not including Fitzmagic) QBR this year...
    Yes, but a big part of that is the one game he had 6 TDs. Take that game out as a career one-off (which I am happy to do as he will never do that again) and his rating would be in the bottom quartile of the NFL. In 4 of his 8 games he has a QB rating under 80, with a 5th game of 83. And against the three good teams he has played (GB, SEA, NE) his ratings were 77, 83, 69. Once he is in the playoffs, I believe he will go bust. Bortles has put up good numbers by the stats in the regular season too but it becomes obvious that JAX has no chance to ever win the big one as long as he is behind center. I think Mitch is the same. It's an early call, as he is young, but I just don't feel it with MT.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037

    PaddyP17 said:

    Laddick01 said:

    If the Bears had Mack god knows what that score would’ve been.

    The Bears QB is their weakness. He is a poor man's Blake Bortles and he will keep them from glory just like Bortles does.
    This is a very definitive statement for a second year QB who currently has the 11th/12th best (including or not including Fitzmagic) QBR this year...
    Yes, but a big part of that is the one game he had 6 TDs. Take that game out as a career one-off (which I am happy to do as he will never do that again) and his rating would be in the bottom quartile of the NFL. In 4 of his 8 games he has a QB rating under 80, with a 5th game of 83. And against the three good teams he has played (GB, SEA, NE) his ratings were 77, 83, 69. Once he is in the playoffs, I believe he will go bust. Bortles has put up good numbers by the stats in the regular season too but it becomes obvious that JAX has no chance to ever win the big one as long as he is behind center. I think Mitch is the same. It's an early call, as he is young, but I just don't feel it with MT.
    Very true about that career game. Regarding the ratings against the three good teams he's played, I think that goes to show just how important it is to consider all players and units - there was a win, a 1 point and a 7 point loss there.

    This is where I think the hate on Bortles as the sole reason the Jags look like complete shite (which we currently do) is unfair (though equally I think we need to try and draft a QB). Last year, the play calling absolutely screwed us in the AFCCG. Run up the middle, run up the middle, incomplete pass, punt for the entire second half. Trubisky doesn't need to do much more than game manage. There was a concerning stat about how often he favoured throwing only to the right hand side of the field this is the post in question and that can be remedied by coaching... But ultimately it's way too early to claim he'll be more of a Bortles than a Brees (to be alliterative).
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,396
    Rams getting a lesson.
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,886
    Saints beating the Rams 35-17 at Half Time. As a Saints fan I'm enjoying this. The Rams are a very good team and Goff is a fine Quarterback, but is there a better QB around at the moment than Drew Brees even including the likes of Brady & Rodgers? He is absolute quality.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    Anybody Rams fans coming out of the woodwork this year?
    From memory only the Rams and Texans don’t have Charlton Life support

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  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567

    Sounds crazy, but it is clear to me other teams are slowly starting to figure Mahomes out. In the first four games he had 14TDS and zero pics. In the last 5 games? 12 TDS and 6 pics. He has more interceptions than any QB the last five games. Yeah, he is still outstanding, but I think by the playoffs, he will be just enough less good that the Chiefs get beat.

    I've seen this before. The Chargers of the early 80s with Fouts. The Dolphins with Marino in the mid to late 80s. In the end, defense wins Championships. The Chiefs don't have one.

    They really are not figuring Mahomes out. Today's pick was a hail mary with seconds to play in the first half. The pick didn't matter so they let Mahomes go for it. Mahomes is still growing and learning. The other picks are growing pains and occurred because he was forcing a pass into a window that didn't exist.
    To a certain extent the Chiefs are deliberately holding Mahomes back. We get the lead and basically run the ball for most of our recent fourth quarter plays. His numbers could be higher!

    Mahomes has been brilliant but it is coach Reid's play calling and the offensive choices available (Hunt, Kelce, Watkins, Hill etc) that are going to make us tough to stop.
    History does say that the Chiefs will fall well short of the Superbowl and I can't disagree with that. But Mahomes is the real deal.
  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    Rams Saints has been immense.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,396
    Saints have it. Nice.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,863
    No defence either side.
  • Pats not hanging around.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,293

    Pats not hanging around.

    Was breakneck speed, the way Brady is looking this season he can probably play til he's 45
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    What annoys me about the modern day NFL is it is so rare to go deep anymore. I like that Mahomes throws it deep downfield now and then. But in 40 passes in the first half so far tonight between Brady and Rodgers, only two completions are beyond 19 yards. Thats 5%. Short pass after short pass just puts me to sleep. Go deep now and then!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,357
    Saints/Patriots for the Superbowl ?
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,659

    Saints/Patriots for the Superbowl ?

    I hope not. The never ending GOAT discussions are boring enough as it is.
  • andyg90
    andyg90 Posts: 505
    Very happy this morning. Statement win from the Chargers? First AFC team to go into Seattle and win in 13 attempts. Previous years I would’ve been certain we would lose even at 26-10 up.

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  • PaddyP17
    PaddyP17 Posts: 13,037
    The Jags didn't lose this week! Get in there!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,863
    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

  • MrOneLung said:

    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

    Bears lol
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762

    MrOneLung said:

    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

    Bears lol
    I want to see Bears beat a good team, and then I'm happy to fully buy into this!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,863
    there is usually one unexpected team in there and thought would throw them in.

  • The Bears looking good to make the playoffs and have a nice remaining schedule now.
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762

    The Bears looking good to make the playoffs and have a nice remaining schedule now.

    I'm not so sure about the schedule... 2 games vs Vikings, @ Rams & @ Packers will be very tricky.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,659

    MrOneLung said:

    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

    Bears lol
    I want to see Bears beat a good team, and then I'm happy to fully buy into this!
    The Bears have a very easy run in. The only top teams they have to play are the Rams and the injury plagued Vikings. Win one of the Minnesota games and they should be through.
  • The Bears looking good to make the playoffs and have a nice remaining schedule now.

    I'm not so sure about the schedule... 2 games vs Vikings, @ Rams & @ Packers will be very tricky.

    MrOneLung said:

    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

    Bears lol
    I want to see Bears beat a good team, and then I'm happy to fully buy into this!
    The Bears have a very easy run in. The only top teams they have to play are the Rams and the injury plagued Vikings. Win one of the Minnesota games and they should be through.
    They should have beaten the Packers once already and I'm not completely sold on the Vikings. They also play the Lions twice and the Giants.
  • Oh_Yoni_Boy
    Oh_Yoni_Boy Posts: 1,762
    edited November 2018

    The Bears looking good to make the playoffs and have a nice remaining schedule now.

    I'm not so sure about the schedule... 2 games vs Vikings, @ Rams & @ Packers will be very tricky.

    MrOneLung said:

    Calling the Championship games now

    Pats/Steelers
    Rams/ Bears

    Bears lol
    I want to see Bears beat a good team, and then I'm happy to fully buy into this!
    The Bears have a very easy run in. The only top teams they have to play are the Rams and the injury plagued Vikings. Win one of the Minnesota games and they should be through.
    They should have beaten the Packers once already and I'm not completely sold on the Vikings. They also play the Lions twice and the Giants.
    Yeah, fair - I need to get the 'old' Bears out of my head a bit, Rams is close to a guaranteed loss and we'll bottle at least a couple of the 5 divisional games we have which would take our L-column to 6. Giants and 49ers at are a slam dunk.

    It hinges on those two Vikings games, really. Do well in those and 9-7 may be good enough, and we really should get that.