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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Great to get the three points yesterday, but it doesn’t disguise the fact that we still desperately need reinforcements in January. 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    edited December 2019
    Taylor's key for me. I still believe that he is the single most important player I can remember at the club. I am pretty certain he will be off next month, which I am pretty gutted about, so we will need to bring in a decent 'replacement' - albeit I cannot think of anyone who would tick all of the boxes Lyle does. We desperately need the takeover to happen NOW and for the new owners to TREBLE his wages + a 3 year contract in a final bid to satisfy & keep him as their (joint) number 1 priority. The other 'joint' number one priority is to do the same with LB and (maybe) JJ.
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    edited December 2019
    meldrew66 said:
    Taylor's key for me. I still believe that he is the single most important player I can remember at the club. I am pretty certain he will be off next month, which I am pretty gutted about, so we will need to bring in a decent 'replacement' - albeit I cannot think of anyone who would tick all of the boxes Lyle does. We desperately need the takeover to happen NOW and for the new owners to TREBLE his wages + a 3 year contract in a final bid to satisfy & keep him as their (joint) number 1 priority. The other 'joint' number one priority is to do the same with LB and (maybe) JJ.
    Which is why anyone saying cash him in for 2mil are absolutely mental, it’s worth lettting him leave for free at the end of the season if it means staying up... which I’m sure we will do. 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    shine166 said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Taylor's key for me. I still believe that he is the single most important player I can remember at the club. I am pretty certain he will be off next month, which I am pretty gutted about, so we will need to bring in a decent 'replacement' - albeit I cannot think of anyone who would tick all of the boxes Lyle does. We desperately need the takeover to happen NOW and for the new owners to TREBLE his wages + a 3 year contract in a final bid to satisfy & keep him as their (joint) number 1 priority. The other 'joint' number one priority is to do the same with LB and (maybe) JJ.
    Which is why anyone saying cash him in for 2mil are absolutely mental, it’s worth lettting him leave for free at the end of the season if it means staying up... which I’m sure we will do. 
    .....agreed. The problem comes when he wants to go in January and we tell him we won’t let him go until the end of the season. I fear that will sink him mentally and we will be left with half a player. Time will tell.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    edited December 2019
    shine166 said:
    meldrew66 said:
    Taylor's key for me. I still believe that he is the single most important player I can remember at the club. I am pretty certain he will be off next month, which I am pretty gutted about, so we will need to bring in a decent 'replacement' - albeit I cannot think of anyone who would tick all of the boxes Lyle does. We desperately need the takeover to happen NOW and for the new owners to TREBLE his wages + a 3 year contract in a final bid to satisfy & keep him as their (joint) number 1 priority. The other 'joint' number one priority is to do the same with LB and (maybe) JJ.
    Which is why anyone saying cash him in for 2mil are absolutely mental, it’s worth lettting him leave for free at the end of the season if it means staying up... which I’m sure we will do. 
    Keeping a player who's focused on avoiding injury and land a lucrative move isn't going to guarantee our survival. It's not that I want him sold but I don't think it's as cut and dry as you make out.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,487
    Taylor has always put the effort in, even after the move to Brentford fell through. If we're lucky enough to keep him til the end of the season I reckon that would continue. 
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Top six April.
  • addick19
    addick19 Posts: 378
    harveys_gardener said:
    Top six April.
    I'll have some of whatever you're smoking mate!  :smiley:
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Today results help. Bottom 4 looking a little adrift now. We could do with being undefeated in our next 2 games....pref. with a win in there too. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    golfaddick said:
    Today results help. Bottom 4 looking a little adrift now. We could do with being undefeated in our next 2 games....pref. with a win in there too. 
    The next 3 games could see us muster only 3 points, that could close the gap more.

