Whilst Bowyer and his team have worked miracles, you would expect them to be given a chance to prove themselves to the new owners rather than get instant new deals. The important thing will be the path is clear to the new deals and those new deals ought to be pretty lucrative,
I think what is interesting to me, is the lack of leaks or people in the know with this consortium, there weren’t a whisper of this group prior to the takeover, or the player we got in on loan. They are running a very tight ship at the moment, I wonder if this will be maintained or wether reliable information will be leaked out once they get there feet under the table. To mount a bid of whatever value it turns out and not a single hint that they are interested is quiet a feat, surely the same can be said about bringing a player in on loan. Just a thought that perhaps the normal people who are normally in the know aren’t and until the new management structure sorts out who can be trusted or who will leak information then we may not hear anything, and anything else we do hear will be guesses and speculations. Mind you I could be completely wrong and I’m certainly not in the know.
I've also copied a pasted this post onto the transfer thread as it applies to both.
Some people were getting ready to storm the EFL (or at least write a strongly worded email to them) as the takeover had been "blocked" a few days ago.
In reality, it was getting done, just not instantly.
Same applies to management contracts. Offers will be made and counter offers made in reply. Eventually it will be agreed. It's a negotiation.
And it has been suggested, by Airman, that the "strange idea" was regarding Bowyer's deal.
Same applies to players. We may have made multiple bids but we have to negotiate with both the other clubs and the individual players/agents who will both be looking around to get the best deal possible. Other clubs might be after the same players. Toulouse, for example, might be waiting to see what Forest offer compared to us for Bostock. Does he even want to move to Charlton? Does Bowyer even want him.
It's all happening, Gallen will be working flat out, no doubt, in deals we haven't even heard about but there are lots of details to be sorted, lots of people need to agree, it takes time.
I don't see the benefit of leaking targets, especially in our position.. that usually comes from agents or people at the club with loose lips. Better off just getting deals done and then announcing them.
Some people were getting ready to storm the EFL (or at least write a strongly worded email to them) as the takeover had been "blocked" a few days ago.
In reality, it was getting done, just not instantly.
Same applies to management contracts. Offers will be made and counter offers made in reply. Eventually it will be agreed. It's a negotiation.
And it has been suggested, by Airman, that the "strange idea" was regarding Bowyer's deal.
Same applies to players. We may have made multiple bids but we have to negotiate with both the other clubs and the individual players/agents who will both be looking around to get the best deal possible. Other clubs might be after the same players. Toulouse, for example, might be waiting to see what Forest offer compared to us for Bostock. Does he even want to move to Charlton? Does Bowyer even want him.
It's all happening, Gallen will be working flat out, no doubt, in deals we haven't even heard about but there are lots of details to be sorted, lots of people need to agree, it takes time.
To be completely honest, I think reserve championship or league one players are Bowyers choices, here is why - Hungry, will want to prove themselves at a higher level and most importantly will fight for our club.
He isn't going to spend 5m on some established championship player if he knows his not going to get %100 from them.
If Bowyer feels that a portsmouth winger who has the desire and works hard for the team can step up and is the right player for us, then I'm %100 behind that signing.
To be completely honest, I think reserve championship or league one players are Bowyers choices, here is why - Hungry, will want to prove themselves at a higher level and most importantly will fight for our club.
He isn't going to spend 5m on some established championship player if he knows his not going to get %100 from them.
If Bowyer feels that a portsmouth winger who has the desire and works hard for the team can step up and is the right player for us, then I'm %100 behind that signing.
In SG, LB, JJ and team we trust.
PWR (in case somebody else has already made the point). Charlton, Bowyer, the fans don’t want to or can’t bring in expensive players for the simple reason that LB has built a squad of very decent players that have a fantastic team spirit. As soon as you start to bring in big money players it sends out a message to the rest of the team that they are now surplus to requirements. Bowyer and Gallen have proven that there are clearly plenty of decent players out there that we can bring in for little or sensible money who will buy into the existing team spirit and reap the financial rewards that come with earning success on the pitch.
I'm not usually one to panic and I get a bit wound up seeing the type of posts, but I am concerned.
I really thought Bowyer, Jacko and Gallens new deals would have been done and dusted by now. With the players being linked it doesn't sound all that promising. I don't expect the best players but you would have thought we may have heard of some proper names by now. Signing a Aston Villa fringe player who's record isn't all that isn't the best start?
I've seen a few people say we will get bodies in and aim to stay up and then the summer will show their true intent. I don't buy that. Relegation would be a major setback and the form we are in with the injuries we have, we are more or less nailed on. I don't believe everyone will magically come back fit and firing. It takes time. Me personally if I bought a football club, within the first 2 days I would be securing the manager the fans love for a morale boost and then be backing him. After all Lyle more or less said he wants to see what Bowyer is doing?
Maybe I'm overthinking it but I'm really not confident we will stay up if we are looking at championship reserves and league 1 players. I accepted it under RD cause it was expected but under new ownership I expect more. All this stuff about fight in a team keeping us up. A mixture of will and skill keeps teams up, not just will. We didn't get close against Swansea really and that wasn't through a lack of effort. We need players who can create those moments and put the chances away. A bunch of tryers won't keep us up
This is the most doom and gloom post i've read on here in ages!
