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New Years Honours

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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Anyway it's great to see IDS rewarded for his services to being a ****.
    There’s no question that he is one of, if not the, best in the world at that.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    bobmunro said:
    Anyway it's great to see IDS rewarded for his services to being a ****.
    There’s no question that he is one of, if not the, best in the world at that.
    And not the first to receive a gong
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    A lot don't seem to like Hamilton. This is surely unreasonable as how can you not like somebody you don't know. You can only judge him on his ability and achievements which as has been said is up there with the all time greats in his sport.
    What??? Of course you can dislike people you don’t know 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,560
    I see some bloke called George the Poet or something has turned down a gong as the British Empire did something shocking in his heritage homeland a couple of hundred years ago. And that is relevant now how? I really don’t get all this apologising for things that happened hundreds of years ago. It was a different age, different values, different way of life. Yes it happened and yes it was wrong but apologising for it hundreds of years later?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022


     ;) 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,022
    edited December 2019
    I think the real reason Hamilton hasn't got his big gong yet is probably because he isn't finished. Does anyone think there won't be more Grand Prix victories for him?  Stokes, as brilliant as he is, plays a team game, and the country he plays for is England. So that could very well be it.

    That's it, now I've upset both F1 fans and England cricket fans, I'm off out. ;)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    edited December 2019
    I see some bloke called George the Poet or something has turned down a gong as the British Empire did something shocking in his heritage homeland a couple of hundred years ago. And that is relevant now how? I really don’t get all this apologising for things that happened hundreds of years ago. It was a different age, different values, different way of life. Yes it happened and yes it was wrong but apologising for it hundreds of years later?
    He is of Ugandan origin, they only got independence 60 years ago.

    They should drop the “BE” bit of the MBE etc and replace it with something contemporary, the British Empire doesn’t exist anymore and I’m not surprised that some people don’t want to be associated with the things that went on - particularly if they were perpetrated against their parents and grandparents. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Queen is head of the Commonwealth, we have the Commonwealth Games so don't see an issue with an Order/Member/Companion of the British Commonwealth.  The Empire will not return.

    No one is asking you to apologise @LargeAddick The guy turned down the offer as is his privilege. 

    Meanwhile my MP, Bob Neil, has been knighted
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,640
    cfgs said:
    It seems one awaits another year... :-(
    Despite your marvellous achievements with this forum, yet again, it appears you have come up short yet again.

    No need to get personal.

    o:)
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    George the Poet is absolutely right. He deals in words, and the words 'British Empire' have very bad connotations. If George the Poet thinks accepting those words is not honourable it is understandable to me.
  • Midge Ure should have been knighted for Band Aid.
  • Midge Ure should have been knighted for Band Aid.
    On the basis that Geldof did...
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,207
    They appear to have missed me off the list again. 
  • Midge Ure should have been knighted for Band Aid.
    On the basis that Geldof did...


    One without the other was strange.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Lol, so everyone that got a gong had their address published. Great work by our trusted civil servants.

    Someone needs sacking for that.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    seth plum said:
    The best ones are those who refuse any suggestion of honours after getting the famous letter of 'consideration' and 'would you accept'.
    I realise that like belief in God, getting some letters after their name might make some people feel better but as far as I can tell there is no material benefit.
    At least the Poet Laureate gets £5750 plus a barrel of sherry.
    If the care workers who get an MBE also got £35,000 a year for life then the system would be improved.
    If it is about 'recognition', well high profile people like Olivia Newton John get recognition anyway.
    "The best ones"?

    I'm wary of people like that. Very wary.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Yeah. The best ones, my favourites anyway when word gets out they turned down an award.

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,845
    Each to their own. Luckily most people are grateful for some form of recognition.
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  • Greenie
    Greenie Posts: 9,172
    The only worthy recipient is WW2 D-Day vet Harry Billinge, unless you are a member of the emergency services, armed forces or have done outstanding charity work all the rest are just pointless, and renders the honours list worthless.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Yeah, but David Cameron awarded his barber an MBE in 2014, and he awarded Samantha Cameron's stylist an OBE in his resignation honours. I bet they were grateful for the recognition.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Greenie said:
    The only worthy recipient is WW2 D-Day vet Harry Billinge, unless you are a member of the emergency services, armed forces or have done outstanding charity work all the rest are just pointless, and renders the honours list worthless.
    Absolutely, for me he should have been knighted for his duty to this country and for his work getting money raised for a UK memorial on the beeches of D Day. I salute this man for all he had done!! As for IDS he is just a nasty bastard who deserves nothing! There is no comparison between the two of them one is a hero, the other an arsrhole!
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,927
    Zac  F***ing Goldsmith! I ask yer. It seems that if you are a buddy of the PM you will get a gong, no matter what a plumb you are.
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    Fuck me even an mbe is offensive now. 

    Also see the politics is creeping in again.....
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Nothing for Bowyer
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Zac  F***ing Goldsmith! I ask yer. It seems that if you are a buddy of the PM you will get a gong, no matter what a plumb you are.
    Rags to riches story.
    Classic tale.
  • MrWalker
    MrWalker Posts: 4,106
    seth plum said:
    Zac  F***ing Goldsmith! I ask yer. It seems that if you are a buddy of the PM you will get a gong, no matter what a plumb you are.
    Rags to riches story.
    Classic tale.
    Son of Tory stalwart Sir James and related to dodgy billionnaire Labour peer and stalwart, Baron (Lord) Goldsmith?
    Classic!


    The attorney general, Lord Goldsmith, a close political ally of the prime minister, is preparing to advise prosecutors on whether to bring charges in the cash for peerages inquiry, the Guardian has learned. He will be consulted by the Crown Prosecution Service, and is expected to give his views on whether charging Tony Blair, or anyone else, is in the public interest.

    Though he will not take the final decision, Lord Goldsmith's involvement has angered MPs who made the complaint.

    It has also caused anxiety among officers at Scotland Yard, who privately wonder whether he will have the courage to endorse the prosecution of the man who appointed him. They cite Ken MacDonald, the director of public prosecutions, who has declared he will take no part in the case because he is a former colleague of the prime minister's wife.

    Lord Goldsmith's relationship with Mr Blair has been under scrutiny before. The attorney general was pilloried by opposition parties over his advice on the Iraq war, which changed after he sought Mr Blair's view about whether Saddam Hussein was in breach of UN resolutions.

  • Arise Sir Roland...........................
  • Off with his head