    We'll still be alright and stay up....just.
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  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    addick19 said:
    harveys_gardener said:
    Top six April.
    I'll have some of whatever you're smoking mate!  :smiley:
    Eleven points adrift with a game in hand and quality players to come back, regardless of potential takeover upgrades.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    11 points and 12 teams away from the play offs 

    7 points and 4 teams from relegation
    8 points and 6 teams from the bottom of the league .

    win tonight and the buffer should be enough 

    The teams below are all slowly closing the gap, January could see us break free or sucked in even more .
    We need reinforcements,  whether in the shape of injured players returning to full fitness or decent newbies 
    To me retaining Lyle Taylor is the number one key to our survival .
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    oohaahmortimer said:
    11 points and 12 teams away from the play offs 

    7 points and 4 teams from relegation
    8 points and 6 teams from the bottom of the league .

    win tonight and the buffer should be enough 

    The teams below are all slowly closing the gap, January could see us break free or sucked in even more .
    We need reinforcements,  whether in the shape of injured players returning to full fitness or decent newbies 
    To me retaining Lyle Taylor is the number one key to our survival .
    100%
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,229
    Changes so quick, Boro were miles behind us a few weeks ago and in terrible form. Now winning games and above us.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Last 6 form of the teams around us (from Boro down), in form order:

    Middlesbrough - form team of the league - 13 points from 18 (4W,1D,1L)
    Huddersfield - 10/16 - (3W,1D,2L)
    Barnsley - 9/16 - (2W,3D,1L)
    Stoke - 7/16 - (2W,1D,3L)
    Charlton - 5/16 - (1W, 2D, 3L)
    Wigan - 4/16 - (0W,4D,2L)
    Birmingam - 4/16 - (1W,1D,4L)
    Luton - 4/16 - (1W,1D,4L)
    Derby 3/16 - (3D, 3L)
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    Gap between 13th-14th opening up too. Win tonight and manage a half decent run over the next 10 games and we will be right amongst play off contention for the final 1/4 of the season. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,447
    We look like relegation fodder and I'm not sure how we will turn this around. Our defence looks like it will ship a lot of goals and the midfield is threadbare. 
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 817
    Desperately need a cash injection for new players or we could slip through the trap door and down 
  • AddickUpNorth
    AddickUpNorth Posts: 8,325
    You’d be seriously naive if you’re not pondering the prospect at this point in time.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    AddickUpNorth said:
    You’d be seriously naive if you’re not pondering the prospect at this point in time.
    I read a post earlier, an optimist saying we were in with a shout for the play-offs if we had won tonight.
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  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    Keep saying it but 21st will be an excellent season.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,145
    LenGlover said:
    Keep saying it but 21st will be an excellent season.
    Think its gonna be a tough ask .
    7 points and gd is good for now 
    but only 3 teams from relegation zone 
    8 points and gd from bottom 
    Only 5 teams from bottom

    Luckily in this pony league the teams aren’t that much better but we are an easy form turner for most shit teams .
    We are currently the weakest link
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,037
    oohaahmortimer said:
    LenGlover said:
    Keep saying it but 21st will be an excellent season.
    Think its gonna be a tough ask .
    7 points and gd is good for now 
    but only 3 teams from relegation zone 
    8 points and gd from bottom 
    Only 5 teams from bottom

    Luckily in this pony league the teams aren’t that much better but we are an easy form turner for most shit teams .
    We are currently the weakest link
    It's a tough ask trying understand the top half of this post!
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    All I can cling onto is the fact that we MUST be getting a few players back soon.

    Once we have Williams, Cullen, Field, JFC, Aneke & Oztumer fit then we should be able to pick up enough points to stay up. It will be squeaky bum time at times but we should have enough to get 50/55 points.
  • Ross
    Ross Posts: 4,409

    It is amazing that had we held onto the game for the last couple of minutes against Millwall, Bristol City, Huddersfield and Hull we would have 6 more points and be sitting in 14th. Conversely, hadn't we scored the late goals against QPR, West Brom and Barnsley we wouldn't have those extra 3 points.


    The fact we're 7 points above the relegation zone isn't worrying me too much yet, especially with 11 players still to come back from injury and the January transfer window a day away. However, it will take time to get them back to match fitness and integrate new players.

  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    The teams below us seem to be able to pluck 3 points out the bag more regularly than us. Annoying!
  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,166
    edited January 2020
    Not going well today 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955
    QPR winning 6-0 after 64 minutes ...... !
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited January 2020
    Wigan and Stoke both winning away from home.

    EDIT: Reading too.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,447
    People keep saying we'll be okay once players return from injury but no sign of this happening. 

    2 wins since beginning of October - 16 games. Can't see much room for optimism.

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