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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    Buyers playing the long game.

    And who can blame them. I'm sure he'll crack........ eventually!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    edited July 2019
    "Worryingly, no one can categorically say either that everytime Charlton fans annoy him in some way it doesn't make him more determined in his own mind to ensure he doesn't concede on his stance, can they?"

    And by the same token no one can say it doesn't but even you accept the fan actions "annoy" him.

    Even that is enough justification IMHO.

    As I said way, way back even before black and white scarves and before you were a member of the CARD organising group "we have no knock out punch".

    We can't do any one, single thing to remove him instantly so we have to keep jabbing away. 

    The protests here and in Belgium DID annoy him and DID get a response and he decided to sell.  That decision wasn't only about the protests but it is reasonable and evidenced to say it was a factor. We can never know for sure how much of a factor.

    Ultimately, the lack of a sale is down to the same person who caused all the mess we are in now and no one else and that is Roland Duchatelet.

    Only the irrational Duchatelet can authorise a deal, all we can do is counter his lies and keep on making his time as a "owner" as uncomfortable as possible.
    So we don't know whether whether further action will lead to him being more likely or less likely to sell.
    But we can accept that fan actions annoy him.
    So that is enough justification, just to annoy him, even though it may mean he owns us for even longer ?

    I think like AFKA I am trying to take a considered view, based on facts.
    It is an undeniable fact that every action so far has not realistically brought us closer to a sale.
    Whether further action can hasten his departure is debatable, because no one knows.
    If anyone can come up with a strategy that has a chance of hastening his departure, then I'm ready to listen and potentially support. 

    I repeat, to those that have been unable to understand what AFKA said, he did not say the protests have had no value.
    He said they have not made RD sell up and if James Seed is correct, RD has even raised the price by £7M.
    AFKA is factually correct (without nitpicking).

    The issue for all of us, is there anything we can do to hasten the sale ?
    All of the discussion re RD said, he said, she said is a load of nonsense achieving nothing.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    Always the victim it’s never his fault 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    edited July 2019
    He's beyond satire now.  He can't actually be parodied.  

    I mean, he actually wrote these words and had them published, in public, so that anyone can see them.  


  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    @Airman Brown quick question if I may.  The historic debts you suggest are related to foreign transfers, do you mean or understand they are "historic" as I pre Roland?


  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    It basically says he has given Lee a one year contract. Over to him.

    The next move is for fans to exploit the fact that the club has no CEO or Head of Finance.
    I don't know if EFL rules say there has to be a chief executive or not, but there are presumably things that are even above Cojones paygrade (it goes without saying everything is beyond his competence) so the attack should probably start there if there is a way to do it, and entree. 
    No I don't mean extras for the vol au vent gobblers.
    Is there a way to tie the club up in a major legal farrango, one that would require a response from a chief executive?
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    "Worryingly, no one can categorically say either that everytime Charlton fans annoy him in some way it doesn't make him more determined in his own mind to ensure he doesn't concede on his stance, can they?"

    And by the same token no one can say it doesn't but even you accept the fan actions "annoy" him.

    Even that is enough justification IMHO.

    As I said way, way back even before black and white scarves and before you were a member of the CARD organising group "we have no knock out punch".

    We can't do any one, single thing to remove him instantly so we have to keep jabbing away. 

    The protests here and in Belgium DID annoy him and DID get a response and he decided to sell.  That decision wasn't only about the protests but it is reasonable and evidenced to say it was a factor. We can never know for sure how much of a factor.

    Ultimately, the lack of a sale is down to the same person who caused all the mess we are in now and no one else and that is Roland Duchatelet.

    Only the irrational Duchatelet can authorise a deal, all we can do is counter his lies and keep on making his time as a "owner" as uncomfortable as possible.
    So we don't know whether whether further action will lead to him being more likely or less likely to sell.
    But we can accept that fan actions annoy him.
    So that is enough justification, just to annoy him, even though it may mean he owns us for even longer ?

    I think like AFKA I am trying to take a considered view, based on facts.
    It is an undeniable fact that every action so far has not realistically brought us closer to a sale.
    Whether further action can hasten his departure is debatable, because no one knows.
    If anyone can come up with a strategy that has a chance of hastening his departure, then I'm ready to listen and potentially support. 
    Embarrassing him can be the only way surely, hurting his ego to the point where everyone in St Truiden is laughing at him.

    A protest march along with a 6 metre Roland blimp on the way to his Melexis office like we saw with Trump and Khan and billboards of him looking like an ancient old man BR7 Addick did would both make the news and embarrass him.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    1962, Golden Wonder introduce cheese and onion crisps.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2019
    I would like to contribute a haiku. The format is in the old style being 5-7-5 syllables.

    As summer heat fades
    Hope builds for the true season 
    Trampled by the cunt

    Probably a bit inelegant the last line tbf.

