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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I hope that a couple of months from now we’re not posting about and hoping the Aussies get their act together. 
    Tbf, this current lot only showed interest a couple of weeks ago and, if the reports are to be believed,  it's only dragging because of EFL procedures.
    A very much doubt they only showed interest a few weeks ago, I imagine that's just when we found out.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I hope that a couple of months from now we’re not posting about and hoping the Aussies get their act together. 
    Tbf, this current lot only showed interest a couple of weeks ago and, if the reports are to be believed,  it's only dragging because of EFL procedures.
    A very much doubt they only showed interest a few weeks ago, I imagine that's just when we found out.
    Sure I read somewhere that their first contact was 4 weeks before it was publicly announced. 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,617
    edited December 2019
    @PragueAddick

    Re your “dark thought”. What keeps me away from too much concern about something iffy is the involvement of Tahnoon Nimer. He is so high profile in the business world of UEA and worldwide and close ally of the Sheikh that it would be madness for him to be involved in anything in the slightest way dodgy. We have had knowledgeable post by lifers that are familiar with the region that suggest that being honourable and in high standing are fundamental to the way the UAE conducts itself. 

    If there is a problem with the EFL my guess it’s to do with the source of the money. I doubt TN is either wealthy enough or daft enough to commit £100 million  of his own money to a project in football. 
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    perhaps ESI have been told to distance themselves from the man city connection and they are shuffling things about accordingly
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,143
    @ShootersHillGuru I guess that is true, if we are all sure of Mr Nimer’s status as you describe. 

    One thing that makes me uneasy is that both The Rat and Southall have in some way been involved with third party players ownership in the past. Southall worked for the “pioneer” of that lark. Having said that, i saw a rather obscure interview with Southall that was posted on a Bolton forum, wherein he seemed to be rejecting his entire time as an agent, and had moved on. Talked about too many people setting themselves up as agents to make a quick buck, and too much corruption in the business. Music to my ears, that was, of course. 

    ok I will try not to have any more dark thoughts for now...
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,157
    PragueAddick said:
    @ShootersHillGuru I guess that is true, if we are all sure of Mr Nimer’s status as you describe. 

    One thing that makes me uneasy is that both The Rat and Southall have in some way been involved with third party players ownership in the past. Southall worked for the “pioneer” of that lark. Having said that, i saw a rather obscure interview with Southall that was posted on a Bolton forum, wherein he seemed to be rejecting his entire time as an agent, and had moved on. Talked about too many people setting themselves up as agents to make a quick buck, and too much corruption in the business. Music to my ears, that was, of course. 

    ok I will try not to have any more dark thoughts for now...
    Thank FCK for that!😸
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    @PragueAddick

    Re your “dark thought”. What keeps me away from too much concern about something iffy is the involvement of Tahnoon Nimer. He is so high profile in the business world of UEA and worldwide and close ally of the Sheikh that it would be madness for him to be involved in anything in the slightest way dodgy. We have had knowledgeable post by lifers that are familiar with the region that suggest that being honourable and in high standing are fundamental to the way the UEA conducts itself. 

    If there is a problem with the EFL my guess it’s to do with the source of the money. I doubt TN is either wealthy enough or daft enough to commit £100 million  of his own money to a project in football. 
    It was a post by Red Pete I think that totally put my mind at risk, I live somewhere with a culture obsessed with 'face'  and it seems even worse in that part of the world。
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,217
    Would imagine that the EFL are almost as anxious to rid themselves of the idiocy of RD as we are, so will work towards that outcome.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,733
    edited December 2019
    PragueAddick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Henry Irving said:
    EFL statement as reported by the BBC

    @harveys_gardener

    The EFL responded to Duchatelet's statement, saying it hoped to conclude the matter "within an appropriate and reasonable timeframe".

    "The EFL has worked with the club, the current ownership and prospective new owners to ensure any change of control is achieved as quickly as is practically possible," a statement added.

    "These situations never follow a set format, are unique in nature and the EFL is reliant on the quality of information supplied as part of any submissions.

    "The League is committed to applying its regulations and ensuring the appropriate levels of due diligence are undertaken on any individuals wishing to become involved at the club.

    "Discussions remain ongoing."

    Worked really well for Bury.
    But I think that is the issue. Bury put them under unprecedented scrutiny, politicians getting involved. They have a newish CEO who probably wants to distance himself from Shaun Harvey’s regime. 

    I have a rather dark thought, based on @Airman Brown suggestion that the latest RD statement might have been prepared with ESI PR help. If that is the case it raises the spectre that RD and ESI might be happy with, but which the EFL is not. And that in turn has the unhappy implication that the EFL might be trying to protect the club, and us, from something a bit iffy.

