Charlton v Sunderland final. Pros and Cons

Redvalleyeast said:

ValleyGary said:

cabbles said:

ValleyGary said:

They have McGeady who can produce a bit of magic out of nothing. Could be the difference in what will be a nervy tight game.

How would you approach it mate?  You’ve always got a good grip on this sort of stuff 

Marking McGeady or the game in general?

What foot did McGeady break? Bet it would really hurt if someone accidentally stood on it in the 1st couple of minutes next Sunday? 👼

You would certainly test it, given the opportunity, if he plays. it would be a massive risk by their manager. He doesn't strike me as a risk taker.

cabbles said:

ValleyGary said:

cabbles said:

ValleyGary said:

They have McGeady who can produce a bit of magic out of nothing. Could be the difference in what will be a nervy tight game.

How would you approach it mate?  You’ve always got a good grip on this sort of stuff 

Marking McGeady or the game in general?

The game.  Although I see there’s now a separate thread for the formation etc

Id imagine Bowyer will approach it the same as the home game against them, which i thought we dominated in spells.

Whatever he decides to do, we have to keep the ball better than Friday. Will be a hectic game, we have to have good possession otherwise that Wembley pitch will sap the life out of you.

oohaahmortimer said:

Their smallest crowd of the season was bigger than our largest crowd of the season.
their average home attendance for the season will have been more than double ours 
their average away following was 2,681ours was 984 



they owe us for 1998 the greatest ever game and the footballing gods will repay them back , nothing will ever equal or better that .

we will lose , it’s only fair , don’t be greedy 

Not a question of being 'fair' or being 'greedy' - it's the ramifications of not getting promoted that worry me. When we were 3-1 down on Friday night my boy said to 'take a look at the ground, if we lose now you probably won't see another crowd like this here in your lifetime' fortunately he was proved wrong, but you can perhaps see the point I'm trying to make. Promotion and who knows. stay where we are and not only will we lose those players on loan, but the Mad Belgian will sell off the remaining decent players and replace them with kids and loanees - and you can bet your life Bowyer, JJ etc. won't hang around.  And he still wont be able to sell the club. And the only way then is down. Sorry to piss on people's frites.

jacob_CAFC said:

addick05 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Their smallest crowd of the season was bigger than our largest crowd of the season.
their average home attendance for the season will have been more than double ours 
their average away following was 2,681ours was 984 



they owe us for 1998 the greatest ever game and the footballing gods will repay them back , nothing will ever equal or better that .

we will lose , it’s only fair , don’t be greedy 

Not a question of being 'fair' or being 'greedy' - it's the ramifications of not getting promoted that worry me. When we were 3-1 down on Friday night my boy said to 'take a look at the ground, if we lose now you probably won't see another crowd like this here in your lifetime' fortunately he was proved wrong, but you can perhaps see the point I'm trying to make. Promotion and who knows. stay where we are and not only will we lose those players on loan, but the Mad Belgian will sell off the remaining decent players and replace them with kids and loanees - and you can bet your life Bowyer, JJ etc. won't hang around.  And he still wont be able to sell the club. And the only way then is down. Sorry to piss on people's frites.

That could certainly be the case even if we do get promoted!!! I see no reason why he would suddenly start spending money if we go up

Exactly. That's why Roland needs to sell the club. Preferably as soon as possible to give the new owners a few weeks to sort out contracts and bring in fresh bodies, but I won't be holding my breath.

addick05 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Their smallest crowd of the season was bigger than our largest crowd of the season.
their average home attendance for the season will have been more than double ours 
their average away following was 2,681ours was 984 



they owe us for 1998 the greatest ever game and the footballing gods will repay them back , nothing will ever equal or better that .

we will lose , it’s only fair , don’t be greedy 

Not a question of being 'fair' or being 'greedy' - it's the ramifications of not getting promoted that worry me. When we were 3-1 down on Friday night my boy said to 'take a look at the ground, if we lose now you probably won't see another crowd like this here in your lifetime' fortunately he was proved wrong, but you can perhaps see the point I'm trying to make. Promotion and who knows. stay where we are and not only will we lose those players on loan, but the Mad Belgian will sell off the remaining decent players and replace them with kids and loanees - and you can bet your life Bowyer, JJ etc. won't hang around.  And he still wont be able to sell the club. And the only way then is down. Sorry to piss on people's frites.

Sorry but that's well OTT, things can turn around quickly for clubs. Luton plunged down into non league, now they're back in the Championship. Swansea just avoided relegation out of the league, a few years later they were in the PL and winning the League Cup.

addick05 said:

killerandflash said:

addick05 said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Their smallest crowd of the season was bigger than our largest crowd of the season.
their average home attendance for the season will have been more than double ours 
their average away following was 2,681ours was 984 



they owe us for 1998 the greatest ever game and the footballing gods will repay them back , nothing will ever equal or better that .

we will lose , it’s only fair , don’t be greedy 

Not a question of being 'fair' or being 'greedy' - it's the ramifications of not getting promoted that worry me. When we were 3-1 down on Friday night my boy said to 'take a look at the ground, if we lose now you probably won't see another crowd like this here in your lifetime' fortunately he was proved wrong, but you can perhaps see the point I'm trying to make. Promotion and who knows. stay where we are and not only will we lose those players on loan, but the Mad Belgian will sell off the remaining decent players and replace them with kids and loanees - and you can bet your life Bowyer, JJ etc. won't hang around.  And he still wont be able to sell the club. And the only way then is down. Sorry to piss on people's frites.

Sorry but that's well OTT, things can turn around quickly for clubs. Luton plunged down into non league, now they're back in the Championship. Swansea just avoided relegation out of the league, a few years later they were in the PL and winning the League Cup.

Of course the fortunes of any club can turn. However, I still maintain that ours will not while Roland is still running Charlton. Am I alone in believing this?

No, you're not.  But still, I'd rather be Shitweaseled in The Championship than Shitweaseled in League One...

ForeverAddickted said:

Bradford are the last team that I can remember who played twice at Wembley in a single EFL season, lost the first time but won the second

Shrewsbury played at Wembley twice last season and lost both times to Lincoln and Rotherham

Sunderland haven't won in their last three visits to Wembley (1990 and 1998 in the Play-Offs and 2019 in the EFL Trophy)

Lost their last 6 in a row at Wembley.

MartinCAFC said:

Pro

Previous last time I moved house was in early 2011. The first full season was 11/12 League One winners.

I moved house Feb last year. This happens to be the first full season in my current house. Promotion to come again? 

It's happened again! 

Previous house move early 2011. Promoted first full season 11/12

Moved house Feb last year and promotion sealed once more first full season after!