It's been a hectic period with a game every 3 days and the team travelling to Derby and Swansea. Plus they only officially took over a few days ago.
I'm sure Southall has already said to Bowyer, Jackson and Gallen that let's get this run of games out of the way, then we'll sit down in the week. We already know Southall has met with Bowyer and that was BEFORE they took over, so what makes you think they won't get deals sorted?
As for the Aston villa fringe player, we needed an urgent replacement for Leko and he's from a premier league team with experience at this level and available now. How excited were you when we announced the signing of Gallagher, a 19 year old kid who hadn't kicked a ball in senior football? Most people including myself weren't too excited. And then we had people doing cartwheels when we signed Kayal and Hemed and look what they've done.
Thanks for your response, I would argue my post is far from the most doom and gloom post made on this thread in ages, I don't even think it makes the short list for that award.
I fully understand footballers can be good that you or I wouldn't have heard of, I haven't wrote him off. It just doesn't strike me as an ambitious signing, it's one I would have expected under Roland.
Basically I'm not sitting here sweating or losing sleep over it, just sharing my thoughts that if a week from now things are looking similar then I will start to worry a bit. We might not stay up with a couple of players signed and our returning players. It's too big a gamble and sets us back a year which would possibly see the exit of potential long term players like Lockyer and Phillips.
I'm not usually one to panic and I get a bit wound up seeing the type of posts, but I am concerned.
I really thought Bowyer, Jacko and Gallens new deals would have been done and dusted by now. With the players being linked it doesn't sound all that promising. I don't expect the best players but you would have thought we may have heard of some proper names by now. Signing a Aston Villa fringe player who's record isn't all that isn't the best start?
I've seen a few people say we will get bodies in and aim to stay up and then the summer will show their true intent. I don't buy that. Relegation would be a major setback and the form we are in with the injuries we have, we are more or less nailed on. I don't believe everyone will magically come back fit and firing. It takes time. Me personally if I bought a football club, within the first 2 days I would be securing the manager the fans love for a morale boost and then be backing him. After all Lyle more or less said he wants to see what Bowyer is doing?
Maybe I'm overthinking it but I'm really not confident we will stay up if we are looking at championship reserves and league 1 players. I accepted it under RD cause it was expected but under new ownership I expect more. All this stuff about fight in a team keeping us up. A mixture of will and skill keeps teams up, not just will. We didn't get close against Swansea really and that wasn't through a lack of effort. We need players who can create those moments and put the chances away. A bunch of tryers won't keep us up
Bloody hell. You must think they have a magic wand as well as a magic flying carpet.
1 whole working day they have been in charge, yes 1 whole working day.
To be completely honest, I think reserve championship or league one players are Bowyers choices, here is why - Hungry, will want to prove themselves at a higher level and most importantly will fight for our club.
He isn't going to spend 5m on some established championship player if he knows his not going to get %100 from them.
If Bowyer feels that a portsmouth winger who has the desire and works hard for the team can step up and is the right player for us, then I'm %100 behind that signing.
In SG, LB, JJ and team we trust.
PWR (in case somebody else has already made the point). Charlton, Bowyer, the fans don’t want to or can’t bring in expensive players for the simple reason that LB has built a squad of very decent players that have a fantastic team spirit. As soon as you start to bring in big money players it sends out a message to the rest of the team that they are now surplus to requirements. Bowyer and Gallen have proven that there are clearly plenty of decent players out there that we can bring in for little or sensible money who will buy into the existing team spirit and reap the financial rewards that come with earning success on the pitch.
I agree with this, focus on the short term initially whilst remaining aware of the longer term ideas. The bloke at Portsmouth Ronan Curtis looks the right type at the moment.
To be completely honest, I think reserve championship or league one players are Bowyers choices, here is why - Hungry, will want to prove themselves at a higher level and most importantly will fight for our club.
He isn't going to spend 5m on some established championship player if he knows his not going to get %100 from them.
If Bowyer feels that a portsmouth winger who has the desire and works hard for the team can step up and is the right player for us, then I'm %100 behind that signing.
In SG, LB, JJ and team we trust.
PWR (in case somebody else has already made the point). Charlton, Bowyer, the fans don’t want to or can’t bring in expensive players for the simple reason that LB has built a squad of very decent players that have a fantastic team spirit. As soon as you start to bring in big money players it sends out a message to the rest of the team that they are now surplus to requirements. Bowyer and Gallen have proven that there are clearly plenty of decent players out there that we can bring in for little or sensible money who will buy into the existing team spirit and reap the financial rewards that come with earning success on the pitch.
Just on that point, I think bringing in big money players can also have the opposite effect to that on the rest of the team. If existing players have a problem with big names or better players coming into a squad, then I think the probem lays with them and their attitude. I think it also means a teams ability to improve is hampered by the fact the manager can only work with the players he's got, or worse
NB. The opinion above is not relating to Charlton, just that point in general.
