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January 2020 transfer rumours thread (Deadline Day starts Page 283)
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I think Matt Southall is a breath of fresh air, but he can come across a bit like a kid in a sweetshop. He's clearly loving his new role in life, and wants to share his enthusiasm with the fans, ramping his coms amp up to 11.
That's absolutely fine with casual fans and followers, but is less likely to go down well with the hardcore, who are much less easily impressed.
If I was advising him I'd be saying 'just tone it down a bit, and then people will be pleasantly surprised by who we sign, rather than disappointed'.13 -
Totally agree with what you’re saying, but equally we don’t know what deals were lined up/close and the ones that haven’t happened!JamesSeed said:I think Matt Southall is a breath of fresh air, but he can come across a bit like a kid in a sweetshop. He's clearly loving his new role in life, and wants to share his enthusiasm with the fans, ramping his coms amp up to 11.
That's absolutely fine with casual fans and followers, but is less likely to go down well with the hardcore, who are much less easily impressed.
If I was advising him I'd be saying 'just tone it down a bit, and then people will be pleasantly surprised by who we sign, rather than disappointed'.This is his first transfer window , and realistically a lot hinges on it! Of course he is going I be excited , but he wants to please fans and bowyer by bringing people in!1 -
I think people are really underestimating the task ahead of us.... mid table? I’d bite your hand off for 21st and safe by a point. We got the players to gamble at achieving the bare minimum - not show promotion form which is what we would need for mid tablebillysboots said:Job Done - bodies over the line to get us to mid table.1 -
Charlton have sold their best players, especially strikers, since before I was born.Chunes said:I'm fairly happy with the signings but I don't see keeping Taylor as some kind of massive accomplishment. Selling him was unthinkable. Our Championship status is worth more than a few million quid.
You don't get brownie points for a common sense decision that anyone (including every single one of us) could see.
Big brownie points from me, writing off £3M they could have taken and most previous owners would have taken.8 -
write off the tweets by Southall has just a bit of light hearted banter on what must have been a pretty stressful couple of days for those involved. Stuff like supa dupa deal phone was nothing more than a joke. I don’t think he’ll be doing the same next January but After watching last nights interview, I think they did a good job.17
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NapaAddick said:AppyAddick said:
Really?NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Let's see in the summer.
Lot of good that will do if next summer we are back in League One.
Seriously?NapaAddick said:AppyAddick said:
Really?NapaAddick said:
When your "biggest piece of business" is not losing your best player, you know you are aiming too low, as a club.ForeverAddickted said:
Let's see in the summer.
Lot of good that will do if next summer we are back in League One.0 -
Sorry, but that's just not true.grumpyaddick said:I am not unhappy or moaning but let's be honest and admit none of our new aquisitions will make much (any) difference to whether we stay up or not but we lost our best player and another first choice starter who both scored goals (Gallagher and Leko).
Despite the hype, the bottom line is that under this ownership, the squad is significantly weaker than it was in August under Roland.
What happened to our prime targets (not Maddison, who sounds like a dick anyway) but what about Parrot and Idah and why did they not wish to join CAFC and Bowyer??
Lack of money, fear of injury, fear of league 1 ??
Our new acquisitions will 100% make a difference to whether we stay up and it's just wrong to say they won't.
As for Parrot Spurs decided they were not going to loan him and Norwich presumably felt the same re Idah.
It would be good if people checked their facts before posting critical nonsense. Sorry.5 -
What questions need to be put to Matt? Just because our owners have changed, the objective must be to survive.soapboxsam said:The Remit for Lee Bowyer in August under Duchatelet was to finish 21st or above.
What has taken most Charlton fans by Surprise after acquiring an owner from a stable in form: UAE, is the bar hasn't been raised in January.
My perception from Matt Southall after he watched every game in November was he understood the injury crisis and from
(January 2nd) would bring Green in for Leko and a loan striker as we were down to one fit striker. 29 days later and 3 loan players come in on deadline day; Wasn't our Deadline day earlier than the 31st January?
Lee Bowyer is happy now because he feels he can carry out his remit but the nagging doubts remain. Questions still need to be put to Matt, but not today.
