The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
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Fixed.Showmetheway2gohome said:Think Roland wants to sell to Aussies because they haven’t got enough money behind them.wants to throw us from cooking pot onto the barbie.
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I'm not sure I have much to contribute to this thread, as I I know little more than anyone else, but what I think I know is:
Muir *may* still be involved despite his comment. I was told he was, on 24th Oct.
GM contacted me yesterday to say he'd text me if the deal was completed, which obviously it wasn't. (Of course he might not be involved at all, and just winding me up).
As far as I know they are still intending to fund this magical 5 year "plan". That may be a reason for the delays, or maybe not.
I don't know anything about the Americans, but quite like @bobmunro 's hypothesis. However, it does seem to point to a lack of funding if they've had to bring Americans in to fund the purchase of The Valley (not sure where that info came from, but I don't know anything to suggest that isn't the case). I can understand why that would ring alarm bells to many here.
IF it's the case that these talks lead to the Aussie/Yanks buying the club, then I'm happy to give them the benefit of the doubt, and see how it goes. But if it looks like they're struggling to make the investment that the club requires to move it forward then I'll be the first to man the barricades.
Apologies to those of you who were more skeptical (less naive?) than me, if I went over the top defending the Aussies based on very little. Olive branch extended.
Hopefully when it's all over we can get back to just enjoying the football again.74 -
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
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What happened is that the group was described to those who happened to be there when they went round. Whether the original language or the retelling of it is imprecise probably isn’t meaningful.carly burn said:I think the meet and greet at the training ground on a Sunday as championed by Airman may have been with 'POTENTIAL new owners'. Not 'THE new owners.'
Chinese whispers play a f****** huge part in a lot that goes on here.
Good to see confirmation from JW of the American angle.0 -
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son.ValleyGary said:
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.SoundAsa£ said:
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!kentaddick said:Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have.
The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me?
If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.
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Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.10 -
The most logical reason why RD has stuck with The Aussies as his preferred choice (and possibly turned away others), must be the price.Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
The Aussies must have offered the most money.
If someone offered me a few million pounds extra, I'm pretty sure I'd wait if I thought they could raise the funds.
The problem (not the only problem) has always been raising the funds that they have agreed to pay.
Whether or not at any point, they did have (thought they did have) the funds.2 -
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
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He's not on our side at all. He's infatuated with Roland.SoundAsa£ said:
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son.ValleyGary said:
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.SoundAsa£ said:
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!kentaddick said:Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have.
The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me?
If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.5 - Sponsored links:
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Don't believe this is going to happen and I think it's for the same reason it hasn't so far - the money Roland wants is way more than we as a club are worth.
Roland is stubborn and not prepared to take a hit on his pride even if it ends up costing him way more. I think his heirs will sell us, God knows where we will be by then but it won't be higher than we are now.0 -
Why make energy out of going on national radio and misleading a set of supporters that have already been through the mill multiple times. Just sit tight and see if what you have heard progresses, or if you have to be number one journo, then at least tread carefully with your information. It wasn't long ago that Roland had Jim dancing to his tune. If you act like a bellend, don't be surprise if people call you a bellend. So no, i don't think it is OTT 'old son'.SoundAsa£ said:
Gary....you’re slagging off of JW is way OTT......some of the things you are calling him are out of order old son.ValleyGary said:
Perhaps if you took more notice you'll see I've already replied to that particular comment.SoundAsa£ said:
Valley Gary in particular needs to take note IMHO!kentaddick said:Fair play to jim white, he's giving us info to the best of his knowledge and giving us national attention.
The fact people want to throw a barney on here is their own business, and, ultimately, a waste of their time and energy.
By all means point out that you don’t agree with him, you’re perfectly entitled to if that’s your take on things, but there’s no need to use the vitriolic tone and words that you have.
The guy is ostensibly on our side and there’s no need to coat him off like that....why make an enemy out of the guy, it beats me?
If nothing else, I’m sure he has our interests at heart.7 -
A deal will never get done until Roland gives up on these Aussies who have yet to put a deal together for over a year.Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding.
If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done.
I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay.
My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.
