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Injury Update; Morgan, Aribo, Vetokele, 25/1/19

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Sage said:

    Extremely surprised he is playing today, I was expecting him to be involved next Monday. Even more so that Bows said they’re giving him a mini pre-season.

    Possibly get an hour into him today and see how he reacts. I don’t think he’d be involved as soon as Saturday, that would surprise me.

    seems he was subbed at H-T. I guess that's reasonable. Would also be very surprised if he is in the Saturday squad.
  • cafc_se7
    cafc_se7 Posts: 2,274
    I reckon he will be in the squad Saturday!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    possibly, but he should be reasonably fit as his shoulder would have prevented contact rather than fitness work.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    PragueAddick said:

    Sage said:

    Extremely surprised he is playing today, I was expecting him to be involved next Monday. Even more so that Bows said they’re giving him a mini pre-season.

    Possibly get an hour into him today and see how he reacts. I don’t think he’d be involved as soon as Saturday, that would surprise me.

    seems he was subbed at H-T. I guess that's reasonable. Would also be very surprised if he is in the Saturday squad.
    No way will he be playing on Saturday, especially with his fitness/injury record.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,678
    killerandflash said:

    PragueAddick said:

    Sage said:

    Extremely surprised he is playing today, I was expecting him to be involved next Monday. Even more so that Bows said they’re giving him a mini pre-season.

    Possibly get an hour into him today and see how he reacts. I don’t think he’d be involved as soon as Saturday, that would surprise me.

    seems he was subbed at H-T. I guess that's reasonable. Would also be very surprised if he is in the Saturday squad.
    No way will he be playing on Saturday, especially with his fitness/injury record.
    If we don't sign a striker by then I wouldn't be so sure
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    blackpool72 said:

    killerandflash said:

    PragueAddick said:

    Sage said:

    Extremely surprised he is playing today, I was expecting him to be involved next Monday. Even more so that Bows said they’re giving him a mini pre-season.

    Possibly get an hour into him today and see how he reacts. I don’t think he’d be involved as soon as Saturday, that would surprise me.

    seems he was subbed at H-T. I guess that's reasonable. Would also be very surprised if he is in the Saturday squad.
    No way will he be playing on Saturday, especially with his fitness/injury record.
    If we don't sign a striker by then I wouldn't be so sure
    If necessary we'd play Reeco up front by himself, play Igor before he's ready, one muscle strain later and he's out for another 2 months
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,678
    killerandflash said:

    blackpool72 said:

    killerandflash said:

    PragueAddick said:

    Sage said:

    Extremely surprised he is playing today, I was expecting him to be involved next Monday. Even more so that Bows said they’re giving him a mini pre-season.

    Possibly get an hour into him today and see how he reacts. I don’t think he’d be involved as soon as Saturday, that would surprise me.

    seems he was subbed at H-T. I guess that's reasonable. Would also be very surprised if he is in the Saturday squad.
    No way will he be playing on Saturday, especially with his fitness/injury record.
    If we don't sign a striker by then I wouldn't be so sure
    If necessary we'd play Reeco up front by himself, play Igor before he's ready, one muscle strain later and he's out for another 2 months
    In an ideal world I would agree with you 100%.
    But he played 45 minutes today and unless we bring in another striker I fully expect to see him on the bench Saturday.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    With Ventokele set to return from his injury too, that's two new strikers in the squad...
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    If KAG has gone, I’d be tempted to play Marshall and Fosu wide with Williams as a false 9.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,335
    People seem very keen to share their views as to whether Vetokele will be in the squad on Saturday. But, we're on on 30 January, remember. And no-one is making any commitment as to whose squad he might be in.
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  • Imnot Athletic
    Imnot Athletic Posts: 1,017
    Chizz said:

    People seem very keen to share their views as to whether Vetokele will be in the squad on Saturday. But, we're on on 30 January, remember. And no-one is making any commitment as to whose squad he might be in.

    Huddersfield? BOGOF
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Chizz said:

    People seem very keen to share their views as to whether Vetokele will be in the squad on Saturday. But, we're on on 30 January, remember. And no-one is making any commitment as to whose squad he might be in.

