The influence of the EU on Britain.
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Or “People’s Votes” on Independence for Scotland and unification/independence in NI, both countries vote for it and rejoin the EU. England and Wales leave the EU without a deal and everyone’s happy?bobmunro said:
Peoples vote:MuttleyCAFC said:They need a people's vote because there will be a backlash otherwise.
No Deal - backlash
This deal - backlash
No Brexit - backlash
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Trouble is, Remainers will do their utmost to turn any second referendum in to a Brexit cancellation vote. They're already playing their semantic games by calling it a "People's Vote" as if that somehow makes it more valid and popular, coz the 'people' (whoever they are) want it.bobmunro said:To avoid the fallacious argument that another referendum would be undemocratic, the simple choice on another referendum could be:
Accept this deal.
Reject this deal and renegotiate.
The latter would need the EU to agree an extention of Article 50.
No options of No deal or cancelling Brexit.1 -
I disagree
No deal: That's what we will have - we can't stop 'idiots' voting - not my words, but what people will say and we are a democracy
This deal: That will happen and May will be vindicated
No brexit: Brexiters may say we were always going to have another vote until we voted to remain, but they can't argue it was the will of the people.
We may be divided, but any of the three will end something that has been dividing us since the initial vote! In the short to medium term at least.0 -
Runners and riders ?Red_in_SE8 said:Rees Mogg has put in his letter. Makes leadership contest inevitable as a lot of ERG were holding back on his advice.
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Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!4 -
Not really.Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
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They are making their move - they don't want Brexit, they want an extreme Brexit! It is important they are shot down.0
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She is just answering the same questions over and over again. Hasn’t she got more important stuff to be doing now?1
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I think that in itself should tell her something. A village idiot should be able to tell her that her deal is dead. She has to accept that!0
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She won’t very soon...!Red_in_SE8 said:She is just answering the same questions over and over again. Hasn’t she got more important stuff to be doing now?
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Forget about other parties, She needed enough of her party and the DUP to get behind it and it is clear today that won't happen. She may get a few stray Labour MPs, but the numbers are not going to work for her.0
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You have to admire her stamina, patience and intellect in handling all these questions, off the cuff, for the last few hours.1
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Here comes jimmy krankie banging the Scottish independance drum again - get in the bin2
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What sort of party would elect a less charasmatic younger brother as leader.WSS said:Could the lesser Johnson brother have a shot at leadership...?
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To be fair I would probably vote to get myself as far away as possible from this debacle if I lived in Scotland!palarsehater said:Here comes jimmy krankie banging the Scottish independance drum again - get in the bin
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i want to buy my own house, millions died for my right to own property, why can't the rest of the country just get behind me and get me a house and get out of the terrible rental market that's costing me money for no return?Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
JUST GET ON WITH IT and get me a house.6 -
Pie charts and breaking down of leave votes are great
Yes or no we voted yes - now the government must see it through
I would like to see a vote on the 3 options but don’t have any faith in it being followed through1 -
You mean the First Minister for Scotland banging the drum that the Party was formed for in the first place ?palarsehater said:Here comes jimmy krankie banging the Scottish independance drum again - get in the bin
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I listen to him every day. His smugness and condescending attitude towards people make me ashamed to hold the same point of view as him in the referendum.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:James O'brien is especially powerful listening this morning on LBC
If more people listened this nation would be a much nicer more informed country.
At least Nigel Farage doesnt belittle people on his show. Even if I disagree with everything he says, he lets people with opinions like mine be heard rather than talking over them and making them out to be stupid constantly.7 -
Serious food for thought? Bollox.Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
Millions of men from many nations fought and won against tyranny and facism. The founding fathers of the EU had as one of their overiding ambitions to avoid a repeat of that, and for 73 years Europe, certainly western Europe, has been at peace.
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I reckon the motivations of the men that fought and died in WW1 & WW2 had nothing to do with the EU, either way, and anyone from either side invoking their memory to support their perspective does so in poor taste.bobmunro said:
Serious food for thought? Bollox.Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
Millions of men from many nations fought and won against tyranny and facism. The founding fathers of the EU had as one of their overiding ambitions to avoid a repeat of that, and for 73 years Europe, certainly western Europe, has been at peace.6 -
Agree, but the abject horror of two world wars in Europe and the will to ensure that it could never happen again was part of the motivation for the fledgling cooperation of European nations.se9addick said:
I reckon the motivations of the men that fought and died in WW1 & WW2 had nothing to do with the EU, either way, and anyone from either side invoking their memory to support their perspective does so in poor taste.bobmunro said:
Serious food for thought? Bollox.Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
Millions of men from many nations fought and won against tyranny and facism. The founding fathers of the EU had as one of their overiding ambitions to avoid a repeat of that, and for 73 years Europe, certainly western Europe, has been at peace.
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alright haggis bothererShootersHillGuru said:
You mean the First Minister for Scotland banging the drum that the Party was formed for in the first place ?palarsehater said:Here comes jimmy krankie banging the Scottish independance drum again - get in the bin
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Anyone think Corbyn would have been (or will be) able to get us a better deal?0
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Quality insult, I will use this on the first Sweaty I see today...er..or tomorrow.palarsehater said:
alright haggis bothererShootersHillGuru said:
You mean the First Minister for Scotland banging the drum that the Party was formed for in the first place ?palarsehater said:Here comes jimmy krankie banging the Scottish independance drum again - get in the bin
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Except in 1982. The Falklands conflict was the only deployment of exclusively EU millitary. The French assisted the Argentines and 100sof British soldiers died as a result.bobmunro said:
Serious food for thought? Bollox.Jensenwasclass said:Quote from 'Shooters Hill Addick'
With the exception of Rees-Mogg and equally lunatic brexiters. A no deal Brexit is universally condemned
Read this para from yesterdays 'left wing' Daily Mirror
Letters Page:
'Millions of men died to give this countrt freedom and democracy to rule ourselves.
so why can't MPs and the public get behind the PM and get us out of one
of the most corrupt organistions in the world, ie the EU'
Serious food for thought!
Millions of men from many nations fought and won against tyranny and facism. The founding fathers of the EU had as one of their overiding ambitions to avoid a repeat of that, and for 73 years Europe, certainly western Europe, has been at peace.
The Irish maintained trading relations with the enemy.7
