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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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...maybe I'm on the wrong one?0
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You need the East Street Investments account.i_b_b_o_r_g said:...maybe I'm on the wrong one?2 -
Cheers0
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Not sure if this company has been mentioned but surely must be linked, look at the names0 -
Can't see it. Won't zoom in or open. What is it?FANnotCUSTOMER said:
Not sure if this company has been mentioned but surely must be linked, look at the names1 -
Good spot and maybe but common directorate doesn't necessarily mean that Marseille Loanco Limited is within the same group of companies. Also I believe that Michael Blood (corporate lawyer who set up ESI) has now resigned as an ESI director.FANnotCUSTOMER said:
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There's a word for people like you. You are a lattitude-isti_b_b_o_r_g said:Oh Ffs, I never realised he was a f****** northerner, what's wrong with English Chairmen?
Southall out!1 -
Do we now if the ex Director loans have been paid back?0
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Maybe in five days time we know more.KiwiValley said:Do we now if the ex Director loans have been paid back?0 -
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Typical southern equatorialianKiwiValley said:
There's a word for people like you. You are a lattitude-isti_b_b_o_r_g said:Oh Ffs, I never realised he was a f****** northerner, what's wrong with English Chairmen?
Southall out!
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Excellent post mate, and makes a lot of sense.cabbles said:I agree with the earlier comments about hungry players and the Curbs model. I know football has changed dramatically since Curbs built the team to get us out of the Championship in the late 90s, and the sorts of money footballers get these days are crazy, but there must be a way to build a competitive team without going into silly territory when it comes to the balance sheet. I mentioned the Sheff Utd and Burnley models on here before, and I think Wilder and Dyche may share some of the same values that Bowyer does as a manager. Both Dyche and Wilder seem to get players and teams that are working toward the goal of unified success as a team, as opposed to a group of talented individuals each doing their thing inconsistently.
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
Can also add Norwich to your list. I don’t believe they spent heavily before becoming champions last season. Pukki, for instance, was a free transfer.2 -
Marseille Loan Company?FANnotCUSTOMER said:
Not sure if this company has been mentioned but surely must be linked, look at the names
Dimitri Payet on loan confirmed!2 -
Yeah agreed, doesn't look like anything to do with us, likely to be just another investment Haller is working with Michael Blood with. The above will be used as an investment vehicle for Marseille Bidco Limited which will be buying something completely unrelated to us.RedChaser said:
Good spot and maybe but common directorate doesn't necessarily mean that Marseille Loanco Limited is within the same group of companies. Also I believe that Michael Blood (corporate lawyer who set up ESI) has now resigned as an ESI director.FANnotCUSTOMER said:
Not sure if this company has been mentioned but surely must be linked, look at the names1 -
I wouldn’t particularly assume so, Heller does a great deal of business with a number of companies, and Blood is one of his favoured lawyers.FANnotCUSTOMER said:
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True, good shout with Norwich. The worry for me is I look at sides like Bournemouth (I think their backer is a rich Russian), and I think if they drop out the Prem, they are coming down with a big wage bill and have spent millions on fees over the years. Granted they’ve been up in the Prem for a few seasons now, minimum £100m or whatever it is, but it just takes that one season to fall out and you’re in Stoke territory, having to get big wages off your books.stoneroses19 said:
Excellent post mate, and makes a lot of sense.cabbles said:I agree with the earlier comments about hungry players and the Curbs model. I know football has changed dramatically since Curbs built the team to get us out of the Championship in the late 90s, and the sorts of money footballers get these days are crazy, but there must be a way to build a competitive team without going into silly territory when it comes to the balance sheet. I mentioned the Sheff Utd and Burnley models on here before, and I think Wilder and Dyche may share some of the same values that Bowyer does as a manager. Both Dyche and Wilder seem to get players and teams that are working toward the goal of unified success as a team, as opposed to a group of talented individuals each doing their thing inconsistently.
