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VAR - are you a fan?
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Lets all not pretend we didnt need VAR last night 😂1
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Would have been 0-0 and Derby reduced to 9 men. But we'd have still lost!2121 said:Lets all not pretend we didnt need VAR last night 😂
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VAR is going nowhere, too much time and money has been spent on it now.0
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Not sure how Southampton haven't had a penalty there against Spurs. Ball hits the hand, hand is away from the body but VAR say no penalty...0
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VAR with marginal offsides needs looking at. VAR was supposed to be for clear or obvious errors and I support the general idea. VAR against Derby may have picked up the appalling red card challenge by Wisdom against Gallagher. VAR might cut out some of the professional cynical BS by Championship teams and would not be able to get away with that in the Premiership.
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If they stick with it they'll lose a shit load more, believe meDazzler21 said:VAR is going nowhere, too much time and money has been spent on it now.0 -
I hate VAR especially the ridiculous way it has been implemented in the PL. The game seems to be run by petty idiots.
The game is being ruined as a spectacle.2 -
Get rid of the offside rule - stand where you like. Keep the technology for goal/no goal decisions only.
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How VAR didn't pick up that Mark Noble kicked the ground to trip himself up I'll never know. Never a pen in my book.2
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Another cracker today (well, yesterday) in the Villa game - who seemed to have suffered at VARs hands a lot more than most.
How they chalked out Grealish's header for an offside (milimetres) in an earlier phase of play was a joke. The defending team even cleared the ball after the alleged offence.
But it's not been mentioned on here because it's just becoming the norm now. It becomes boring keep saying something is shit all the time.
Bit like our defending.3 - Sponsored links:
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An obvious use of technology to improve the game of football and avoid gross errors, cheating and corrupt officials.
Unfortunately, implemented ineptly by a bunch of non-footballing bureaucrats who couldn't organise a death in a mortuary.
One VAR appeal per team per game, reviewed by ref on the field of play with fourth official, followed by brief explanation of decision to the crowd and TV audience.
Would get rid of blatant cheating and gross errors which change the outcome of games but will only stop play for potential howlers.
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That Villa one was a joke. Problem isn’t the tech, it’s still the muppets interpreting it. There’s is no way the tech is sufficiently accurate to determine that the Villa players heal was so marginally “offside”. Is the camera definitely frozen at the exact moment the ball is struck? Is the line drawn on the pitch exactly 90 degrees to the touchlines? Are the touchlines perfectly straight and at exactly 90 degrees to the byline? Can the Villa player truly be expected to know if he is on or offside to that degree of accuracy? Answer to all those questions is no so why would we try and use it to that level of accuracy? All these disallowed goals is not really beneficial to the entertainment value of the sport.Off_it said:Another cracker today (well, yesterday) in the Villa game - who seemed to have suffered at VARs hands a lot more than most.
How they chalked out Grealish's header for an offside (milimetres) in an earlier phase of play was a joke. The defending team even cleared the ball after the alleged offence.
But it's not been mentioned on here because it's just becoming the norm now. It becomes boring keep saying something is shit all the time.
Bit like our defending.
I’d make the offside lines drawn on the pictures 6” or a foot wide and if they overlap the attacker is deemed level. If there’s daylight between the lines they’re off. That’d build in some margin of error.
I’m still in favour of giving the officials some assistance to give them a better chance of making the right call, but it’s being so badly misused I’m starting to think it should be scrapped. I suppose it was always asking too much to expect the people running football in this country to apply common sense.2 -
Starting to think? Lordy EA took you long enough. Was a farce from the off and nothing changed. Heel latest garbage decision.
Ultimately Sky coverage and the deliberate forensic focus on refs’ decisions to create controversy and fill air time has led to this. Chalk it up as another offence against supporters alongside fixture meddling, ludicrous kick off times and Jim White0 -
Off_it said:Another cracker today (well, yesterday) in the Villa game - who seemed to have suffered at VARs hands a lot more than most.
How they chalked out Grealish's header for an offside (milimetres) in an earlier phase of play was a joke. The defending team even cleared the ball after the alleged offence.
But it's not been mentioned on here because it's just becoming the norm now. It becomes boring keep saying something is shit all the time.
Bit like our defending.
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Great intervention from VAR in the Watford v Wolves game, sorting out the red card, which was about as blatant as it could be0
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I just think it should be like cricket/tennis etc that each team gets a review or 2 before the match, they use them when they want (offside or red card review etc) and lose/keep them depending on success of review. If one member of staff has a live monitor and watches the game on that alone they can have 10 seconds to press review if they arent happy. Team collective view so no one is to blame (like cricket whereby sometimes reviewed based upon bowler even though no one else thinks it's out).