    What a dreadful loss that would be. Has he had a good game since October 2014? Enormous wages, I assume.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,170
    I swear to god, this false 9 business. I keep seeing it pop up everywhere. Spain, actual 2012 Spain, tried to use a false 9 and mostly struggled with it and reverted to using out of form strikers often because they couldn't get it working like they wanted. The false 9 is the most difficult role to use effectively. Messi's pretty good at it, but I'm not quite sure we've got players of his standard at the moment. We'd be better off playing a 12 year old striker out of the academy than trying to reinvent a new front three as roving, rotating pass and move dynamos
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,844
    Garrymanilow said:

    I swear to god, this false 9 business. I keep seeing it pop up everywhere. Spain, actual 2012 Spain, tried to use a false 9 and mostly struggled with it and reverted to using out of form strikers often because they couldn't get it working like they wanted. The false 9 is the most difficult role to use effectively. Messi's pretty good at it, but I'm not quite sure we've got players of his standard at the moment. We'd be better off playing a 12 year old striker out of the academy than trying to reinvent a new front three as roving, rotating pass and move dynamos

    Nonsense - I used to play as a false 9 when I was younger, and it was very successful according to my coach at the time.

    The coach used to say that I was brilliant at masquerading as a 9 - that's the same thing, isn't it?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    bobmunro said:

    Garrymanilow said:

    I swear to god, this false 9 business. I keep seeing it pop up everywhere. Spain, actual 2012 Spain, tried to use a false 9 and mostly struggled with it and reverted to using out of form strikers often because they couldn't get it working like they wanted. The false 9 is the most difficult role to use effectively. Messi's pretty good at it, but I'm not quite sure we've got players of his standard at the moment. We'd be better off playing a 12 year old striker out of the academy than trying to reinvent a new front three as roving, rotating pass and move dynamos

    The coach used to say that I was brilliant at masquerading as a 9 - that's the same thing, isn't it?
    We've seen a few of those at Charlton, haven't we?
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Garrymanilow said:

    I swear to god, this false 9 business. I keep seeing it pop up everywhere. Spain, actual 2012 Spain, tried to use a false 9 and mostly struggled with it and reverted to using out of form strikers often because they couldn't get it working like they wanted. The false 9 is the most difficult role to use effectively. Messi's pretty good at it, but I'm not quite sure we've got players of his standard at the moment. We'd be better off playing a 12 year old striker out of the academy than trying to reinvent a new front three as roving, rotating pass and move dynamos

    We have to have false 9s because we don't have any real ones - thanks RD.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Anybody know the latest on Lewis Page, JFC and Jason Pearce?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    edited February 2019
    seth plum said:

    Anybody know the latest on Lewis Page, JFC and Jason Pearce?

    JFC, my guess is pre-season at the earliest. Certainly not this season.

    There was a video on Instagram the other day of Pearce running on the anti-gravity treadmill. Sage will have a better idea of what that means in terms of timeline, but I'd guess another 3-4 weeks, but that's a pretty uninformed guess.

    Don't know about Page. Haven't heard anything recently.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Igor playing for under 23 today
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    ross1 said:

    Igor playing for under 23 today

    Good. I've been very worried abou the sudden acceleration of his return, but if he plays today and feels good, I'd be happier about him playing a role in the upcoming games. And I say this more in hope than expectation but a Lyle- Igor combo could work well.

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  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    edited February 2019
    Igor flying today, scored one and assisted with two more.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    edited February 2019
    eaststandmike said:

    Igor flying today, scored one and assisted with two three more.

  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Where as I feel fans see Igor through rose tinted glasses from his first half a season at Charlton, and I believe he has probably regressed (injuries not helping) to the mean since then. If we can get that version of Igor for the run in I reckon we could push for automatics.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    SDAddick said:

    seth plum said:

    Anybody know the latest on Lewis Page, JFC and Jason Pearce?

    JFC, my guess is pre-season at the earliest. Certainly not this season.

    There was a video on Instagram the other day of Pearce running on the anti-gravity treadmill. Sage will have a better idea of what that means in terms of timeline, but I'd guess another 3-4 weeks, but that's a pretty uninformed guess.

    Don't know about Page. Haven't heard anything recently.
    The what?
    Has all the trench digging spun Sparrows Lane up into space?
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5c582a44ca1b9/vetokele-ill-do-all-i-can-to-get-back-to-my-best
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    He played 90 minutes which probably puts him in contention for a start saturday. RHF is not ready.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    If he can avoid injury, it's a good opportunity for Igor to shine. Out of contract in the summer, and he won't have clubs queueing to sign him with his recent record
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    I'd like to see him, Parker and Fosu start on Saturday.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    Are you Fosu's agent Muttley? :wink:
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    MuttleyCAFC said:

    I'd like to see him, Parker and Fosu start on Saturday.

    Ditto, assuming Igor is ready (which he may not be).

    .........Cullen
    Reeves.......Jonniesta
    ...........Fosu
    ......Parker Vetokele

    It's a good front 6 on paper.

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