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
Can also add Norwich to your list. I don’t believe they spent heavily before becoming champions last season. Pukki, for instance, was a free transfer.
it’s also for me about hoping football club owners in the Championship realise how hard a League it is to win promotion from. Derby spent £10m on Bielik to probably finish mid table, maybe just outside the play offs.2 -
Derby bought what they thought was a centre half, but is actually a defensive midfielder.cabbles said:
True, good shout with Norwich. The worry for me is I look at sides like Bournemouth (I think their backer is a rich Russian), and I think if they drop out the Prem, they are coming down with a big wage bill and have spent millions on fees over the years. Granted they’ve been up in the Prem for a few seasons now, minimum £100m or whatever it is, but it just takes that one season to fall out and you’re in Stoke territory, having to get big wages off your books.stoneroses19 said:
Excellent post mate, and makes a lot of sense.cabbles said:I agree with the earlier comments about hungry players and the Curbs model. I know football has changed dramatically since Curbs built the team to get us out of the Championship in the late 90s, and the sorts of money footballers get these days are crazy, but there must be a way to build a competitive team without going into silly territory when it comes to the balance sheet. I mentioned the Sheff Utd and Burnley models on here before, and I think Wilder and Dyche may share some of the same values that Bowyer does as a manager. Both Dyche and Wilder seem to get players and teams that are working toward the goal of unified success as a team, as opposed to a group of talented individuals each doing their thing inconsistently.
Fosu was a great example. Bowyer pretty much froze him out last season, despite the run in we had and the fact he opted for the likes of Josh Parker ahead of him. I genuinely believe that there are loads of decent gems out there that may take the step up from the lower leagues, like Lockyer & Taylor have, and you only need to combine that with a few bigger players to get success.
We probably don't want to do what Fulham did a few years ago or what Villa did last year and spend millions, because a) I don't think it fits with what our club is all about, and b) it's so risky.
I think a lot owners in football now are past the invest loads of money in the hope it gets them to the Championship, because the last few years are littered with failures, Chansiri at Sheff Wed, Notts Forest etc.
I truly believe there is a more conservative way to get success
Can also add Norwich to your list. I don’t believe they spent heavily before becoming champions last season. Pukki, for instance, was a free transfer.
it’s also for me about hoping football club owners in the Championship realise how hard a League it is to win promotion from. Derby spent £10m on Bielik to probably finish mid table, maybe just outside the play offs.
I love this league and would like to be competitive in it, but not at the risk of losing everything.
We also need to build steadily. Look at the team West Brom put out, just shows the strength, and particularly the depth, of players required to be at the top. Five year plan is reasonable. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
Three players to freshen up the squad is essential. More will be a bonus.
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Until football finances are sorted out there will always be ridiculously skewed financial risks for clubs outside of the elite who gain Premier League status and then get relegated. That’s the way football is and the big prize is still getting into the a Premier League regardless of the potential catastrophic risks.1
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Proper Charlton knowing your trains 49 minutes on the dot. Not rounding up/down saying 45 or 50 mins but bang on 49 mins.Redrobo said:
Almost a local derby via train. 49 minutes from central London.DOUCHER said:if he lives in Peterborough and matt Southall in London, given how busy Southall in particular must be this week, that does seem to hint at a bit of transfer action???
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It might not still be the case but i'm sure MacAnthony used to spend the vast majority of his time living and working in the USA. So perhaps he's meeting him after flying into London?DOUCHER said:if he lives in Peterborough and matt Southall in London, given how busy Southall in particular must be this week, that does seem to hint at a bit of transfer action???0 -
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/east-street-investments-withdraw-lucrative-contract-offer-to-lyle-taylor-and-set-to-listen-to-offers-for-charlton-athletic-striker/
ESI have confirmed they own The Valley as part of their takeover and have a commitment to buy the club’s training ground within the next six months.
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Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.1 -
Or there is some sort of complication around title or something?Chunes said:Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.2 -
Sorry Scoham hadn’t looked in here , started a thread cos I think this needed highlighting , seems very “strange” but who knowsScoham said:https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/east-street-investments-withdraw-lucrative-contract-offer-to-lyle-taylor-and-set-to-listen-to-offers-for-charlton-athletic-striker/
ESI have confirmed they own The Valley as part of their takeover and have a commitment to buy the club’s training ground within the next six months.1 -
Hope you are right. 6 months seems a bit of an odd one tho.KiwiValley said:
Or there is some sort of complication around title or something?Chunes said:Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.
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Not a six month complication.KiwiValley said:
Or there is some sort of complication around title or something?Chunes said:Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.0 -
I'm not sure we should automatically assume it's money related, it is however somewhat worrying that we no longer own our own training ground.Chunes said:Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.
As there's no actual quotes given, I'm going hold onto to the hope that londonnewsonline have this one wrong.0 -
ESI have had a direct line to them for a while now. I doubt they are wrong.Stu_of_Kunming said:
I'm not sure we should automatically assume it's money related, it is however somewhat worrying that we no longer own our own training ground.Chunes said:Six months to buy the training ground.
Haven't got that much money then.
As there's no actual quotes given, I'm going hold onto to the hope that londonnewsonline have this one wrong.1
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