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Fans Forum-27/2/19- Minutes released
clive
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https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5c77c15a9271b/notes-from-last-nights-fans-forum-meetingLast night's meeting was attended by members of the Fans' Forum, the club's Head of Communications Tom Rubashow and Lieven De Turck (LDT), who is representing the club in takeover talks. The below notes were produced by the club and approved by fan representatives at the meeting. The meeting was initially set to be a full Fans’ Forum but following vandalism that took place in Belgium over the weekend the decision was made to focus on the vandalism and what had been described as a “proposal” from the club’s owner.It was agreed in the meeting the scheduled full Fans’ Forum will take place on Monday (March 4th), with the agenda points already submitted by fans and the club.Barnie Razzell (Swedish Addicks) said he wasn’t happy that the agenda for this meeting was changed at late notice. He said there were only two things the fans really cared about:• Why the takeover hasn’t happened• Why the club didn’t bring in another striker in JanuaryStrikerOn the second point Steve Clarke (CAST) asked why Lee Bowyer was able to attempt to bring in a striker on transfer deadline day but then not allowed the salary budget to sign a free agent after the transfer window had closed. LDT explained he is not involved on the footballing side. He said this is a discussion between Roland Duchatelet, Head of Recruitment Steve Gallen and Lee Bowyer. He said this is something that can be asked in next week’s Fans’ Forum.VandalismClive Harris (City Addicks) said he has contact with the Chief of Police in St Truiden. He said he knows that none of the protest groups are involved and said in his opinion no supporter of the club would draw a love heart on the wall in relation to the club (one of the pieces of graffiti that appeared). He said he could tell because of the grammar, the spelling and the style, he said it wasn’t even in the English language. CH said he’d just walked past “Roland Out” in Floyd Road and that is what would be written. CH said he thinks it isn’t something a Charlton supporter has done and therefore it isn’t relevant to a Charlton Fans' Forum.BR said he felt it was not the business of the Fans’ Forum. LDT said he wanted an open communication to inform the fans about the incident, as with all Fans’ Forum meetings he wanted correct, transparent communication.CH said there is no way a Charlton fan from the UK was involved more importantly we should not be discussing an ongoing criminal investigation. TakeoverLDT said that the previous day there had been an interview with RD on TalkSPORT and it was mentioned there would be a “proposal” to the Fans’ Forum. He explained it’s not a proposal but something the club wanted to ask the fans about.He said he has been trying to sell the club for more than a year and while a price is agreed with two parties because it hasn’t been sold he is looking to think outside the box at other options.He asked the Fans’ Forum what they would think about the EFL being offered to acquire the club. He said they would pass the EFL Fit and Proper Persons test, they understand the monthly losses as they have the financial figures of the club and they have the football know how to run it.The Fans’ Forum unanimously rejected the proposal saying it was unfeasible. They asked that Roland Duchatelet lower the asking price so that the club is sold. LDT said RD is willing to give the footballing side of the club away for free (£1 officially), this wouldn’t include the land (stadium and training ground). He said there is an issue with the ex-directors, as it would need a consensus with them as well. Ian Wallis (Bromley Addicks) said he is 100% against the club being split from the training ground/Valley. IW said “never in 1 million years”.The Fans’ Forum unanimously insisted that the football club not be separated from the stadium and training ground in any deal.LDT said there are still three parties interested in buying the club.When asked why the Australians haven’t completed the deal yet LDT said he feels the Australian group is too complex. He said he still speaks with Australians every two to three days.LDT said with the second group due diligence is done. He said they are collecting the money reserved for the takeover. He said they are serious but added that he’s been speaking to them for one year now too. LDT said it’s not as many people as the Australian consortium and he had a face-to-face meeting with them last week. He said he speaks to them once every two weeks. LDT said parties three and four (mentioned at previous Fans’ Forum meetings) are no longer around and the fifth party still have some way to go. LDT was asked if RD was taking a cut of future player sales in any of the deals. He said he wasn’t. He was asked if RD would benefit from future promotions and LDT said he would in one of the deals. BR said while he didn’t like the EFL idea, he encouraged the creativity and said keep the ideas coming. LDT said he was open to listening to creative ideas.Paul Nottage (Valley Gold) said he would like confirmation at the next meeting that LDT has asked for a new Proof of Funds from the two parties a price is agreed with.
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Thanks Clive!4
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Yawn. Same old shit then2
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The EFL buying the club?! What the hell.17
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Ian Wallis (Bromley Addicks) said he is 100% against the club being split from the training ground/Valley. IW said “never in 1 million years”.
The Fans’ Forum unanimously insisted that the football club not be separated from the stadium and training ground in any deal.
Well said @killerjerrylee Go Bromley Addicks
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzsell up and f**k off2
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Clive Harris (City Addicks) said he has contact with the Chief of Police in St Truiden. He said he knows that none of the protest groups are involved and said in his opinion no supporter of the club would draw a love heart on the wall in relation to the club (one of the pieces of graffiti that appeared). He said he could tell because of the grammar, the spelling and the style, he said it wasn’t even in the English language. CH said he’d just walked past “Roland Out” in Floyd Road and that is what would be written. CH said he thinks it isn’t something a Charlton supporter has done and therefore it isn’t relevant to a Charlton Fans' Forum.