The borderline offsides need to go full stop, basing it on a toe here or gelled hair there is ridiculous.1 -
I was never a fan, but was prepared to give it a chance after the 2018 World Cup. That it has been a complete shower of shyte this season is enough to convince me that my initial concerns were absolutely right. I really wish they'd scrap it and give us our game back. Sadly, I can't see that happening. The FA have invested heavily and are well under the covers with the technology companies lobbyists. The embarrassment of a u-turn will be too much for even the most stoical of the blazer boys. Instead they'll crack on with their plan to make VAR happen regardless of the costs.
They do surely need to make changes though to protect the integrity of the competition and to bring back the ecstasy of the goal scoring moment. After all, if games are decided on the whims of pixel-watchers, we may just as well watch a video game produced by their beloved EA Sports. I'd suggest the following (not all my ideas, mainly nicked for various posts above):- Amend the off-side law to restore parity to the attacking side. Clear space before there's an off-side, in just the same way that the whole of the ball has to cross the line for a goal.
- 4th official and/or dedicated VAR team only allowed to stop the game for offsides if they reckon the infringement is a foot or more (that's distance not body part). No pissing about with the odd inch or even mm here or there.
- 4th official and/or dedicated VAR team to spend their efforts stamping out the twin evils of our game: fouling and diving.
- Each team to have 1 opportunity per half to review VAR (as described by @Mortimerwasgod, above).
- Referee to personally adjudicate all VAR decisions from the side of the pitch.
- Set limit on VAR reviewing time. If it takes any longer, the appeal is lost and the original decision stands.
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VAR came about because knobhead pundits with the benefit of slow motion action replays managed to establish that a small number of decisions were wrong and banged on about endlessly. The same twats are now going on about VAR.
It's made the game worse and the decisions are frequently ludicrous.5 -
The first time a referee (Michael Oliver) has come over to look at the VAR monitor himself
And the result, a red card for Palace's Milivojevic
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Im not a fan of VAR if its not going to be used in all games in a competition
Said the same about it in the FA Cup last year too1 - Sponsored links:
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It does seem a bit odd, especially with replays where one match has VAR because it's held at a PL ground, and the other doesn'tForeverAddickted said:Im not a fan of VAR if its not going to be used in all games in a competition
Said the same about it in the FA Cup last year too0 -
Not every ground has goal line technology but it’s been used where it’s been available in the FA Cup for the last 4 or 5 years. If it’s there use it0
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This. Clough said it years ago when he said what pundits do to referees is nothing short of criminal. Of course they will make mistakes, they're human. That's football. It's been that way since the game was born. Grow up, respect refs and stop hounding them for every mistake.hoof_it_up_to_benty said:VAR came about because knobhead pundits with the benefit of slow motion action replays managed to establish that a small number of decisions were wrong and banged on about endlessly. The same twats are now going on about VAR.
It's made the game worse and the decisions are frequently ludicrous.
Now, because some people are too immature to accept the odd bad decision going against them we have this absolute shower of shit.7 -
100% agree, ive always thought, give the captains 3 calls each only. Only the captain can decide what gets reviewed!Mortimerwasgod said:I just think it should be like cricket/tennis etc that each team gets a review or 2 before the match, they use them when they want (offside or red card review etc) and lose/keep them depending on success of review. If one member of staff has a live monitor and watches the game on that alone they can have 10 seconds to press review if they arent happy. Team collective view so no one is to blame (like cricket whereby sometimes reviewed based upon bowler even though no one else thinks it's out).
The borderline offsides need to go full stop, basing it on a toe here or gelled hair there is ridiculous.Then the onous is on the team making the call And the captains teammates who have to be honest.0 -
Probably lots of flaws in that tho!0
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Using VAR for some games in the FA cup and not others is a farce.....another one.6
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As much as I wanna see West Ham go down so we get to play them next year, they have been absolutely robbed of a point today. Defender heads the ball onto your hand, what the hell are you supposed to do?!?! Letter of the law, blah blah blah, horrendous decision0
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Correct decision but horrendous law.Rossman92 said:As much as I wanna see West Ham go down so we get to play them next year, they have been absolutely robbed of a point today. Defender heads the ball onto your hand, what the hell are you supposed to do?!?! Letter of the law, blah blah blah, horrendous decision2 -
By the letter of the law, yes it is correct. Accidental handball should never have consequences like that, agreed that rule is absolute dogshiteDRAddick said:
Correct decision but horrendous law.Rossman92 said:As much as I wanna see West Ham go down so we get to play them next year, they have been absolutely robbed of a point today. Defender heads the ball onto your hand, what the hell are you supposed to do?!?! Letter of the law, blah blah blah, horrendous decision0 -
Agree, away fans go mental ( forget for a mo it’s WH) then that.
F that for football0