Oh ffs! Shut the thread. We’ve gone from arguing over who & when to now arguing over how & why? Its done. He’s gone. Start another thread about what you think about the new owners & what little they’ve done in the day they’ve had. Jaysus!
I personally think it's understandable that many Charlton folk are worried about our championship status when our points total over the last 15 games would see us 24th. Nothing to do with the size of testicles but all to do with our worse injury crisis since we became a Professional football club.
When we are putting out sides with youngsters who wouldn't have been in a 18 man squad in League 1; Houston we have a problem.
As we need to finish 21st or above its doable but not if we lose our Talismanic striker from the last 18 months and Bonne misses too many games till the end of season.
Curbishley and Murray (hero not a zero) couldn't stop our relegation because of Clive Mendonca's bad back the season after our first win in playoff final against Sunderland.
Early days in this window, but surely now the Roland list is binned and an emergency list is used to cope with the reality of our present situation.
Oh ffs! Shut the thread. We’ve gone from arguing over who & when to now arguing over how & why? Its done. He’s gone. Start another thread about what you think about the new owners & what little they’ve done in the day they’ve had. Jaysus!
I think you might be right. This thread is floundering, the sharks are circling, and we're all skating on thin ice.
Some of the posts since Thursday have been beyond silly, ESI haven’t had time to complete deals, do the contract talks with Bow, but have had time to quickly deal with the hole caused by Leko injury. Chill out, let’s see how the next few transfer windows play out
Some of the posts since Thursday have been beyond silly, ESI haven’t had time to complete deals, do the contract talks with Bow, but have had time to quickly deal with the hole caused by Leko injury. Chill out, let’s see how the next few transfer windows play out
Tahnoon Nimer has said “ Let’s make this club Great again “, he’s not stupid, he knows how much that’s going to cost. So stop all this panicking for goodness sake.
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some people need to just relax a bit and enjoy the ride
I've also copied a pasted this post onto the transfer thread as it applies to both.
Some people were getting ready to storm the EFL (or at least write a strongly worded email to them) as the takeover had been "blocked" a few days ago.
In reality, it was getting done, just not instantly.
Same applies to management contracts. Offers will be made and counter offers made in reply. Eventually it will be agreed. It's a negotiation.
And it has been suggested, by Airman, that the "strange idea" was regarding Bowyer's deal.
Same applies to players. We may have made multiple bids but we have to negotiate with both the other clubs and the individual players/agents who will both be looking around to get the best deal possible. Other clubs might be after the same players. Toulouse, for example, might be waiting to see what Forest offer compared to us for Bostock. Does he even want to move to Charlton? Does Bowyer even want him.
It's all happening, Gallen will be working flat out, no doubt, in deals we haven't even heard about but there are lots of details to be sorted, lots of people need to agree, it takes time.
Be patient.
LLLBH
He isn't going to spend 5m on some established championship player if he knows his not going to get %100 from them.
If Bowyer feels that a portsmouth winger who has the desire and works hard for the team can step up and is the right player for us, then I'm %100 behind that signing.
In SG, LB, JJ and team we trust.
PWR (in case somebody else has already made the point). Charlton, Bowyer, the fans don’t want to or can’t bring in expensive players for the simple reason that LB has built a squad of very decent players that have a fantastic team spirit. As soon as you start to bring in big money players it sends out a message to the rest of the team that they are now surplus to requirements. Bowyer and Gallen have proven that there are clearly plenty of decent players out there that we can bring in for little or sensible money who will buy into the existing team spirit and reap the financial rewards that come with earning success on the pitch.
I fully understand footballers can be good that you or I wouldn't have heard of, I haven't wrote him off. It just doesn't strike me as an ambitious signing, it's one I would have expected under Roland.
Basically I'm not sitting here sweating or losing sleep over it, just sharing my thoughts that if a week from now things are looking similar then I will start to worry a bit. We might not stay up with a couple of players signed and our returning players. It's too big a gamble and sets us back a year which would possibly see the exit of potential long term players like Lockyer and Phillips.
You must think they have a magic wand as well as a magic flying carpet.
1 whole working day they have been in charge, yes 1 whole working day.
The bloke at Portsmouth Ronan Curtis looks the right type at the moment.
NB. The opinion above is not relating to Charlton, just that point in general.
Shut the thread.
We’ve gone from arguing over who & when to now arguing over how & why?
Its done.
He’s gone.
Start another thread about what you think about the new owners & what little they’ve done in the day they’ve had.
Jaysus!
Nothing to do with the size of testicles but all to do with our worse injury crisis since we became a Professional football club.
When we are putting out sides with youngsters who wouldn't have been in a 18 man squad in League 1; Houston we have a problem.
As we need to finish 21st or above its doable but not if we lose our Talismanic striker from the last 18 months and Bonne misses too many games till the end of season.
Curbishley and Murray (hero not a zero) couldn't stop our relegation because of Clive Mendonca's bad back the season after our first win in playoff final against Sunderland.
Early days in this window, but surely now the Roland list is binned and an emergency list is used to cope with the reality of our present situation.
😉