    As summer heat fades
    hope builds for the true seaaon
    build our fire Addicks 


    Wembley heroes leave
    But Shitweasel is still here
    Another own goal ?

    Ps. I went for the 5-7-5 as I felt we needed to pack the Midfield.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    1962, Golden Wonder introduce cheese and onion crisps.
    I have visions that like the set up at CL Towers,  @happyvalley has a team of dynamic research analysts, painstaking beavering away 24/7 ruling out non-interest facts then whittling it down to a final selection of four. Then when the thread posts escalate towards the end of a page it creates a Davina McColl £50k drop panic as their selection panelit whittle it down to the fInal selection. 

    I will be immensely f***ed off if the lazy eejit is just lifting it from a book with minimal effort!
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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited July 2019
    Chizz said:
    What is the "hidden debt"?  

    My guess - the fee from the FA for engraving the FA Cup in 1947. 

    Anyone else..?
    Did Katrina Meire buy the Sofa on the one day of the year when there wasn't a sale on at Dfs ?
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,423
    Scoham said:
    They will claim that is the specific takeover fans forum that was promised.

    They only said update, didn’t specifically say a meeting or fans forum.
    They said 
    A takeover specific Fans’ Forum will take place ahead of the start of the season should the club not be sold by then.’ 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited July 2019
    Sounds like a Statement from Rubashaw rather than Roland

    For one its been issued on twitter

    @CAFCOfficial dont usually tweet it when its Roland
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,615
    How old is this hidden debt? Is it the reason why Zabeel walked away?
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636
    Shame he doesn't appear to have the intellect to actually rub the club properly and sold players for good money like most of the other championship clubs.

    Also a shame he doesn't realise that no one wants to pay for a stadium then have to spend a fortune on assembling an actual team to play in it.

    He is sadly deluded and we're stuck with him until he can see reality.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    seth plum said:
    It basically says he has given Lee a one year contract. Over to him.

    The next move is for fans to exploit the fact that the club has no CEO or Head of Finance.
    I don't know if EFL rules say there has to be a chief executive or not, but there are presumably things that are even above Cojones paygrade (it goes without saying everything is beyond his competence) so the attack should probably start there if there is a way to do it, and entree. 
    No I don't mean extras for the vol au vent gobblers.
    Is there a way to tie the club up in a major legal farrango, one that would require a response from a chief executive?
    A ten minute dig shows that you used to have to have a "company secretary" who could potentially also be the chief executive.  That is no longer the case.  As far as I can tell the only executive a Ltd company MUST have is 1 director. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    edited July 2019
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  • i get out of this that  we are not going to be sold until next season when we are in league 1 
  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,699
    You have to wonder about people like Rubbershoes working for Rolly Polly.

    They are made to look to look a laughing stock time after time and will be looked at as a joke by their peers.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    1962, Golden Wonder introduce cheese and onion crisps.
    They better have been in green bags
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Golden Wonder used to be the crisp company. Better than Walkers or Lays or whatever you want to call them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7vX8hBudcQ
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    I believe that protests in Belgium do bother him and do embarrass him. Will more protests there make him sell quicker? Maybe, maybe not. But I tell you something, they will sure as hell make me feel better.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited July 2019
    He seemed pretty irate when those belgians pretending to be Charlton fans, did graffiti on his property and that of his associates!

    And when the Belgian 20 interrupted him eating as we were getting stuffed by Swindon. This was the time Meire told us he watched all our games live on a stream! 
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    I believe that protests in Belgium do bother him and do embarrass him.
    Is there a single person who doesn’t think that?
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,559
    I believe that protests in Belgium do bother him and do embarrass him.
    Is there a single person who doesn’t think that?
    Don’t know, probably.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    i get out of this that  we are not going to be sold until next season when we are in league 1 
    Nope.  Because, when we're in L1, the price will go up, because we have the potential to be promoted to the Championship
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Golden Wonder used to be the crisp company. Better than Walkers or Lays or whatever you want to call them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7vX8hBudcQ
    Nah, Smiths was THE crisp until cheese and onion arrived.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    1962 The great Stuart Leary played his last game for Charlton
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,359
    It’s good of the owner to continue to pay staff and the bills.
    FFS it’s his company, dam good of him to pay his employees and his bloody bills.
     The man is delusional.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    seth plum said:
    It basically says he has given Lee a one year contract. Over to him.

    The next move is for fans to exploit the fact that the club has no CEO or Head of Finance.
    I don't know if EFL rules say there has to be a chief executive or not, but there are presumably things that are even above Cojones paygrade (it goes without saying everything is beyond his competence) so the attack should probably start there if there is a way to do it, and entree. 
    No I don't mean extras for the vol au vent gobblers.
    Is there a way to tie the club up in a major legal farrango, one that would require a response from a chief executive?
    Sorry Seth, but I thought the EFL had already said RD could run the club as he sees fit.
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