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Killerjerrylee.robinofottershaw said:
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.0 -
Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.1 -
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.0 -
Booooom the correct answer right there @Davidsmith welcome back into the gameDavidsmith said:Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
They ain’t got the money still fucking 15months later move the hell on and let someone else have a go
There are others there waiting for this to fall over hence why I believe something can happen and will happen we are just no where near done and it’s due to the continued hanging around of the Aussie group
I don’t blame jim white I feel for him to be honest he got fed dog shit info some rehashed nonsense and wasn’t sceptical enough when it was delivered to him
The training ground info was a Chinese whispers it was obvious let’s be honest why would someone be introduced as the new owners before an official announcement
It was 100% potential new owners and the potential but has been missed out
Long way to go in this
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I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.2 -
And they've even got a fish in there!Weegie Addick said:Interesting article on their IPO. Particularly like the name of the analyst!
https://google.com/amp/s/amp.smh.com.au/business/markets/atlassian-ipo-the-line-in-the-prospectus-everyone-missed-20151116-gkzp0w.html
Good old Kevin!0 -
At the next fans forum people should give his minion a harder time, not necessarily aggressive or anything but make him not want to make up rubbish again in a few months.2
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And @razil ?Covered End said:
Killerjerrylee.robinofottershaw said:
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.0 -
Said this all along.Davidsmith said:
A deal will never get done until Roland gives up on these Aussies who have yet to put a deal together for over a year.Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding.
If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done.
I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay.
My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.
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golfaddick said:
Sorry, I was wrong. On Friday I posted that JW was speaking bollox & he was being played by RD. Having just listened to that 1.40 min snippet I concur he is just plain talking bollox. Conference call from the US & Oz.......it could only happen to us. Rather have Mike Ashley if I'm honest.
"Unlocking the money" in investment terms is more likely to mean dis-investing already held assetts or waiting for certain fixed rate bonds to become available. This could mean weeks or even months.
The Aussies have been around for almost 12 months & they still don't have enough money to buy the club, let alone fund it for their magical 5 year "plan". Tell them to do one & come back when they are sensible.
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Yes.RedChaser said:
And razil?Covered End said:
Killerjerrylee.robinofottershaw said:
I cannot remember. Who here on CL is a participant in the FF with LdT?ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.0 -
Sounds about right to me from what we know.Davidsmith said:
A deal will never get done until Roland gives up on these Aussies who have yet to put a deal together for over a year.Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
His valuation is based on their negotiations, which I believe is irrelevant as they don’t have the funding.
If they do have funding then ask Lieven tomorrow why the deal has never got done.
I believe there are other real bidders waiting for a deal at the correct price, but have been put off by price Aussies supposedly agreed to pay.
My question for Lieven would be why are you wasting your time with the Aussies who clearly don’t have the funding in place.0 -
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.1 -
Fanny, are you attending the FF tomorrow or have you officially left the role and can't return ?Fanny Fanackapan said:
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.0 -
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Who is Lieven anyway?nth london addick said:
Booooom the correct answer right there @Davidsmith welcome back into the gameDavidsmith said:Airman Brown said:
Over to you, Lieven...ShootersHillGuru said:
We know that the Aussies are serious because they’ve been chipping away at this for a long time. They obviously didn’t have the means to secure the club and have at this point arrived with partners or perhaps just finance from America. Now that may collapse if the Americans pull out and then indeed we might see a long time before any group gets as close as we currently are. I would guess that should the Americans pull the plug then the Aussies might call it a day but that’s just my view. They might well seek partners elsewhere.Scoham said:
The way it's gone it could easily drag on another year.ShootersHillGuru said:I think a lot of the posts suggesting no price has been agreed, no bid on the table and not having the money are wide of the mark. FWIW I think something is going down and it’s reaching a conclusion. That’s not the same as reaching a positive conclusion because too much can go wrong at any point especially when dealing with someone like Duchatelet. I do think the two “buying” parties involved are getting their ducks in a row and it will either work out or not in the next week or so.
Tomorrow LdT will have to answer some searching questions and we might all know a lot more by midnight tomorrow. I’m keen to know if @Airman Brown is correct that RD has been turning away interest. That to me seems very odd for someone keen to find a buyer.
I doubt we’ll hear very much now until tomorrow at the FF.
They ain’t got the money still fucking 15months later move the hell on and let someone else have a go
There are others there waiting for this to fall over hence why I believe something can happen and will happen we are just no where near done and it’s due to the continued hanging around of the Aussie group
I don’t blame jim white I feel for him to be honest he got fed dog shit info some rehashed nonsense and wasn’t sceptical enough when it was delivered to him
The training ground info was a Chinese whispers it was obvious let’s be honest why would someone be introduced as the new owners before an official announcement
It was 100% potential new owners and the potential but has been missed out
Long way to go in this
What is his background, what experience does he have in valuing and selling companies?
Roland as usual employing unsuitable people to deal on his behalf.
I have been told that at least 3 seperate entities have approached Debenture holders but Aussies/Americans have never been in touch.
This has months to run.4 -
It's a big red old Dennis with 100,000 on the clock, ladders , hoses the lotFanny Fanackapan said:
New Porsche, @blackpool72 ?blackpool72 said:
I said I was meeting my dealer today.clb74 said:
Oi thought you said Saturday deal was being done todayblackpool72 said:Lieven the Turkey got slaughtered and eaten over Christmas.
JW will be standing in for him.
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