Only blind loyalty today, as this is our first Cup final in February
i think people get a bit carried away with some of bowyers comments like we can still make the play offs and the were f’ing rich chant.New owners have not changed my expectation levels for this season. 21st or above. Next season is a different story and I expect us to be pushing for 15th, with improvements to the budget and league position every year.2 -
Pretty sure Spurs had to keep Parrott due to UEFA homegrown regulations.Covered End said:
Sorry, but that's just not true.grumpyaddick said:I am not unhappy or moaning but let's be honest and admit none of our new aquisitions will make much (any) difference to whether we stay up or not but we lost our best player and another first choice starter who both scored goals (Gallagher and Leko).
Despite the hype, the bottom line is that under this ownership, the squad is significantly weaker than it was in August under Roland.
What happened to our prime targets (not Maddison, who sounds like a dick anyway) but what about Parrot and Idah and why did they not wish to join CAFC and Bowyer??
Lack of money, fear of injury, fear of league 1 ??
Our new acquisitions will 100% make a difference to whether we stay up and it's just wrong to say they won't.
As for Parrot Spurs decided they were not going to loan him and Norwich presumably felt the same re Idah.
It would be good if people checked their facts before posting critical nonsense. Sorry.1 -
So if someone had genuinely offered you £10M last night for your house you would have said no ?clb74 said:Have a day off with this keeping Taylor lark.
His our player if a club had come in with a 10 million pound bid we wouldn't of had to sell him.2 - Sponsored links:
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Yup it was some sort of regulation about a 3 year restriction. Bostock was a problem because Toulouse wouldn’t handle the paperwork. Norwich decided to retain Idah.ValleyGary said:
Pretty sure Spurs had to keep Parrott due to UEFA homegrown regulations.Covered End said:
Sorry, but that's just not true.grumpyaddick said:I am not unhappy or moaning but let's be honest and admit none of our new aquisitions will make much (any) difference to whether we stay up or not but we lost our best player and another first choice starter who both scored goals (Gallagher and Leko).
Despite the hype, the bottom line is that under this ownership, the squad is significantly weaker than it was in August under Roland.
What happened to our prime targets (not Maddison, who sounds like a dick anyway) but what about Parrot and Idah and why did they not wish to join CAFC and Bowyer??
Lack of money, fear of injury, fear of league 1 ??
Our new acquisitions will 100% make a difference to whether we stay up and it's just wrong to say they won't.
As for Parrot Spurs decided they were not going to loan him and Norwich presumably felt the same re Idah.
It would be good if people checked their facts before posting critical nonsense. Sorry.
So nothing we could do about any of them.1 -
The play offs ?SamE7 said:DD, I've heard he is quite the handful
overall happy with that, now time to get behind the boys and help them break into the playoffs. I can't quite believe how negative some people are, it's baffling.
Just woken from a 4 month coma ? 3 -
They are more than skint and due a points deduction under FFP.HardyAddick said:Very happy with Davis. Can’t understand why Birmingham let him go - maybe a loan fee paid?
If they don't sell Bellingham or get their expenditure down the next FFP punishment would probably mean relegation.2 -
Just think what he could buy in Plymouth for that...Covered End said:
So if someone had genuinely offered you £10M last night for your house you would have said no ?clb74 said:Have a day off with this keeping Taylor lark.
His our player if a club had come in with a 10 million pound bid we wouldn't of had to sell him.3 -
I think it is the midfield where we have been most affected in our poor run. People say we need defenders, but we have decent defenders that need the support of the midfield. Likewise in attack. If we were to suffer the same injuries again, we can cover them sufficiently now IMO. We also have until the next window to persuade Lyle that his future is with us. If he does well though, I suspect a Premier League club might be willing to take a free punt despite his age.1
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A combination of the new signings and injuries coming back will add a whole new team apart from the defence.CAMSChuks Aneke backMcgeady signedOztumar backWilliams backStrikersLyle backBonne nearly backGreen signedHemed backMidfieldersCullen backField backDavis signedSmith signedSince start of jan that’s 12 new players we were without before. We will start climbing the table now.14
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Nope, deadline day is deadline day.soapboxsam said:The Remit for Lee Bowyer in August under Duchatelet was to finish 21st or above.
What has taken most Charlton fans by Surprise after acquiring an owner from a stable in form: UAE, is the bar hasn't been raised in January.