    but like I said, just my dark thought. Overall though, I am reluctant to get on the EFL back, because I can’t see any reason at all why they would treat our case more strictly, or with less application, than anything else they’ve had to deal with. And I do say that as someone who has been to their office and met them (albeit Harvey in charge that day)
    “Help” is a bit strong. What is clear is that the statement was toned down considerably and that ESI will have known about it and not wanted it. Charlton staff could address the language if Roland didn’t have a free hand to do whatever he likes, which has been the previous position.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,565
    Dread to think what happens to us if this doesn't go through
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,210
    moutuakilla said:
    Dread to think what happens to us if this doesn't go through
    We carry on getting behind the team and not protesting as we got promoted, we're playing great football and Roland is paying the bills so all is fine.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    CAFCsayer said:
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I hope that a couple of months from now we’re not posting about and hoping the Aussies get their act together. 
    Tbf, this current lot only showed interest a couple of weeks ago and, if the reports are to be believed,  it's only dragging because of EFL procedures.
    A very much doubt they only showed interest a few weeks ago, I imagine that's just when we found out.
    Sure I read somewhere that their first contact was 4 weeks before it was publicly announced. 
    I thought I saw they had been working on it for 4 months.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,956
    I'm just guessing, but that's not stopping anyone else. In my opinion, there isn't a problem, but I can imagine the financial background of our potential new owners may be very complex indeed, so it will take time for the EFL, who are after all not a large outfit, to do satisfactory checks of the ownership structures and ultimate sources of funds in place for this transaction. 
    It's not the sort of thing that can happen overnight. I'm sure Roland's was far more straightforward than this, and the EFL will doubtless have beefed up the extent of their checks following justified recent criticism of previous sloppiness.
    It's like an MoT - if you're flogging the motor a slapdash check will do. If you're keeping it, you want to know it's been done properly. 
    Patience, people, and breathe...
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    edited December 2019
    The way I look at it, we're one day closer to a takeover #TeamWIOTOS
  • SteveKielyCambridge
    SteveKielyCambridge Posts: 219
    To be fair, it does not surprise me at all that the EFL is taking its time: they have been under so much flack of late with clubs going bust that they need to politically show they are doing their job. Plus it is getting up to Christmas and there is the general EFL hopelessness, so I am amazed that anything gets done!
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,780
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    AddicksAddict said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    We must be the most least ( is that a thing ?) transparent football club in the country . Why does everything to do with our club have to involve secrets , conjecture and innuendo ?
    @Bedsaddick yes, it's a thing, as you can be the most of anything including "least transparent" but unnecessary.  If we are "the least", that's an absolute and so doesn't need qualifying with "most".
    That's most very helpful 
    How very dare you. 
  • kidbrookeaddick
    kidbrookeaddick Posts: 1,051
    Henry Irving said:
    UPBEATS | @MattSouthall84 has just paid the Upbeats a visit at @pfshepbush, where they’ve been taking on @qprtrust’s DS team. #CAFC https://t.co/wuOeCvivHD
    In the picture, who is the guy with Southall? Noticed hes been with him at a couple of the games
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    Guy hasn't put a foot wrong so far
  • Davo55
    Davo55 Posts: 7,836
    kidbrookeaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    UPBEATS | @MattSouthall84 has just paid the Upbeats a visit at @pfshepbush, where they’ve been taking on @qprtrust’s DS team. #CAFC https://t.co/wuOeCvivHD
    In the picture, who is the guy with Southall? Noticed hes been with him at a couple of the games
    I believe that is Lee Amis, Charlton fan connected with the proposed new owners/leadership team.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,210
    kidbrookeaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    UPBEATS | @MattSouthall84 has just paid the Upbeats a visit at @pfshepbush, where they’ve been taking on @qprtrust’s DS team. #CAFC https://t.co/wuOeCvivHD
    In the picture, who is the guy with Southall? Noticed hes been with him at a couple of the games
    No idea but will give us something to find out over the next two weeks while we wait for the takeover.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    Davo55 said:
    kidbrookeaddick said:
    Henry Irving said:
    UPBEATS | @MattSouthall84 has just paid the Upbeats a visit at @pfshepbush, where they’ve been taking on @qprtrust’s DS team. #CAFC https://t.co/wuOeCvivHD
    In the picture, who is the guy with Southall? Noticed hes been with him at a couple of the games
    I believe that is Lee Amis, Charlton fan connected with the proposed new owners/leadership team.
    And a lifer  but we cant say who!;)
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    CAFCsayer said:
    Guy hasn't put a foot wrong so far

  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    i_b_b_o_r_g said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    I hope that a couple of months from now we’re not posting about and hoping the Aussies get their act together. 
    Tbf, this current lot only showed interest a couple of weeks ago and, if the reports are to be believed,  it's only dragging because of EFL procedures.
    A very much doubt they only showed interest a few weeks ago, I imagine that's just when we found out.
    Sorry, I wasn't insinuating that the day they started showing an interest was the same day it was made public mate, just that it doesn't seem they've been on the scene for very long, relatively speaking.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,799
    it’s either going all fine and Southall is doing a great thing seeing the Upbeats, or it’s cynical PR he’s rocking up there. Delete as required to suit your mood 
  • Rylo
    Rylo Posts: 860
    Rothko said:
    it’s either going all fine and Southall is doing a great thing seeing the Upbeats, or it’s cynical PR he’s rocking up there. Delete as required to suit your mood 
    Playing an absolute blinder if you ask me! Until I know otherwise, it’s all
    good stuff.👍🏻
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,205
    Rylo said:
    Rothko said:
    it’s either going all fine and Southall is doing a great thing seeing the Upbeats, or it’s cynical PR he’s rocking up there. Delete as required to suit your mood 
    Playing an absolute blinder if you ask me! Until I know otherwise, it’s all
    good stuff.👍🏻
    Does he still play in goal? 😉
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,024
    _MrDick said:
    The way I look at it, we're one day closer to a takeover #TeamWIOTOS
    I have been saying this every day since the Watford 5-0.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    I think they'll announce it Christmas eve. 


  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Come on we really need this takeover asap.
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