BR said he felt it was not the business of the Fans’ Forum.
LDT said he wanted an open communication to inform the fans about the incident, as with all Fans’ Forum meetings he wanted correct, transparent communication.
CH said there is no way a Charlton fan from the UK was involved more importantly we should not be discussing an ongoing criminal investigation.
Well said @razil and @spiritof1947 Go Museum
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He asked the Fans’ Forum what they would think about the EFL being offered to acquire the club. He said they would pass the EFL Fit and Proper Persons test, they understand the monthly losses as they have the financial figures of the club and they have the football know how to run it.
Am I misunderstanding something? He suggested that Roland could sell the football part of the business TO the Football League? How the hell would that work? Or be allowed, considering conflict of interest, etc?4 -
Sorry, what? Have the Football League own the club? Would that even be allowed? Why would they? Are they interested? If it were an option why would they give a shit what we think about it anyway when they never have before? Is Roland's brain leaking out of his ear these days or something?6
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I mean the EFL buy us ? What I want is the Premier League to buy us then we can slip moody results in and win the league , there’s my proposal thinking outside the box of frogs that I am
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So RD says on talksports there are not interested parties but "LDT said there are still three parties interested in buying the club."
One or both of them are lying.
And if there are three parties why are you talking about giving the club to the EFL (which is bizarre even by Duchatelet standards).21 -
That was truly a LOL moment when I read thatWSS said:The EFL buying the club?! What the hell.
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YupHenry Irving said:So RD says on talksports there are not interested parties but "LDT said there are still three parties interested in buying the club."
One or both of them are lying.
And if there are three parties why are you talking about giving the club to the EFL (which is bizarre even by Duchatelet standards).1 -
Not convinced this has taken us any further forward. Still the same impasse.
There is only one way out - lower the price as was stated by the FF.2 -
Mmmmm......problem is do we believe LDT.....unfortunately experience says we don't. Thanks Clive and all who attended the meeting.0
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I have a strong feeling that Roland doesn't like the annualised losses that he is incurring........ running out of salable assets are we Roly?
He only cares about the P&L of this mad adventure of his....... his ideas of an exit strategy are becoming very bizarre indeed.
He need psychiatric help or divine intervention to come out of this without a serious dent to his bank balance.5 -
No comment from LDT then on Duchatelet's assertion that there were no ongoing or implied meaningful ongoing negotiations since a year ago (the Aussies). If LDT's update is accurate, why doesnt the old scrote know about what's happening?1
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Is the “selling the club to the EFL” thing a typo?
how would that even happen?
even for Roland with his Standard and St Truiden history he must see what an enormous conflict of interest that would create?3 - Sponsored links:
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Brilliant idea RD, get the EFL to buy Charlton, you couldn't make it up !
Mind you, I'm sure they could arrange for us to win all our games and we'll be back in The Premier League in no time at all.
I'm struggling to have ever heard anything so ridiculous in football.
The bloke should be sectioned.
F%$%&%g clowns.7 -
So that's it, nothing of any substance really, there was no genuine proposal, EFL and lease of ground was laughably dismissed by all present, any suggestion of splitting the ground from the club was rigorously opposed and the graffiti was refuted, mainly so we could quickly move onto the sale of the club, this remains the most pressing matter as Barnie insisting right at the start.
There is no real news but those present were unanimous in suggesting that Roland should lower his price and sell.
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#whatacrock0
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So, in 2019 the pantomime season starts even earlier than usual in SE7.
Where are the men in the white coats !0 -
They’re behind you ....Fanny Fanackapan said:So, in 2019 the pantomime season starts even earlier than usual in SE7.
Where are them en in the white coats !7 -
Cements the fact that he’s mad. I’m convinced he had a few local loons (Walloons ?) graffiti his properties. If a Hollywood actor can instigate a racially motivated attack on himself, anything’s possible.0
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How could supposedly intelligent businessmen contemplate that the governing body of a group of football clubs, responsible for rules and enforcing fairness, could possibly buy one of the clubs within its durastiction?7
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That’s probably where he got the idea from but he didn’t want to risk scuffing his duct-tape in an attempt to kick himself so bought two tins of dulux instead....alan dugdale said:Cements the fact that he’s mad. I’m convinced he had a few local loons (Walloons ?) graffiti his properties. If a Hollywood actor can instigate a racially motivated attack on himself, anything’s possible.0 -
This sounds all desperate.. Probably why the "important" bits was taken off the agenda.. as LDT must have thought "shit I have been saying 5 interested clubs and RD has buggered that line up.. What do I do now? Shit, Shit.. let's take the takover off the agenda so I can swerve that one. Well done the attendees for standing up and saying the ground andf the football club can't be split". EFL buy the club.. Strewth. they haven't got a clue !!. As you say, why are they so keen to dump the club with the EFL, yet have 2 prties involved.2
