The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.63 -
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Lol.cfgs said:
239, Rapier, Sabre? Or proper old?RedChaser said:
It's a big red old Dennis with 100,000 on the clock, ladders , hoses the lotFanny Fanackapan said:
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.
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Snip.Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.1 -
Loved when we first got a 239, the air start was so amazing.blackpool72 said:
Lol.cfgs said:
239, Rapier, Sabre? Or proper old?RedChaser said:
It's a big red old Dennis with 100,000 on the clock, ladders , hoses the lotFanny Fanackapan said:
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.
Let him answer that0 -
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂carly burn said:
Snip.Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
Made my evening, how crazy is Roland🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪3 -
Which sort of proves what I was saying all along. Roland doesn't want to sell the club, what he actually wants is his money back.Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
Nevermind that he is completely detached from reality if he ever expects it to happen.4 -
If that is true, surely it is sufficient evidence for Duchatelet to be sectioned!Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.16 - Sponsored links:
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I may be falling into the trap of ascribing logic to Roland but what on earth could reasonably be behind that increase in asking price?3
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To be fair Napa did say £77M quite a few pages back!Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.36 -
And that figure went up dramatically?Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
To what for heavens sake?
We’re doomed.0 -
This is criminally insane...5
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FFS its his EGO !!! thats it EGO no logic just ego --end of1
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But there is no way any bidder is going to agree to pay that - surely. If not they should be sectioned too!7
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I hope the FF members are taking notes. Need to ask LDT the justification for the price increase, why RD is turning away interest and who is spreading lie about done deals when it's clear that no sane person would ever meet Roland's crazy valuation.5
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Sure it wasnt 77m?0
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A different world to when I joined in 84 that's for sure.cfgs said:
Loved when we first got a 239, the air start was so amazing.blackpool72 said:
Lol.cfgs said:
239, Rapier, Sabre? Or proper old?RedChaser said:
It's a big red old Dennis with 100,000 on the clock, ladders , hoses the lotFanny Fanackapan said:
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.
Let him answer that0 -
I hope they’re taking note0
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I hope someone asks LDT some very searching questions about this at the FF. I expect that all we’ll get back is lies and platitudes but:
- how long they are going to wait for the Aussies to get sorted
- why RD deterred a fresh bidder with a £70m+ price tag
- whether the recent interest really was reliant on American money, and whether the terms of that included separate ownership of the Valley/SL to ownership of the club.
Are all meaty topics to grill him on.10 -
He can simply deny anything we put to him unless we have evidence3
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If the Aussies are trying to stump up the cash to meet that figure they want their heads read!3
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If he's jacked the price up, then among other things it must mean that the previous EFL ODT becomes invalid, and a new one would need to be submitted.
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If he’s the honest guy that some believe him to be then he won’t be comfortable lying. And he might want to consider what evidence may emerge to expose him if he does.razil said:He can simply deny anything we put to him unless we have evidence
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Something doesn't ring true. If I was very keen to buy the club from a mad man, I would go public on what I was willing to pay and what he is demanding. Of course all these suggestions of an imminent sale suggests the price is reasonable ish at least. If it isn't something stinks.0
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I think it means that the price went up to over £70m. I don’t think anyone knows for sure what the previous asking price was but the conjecture ranged from £30m to £45m. So he’s banged on another £30m at least. Madness. The prospective buyers must have really pissed him off somehow.Macronate said:
And that figure went up dramatically?Airman Brown said:
Over £70m.LargeAddick said:
Are you able to say what the quoted price was?Airman Brown said:
The quoted price went up dramatically in December and De Turck knows that because he was the messenger.PragueAddick said:Well, I'm a bit sceptical that other potential buyers are being turned away because of the Aussies.Exclusivity? For a year or more? It doesn't seem like rational business behaviour to me. But then again, this is Duchatelet we are dealing with here.
I think it far more likely that credible buyers take a look and then walk away once they have seen the price tag. Indeed I'm now able to reveal an example of that, involving a name that has been bandied around on here:
Alisher Usmanov.
As I've mentioned at various times, there is a Vienna based Addick who is a senior honcho in an investment bank there. In 2014, he came (too) late in the game with a bid involving the Arenacom guys and a Ukrainian oligarch. Apparently Usmanov is his client (for other business) so he took the opportunity to pitch the sale to him. Usmanov was interested enough to look over the sale documentation (knowing full well Charlton's League position). However after reading said documents he replied that he wasn't interested. Period.
I also learnt that Steve spoke with Richard Murray in December. Murray told him that he thought a deal was near but he did not say to Steve that he should back off with other buyers because of this.
This reinforces my long held view that the issue is the unrealistic price that RD is holding out for, and the Aussies have so far been the only party willing to even try to reason with the deluded one. For people like Usmanov, it's not worth them wasting their breath.
To what for heavens sake?
We’re doomed.0 -
Noted.PragueAddick said:If he's jacked the price up, then among other things it must mean that the previous EFL ODT becomes invalid, and a new one would need to be submitted.
One for you on Jan 16, CARD, @Davo551
