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Erhun Oztumer (pg.24 on loan to Bristol Rovers)

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,841
    edited July 2019
    se9addick said:
    Just trying to catch up with this one - sorry for being behind, is Oztumer a done deal?
    To me the answer is no until it's actually announced...
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited July 2019
    RH said THIS GUY was signing this week? Huh! Not bad!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    wmcf123 said:
    I thought I'd do a search back in time to CL Novemeber 2016. Swissdom described Magennis as follows: workhorse. Love him, East Stand Loopy, My hero! Never leaves anything on the pitch. Battles, scraps, chases from first whistle to the last. Chases down, and wins, balls that he has no right to get to. 

    I don't disagree he has had some terrible games where his heart just didn't look in it. Particularly, his last games for us. But there is a player in there as some of us noticed at the time. Now the question is, if he worked under a good manager like Bowyer, could he be more consistent? It is a valid question, and one which nobody should dismiss as easily as some are doing. 

    I doubt we are signing him, but if we did, I would see it as an interesting one! I know if I was a defender, I wouldn't fancy an in form Taylor and Magennis to defend against!
    What does an “in form Magennis” look like ? 
    It looks like Magennis when he was playing well for us, which did actually happen. Can't believe some people can't remember.
  • bristoladdick
    bristoladdick Posts: 1,147
    Was looking forward to his signing after the play-off final but this smacks a bit of the Ben Reeves signing - will he won't he? Hope we're not equally underwhelmed.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Was looking forward to his signing after the play-off final but this smacks a bit of the Ben Reeves signing - will he won't he? Hope we're not equally underwhelmed.
    For very different reasons
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    f f s .. this serial has gone on for longer that the Archers .. (an everyday story of countryfolk)
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    wmcf123 said:
    Robbo special anyone?

    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Lockyer, Pearce, Purrington 
    Forster-Caskey, (please god be Cullen)
    Williams, Aneke, Oztumer 
    Taylor
    Why would we want 4-2-3-1 again? It was limited and crap last time 

    If our central midfield isn't up to the job next season we won't have much choice. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited July 2019




    Oztumer and Magennis both said to have played in a behind closed doors game today.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,409
    Can’t believe it’s done for him to us if he’s playing for Bolton still
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934




    Oztumer and Magennis both said to have played in a behind closed doors game today.
    Thought he signed yesterday?
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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Ross said:
    Can’t believe it’s done for him to us if he’s playing for Bolton still
    Heaven forfend, someone made up a story 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168




    Oztumer and Magennis both said to have played in a behind closed doors game today.
    Thought he signed yesterday?
    He was going to but he has to wait for Andy Delort first as due to LVT's budget cuts Chris Parkes is only allowed one pen.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    This journo goes on to say we are interested but the Bolton administrators aren't doing business. He also says the unpaid wages are a complication in him just walking.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2019
    I am guessing that with Bolton not paying wages, this would be a breach of contract and allow players to walk and Oztumer was walking our way. Maybe there has been a complication to this! Possibly, Bolton have belatedly paid outstanding wages to some players. I don't know, but seams plausible. Maybe, they are fighting the legality of players just being able to walk away - we know the administrators want transfer fees for players still under contract. Having said that, if you don't pay them, I can't see how you can expect money for them. Maybe the legal side needs resolving one way or the other.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    I am guessing that with Bolton not paying wages, this would be a breach of contract and allow players to walk and Oztumer was walking our way. Maybe there has been a complication to this! Possibly, Bolton have belatedly paid outstanding wages to some players. I don't know, but seams plausible. Maybe, they are fighting the legality of players just being able to walk away - we know the administrators want transfer fees for players still under contract. Having said that, if you don't pay them, I can't see how you can expect money for them. Maybe the legal side needs resolving one way or the other.
    This is why I've felt that the Oztumer deal has taken much longer than needed

    I also wonder how others have managed to walk away though - i.e. Oztumer and Magennis cant have been the only two players under Contract this summer
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Maybe they have looked at players they think they can get fees for and have paid them or partially paid them.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Especially as we tried to get Oz in Jan
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I am guessing that with Bolton not paying wages, this would be a breach of contract and allow players to walk and Oztumer was walking our way. Maybe there has been a complication to this! Possibly, Bolton have belatedly paid outstanding wages to some players. I don't know, but seams plausible. Maybe, they are fighting the legality of players just being able to walk away - we know the administrators want transfer fees for players still under contract. Having said that, if you don't pay them, I can't see how you can expect money for them. Maybe the legal side needs resolving one way or the other.
    This is why I've felt that the Oztumer deal has taken much longer than needed

    I also wonder how others have managed to walk away though - i.e. Oztumer and Magennis cant have been the only two players under Contract this summer
    I think they only had 8
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    Bolton Wanderers' takeover by Football Ventures (Whites) Limited is set to be completed by the end of the week.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49072909
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,864
    Wonder what their odds are on promotion
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  • Rudders22 said:
    Wonder what their odds are on promotion
    With a hefty points deduction? Pretty good, I'd say...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Southampton only just missed out on the Play-Offs when they had their points deduction in League One... on that occasion they had a pretty strong squad and had two more points than Bolton

    Their only hindrance was the fact they had Pardew as Manager
  • Southampton only just missed out on the Play-Offs when they had their points deduction in League One... on that occasion they had a pretty strong squad and had two more points than Bolton

    Their only hindrance was the fact they had Pardew as Manager
    Their squad was ridiculous. Adam Lallana & Rickie Lambert. Especially throwing money at Fonte & Barnard in January.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    I see O’Neil played for Bolton and I’ve heard from a 100% reliable source that he is gonna be playing for millwall next season 
    on that basis Oztumer playing for them doesn’t mean he won’t sign for us if that is due to happen 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,301
    Southampton only just missed out on the Play-Offs when they had their points deduction in League One... on that occasion they had a pretty strong squad and had two more points than Bolton

    Their only hindrance was the fact they had Pardew as Manager
    Their squad was ridiculous. Adam Lallana & Rickie Lambert. Especially throwing money at Fonte & Barnard in January.
    They had Morgan Schneiderlain in that team too
  • Does seem odd that they've not been paid for months yet are playing in a pre-season friendly where they could get injured and therefore risk any potential move.
  • Think this one could run and run.
  • Strange that if we picked him up early after he breach of contract, having been in touch in January.  Say, £5k x 10 weeks is £50k.
  • What on earth does he do if the Bolton takeover and payment issue isn't resolved by 8 August?

    Does he move to another club closer to home, playing in a higher division which will mean he gets paid but potentially could mean writing off 5 months wages?

    Or does he stick with Bolton in league one, potentially not getting paid for even longer, but hopefully eventually getting his money?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2019
    5 months wages would be a lot of money. You would assume he and others have been advised they have more chance getting them by staying put for the moment. Beyond that is anybody's guess.