My perception from Matt Southall after he watched every game in November was he understood the injury crisis and from
(January 2nd) would bring Green in for Leko and a loan striker as we were down to one fit striker. 29 days later and 3 loan players come in on deadline day; Wasn't our Deadline day earlier than the 31st January?
Lee Bowyer is happy now because he feels he can carry out his remit but the nagging doubts remain. Questions still need to be put to Matt, but not today.
Only blind loyalty today, as this is our first Cup final in February
Clubs aren't going to say ok, we need to wait until the end of the window to see what our options are, but as you're Charlton and desperate, we'll let you have one of our players on the cheap and just take the chance it doesn't drop us in the shit.1 -
With the likes of Lockyer, Pearce, Pratley, McGeady, Davis and Taylor in a match day squad, we have the physicality to ensure we never roll over as many Charlton sides have done in the past.6
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I was slightly surprised they didn't sell Bellingham because of this, a big fee would have gone a long way towards balancing their FFP booksCovered End said:
They are more than skint and due a points deduction under FFP.HardyAddick said:Very happy with Davis. Can’t understand why Birmingham let him go - maybe a loan fee paid?
If they don't sell Bellingham or get their expenditure down the next FFP punishment would probably mean relegation.
Maybe it wouldn't have helped because it was too late for the FFP calculation0 -
I don't think it is easy to relax and assume that we will climb the table, it is going to take the blood sweat tears toil and resolve that has been characteristic of Lee Bowyer, the players and us fans over the past two years.0
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Fixed it for you.AFKABartram said:
Just think, what he could buy in Plymouth for that...Covered End said:
So if someone had genuinely offered you £10M last night for your house you would have said no ?clb74 said:Have a day off with this keeping Taylor lark.
His our player if a club had come in with a 10 million pound bid we wouldn't of had to sell him.0 -
This is true, when you get sucked in it can be difficult to pull yourself out of a relegation scrap. Three points today will be massive. A defeat and the lack of activity during January will be biting us in the bum and not letting go!0
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Just catching up on this thread with a massive hangover.
I'm pretty happy with the window as a whole. Huge disappointment to lose Conor but that was out of our control. Would have been nice to have had some bodies in earlier but I think we are in a decent position for the end of the window.
We have brought in players where we most needed it (backup for Cullen and a box-to-box midfielder) these had to be the priority after losing 2 in midfield and having such an injury crisis there.
We have also brought in Green who looks good and we may look to do what we did with Leko and play him up top. Alternatively him along with Doughty means for the first time we can play with wingers. McGeady provides more cover at the top of the diamond and also means we have the option to go 4231.
The squad has more depth and looks more rounded than before the window even if losing Conor has potentially (not sure how they will go yet) left us slightly short of quality in one midfield role.0 -
Errrm, Plymouth Argyle?AFKABartram said:
Just think what he could buy in Plymouth for that...Covered End said:
So if someone had genuinely offered you £10M last night for your house you would have said no ?clb74 said:Have a day off with this keeping Taylor lark.
His our player if a club had come in with a 10 million pound bid we wouldn't of had to sell him.1 -
Added a few. Morgan played on the right for a while against Fulham.FishCostaFortune said:Soooo
Phillips
Matthews/Solly Pearce/Deji Lockyer/Sarr Purrington
Cullen/Smith/JFC/Lapslie Davis/Pratley/Field
Green Morgan/Williams/Oztumer/Aneke Doughty/McGeady
Taylor/Bonne/Hemed
Just that right hand side without the cover. Who players there if no Green. Williams I guess?0 -
If anything he is the most essential player. Only genuine box-to-box midfielder. Cant see us playing a diamond without him tbh.Moo said:Davis is a good signing but what’s the point of Matt smith ? He won’t get much game time.0 -
It really is as simple as this.RC_CAFC said:For people wondering why we have invested in our midfield... a couple of games ago we played Vennings, Dempsey, Morgan, Gallagher and Pratley. We lost the best of these 5, one is 34 and performing out of his skin and the other 3 are no where near ready.Last game we brought back one decent midfielder against a strong Fulham side and our defence kept a clean sheet.
We have the firepower to score goals (albeit I would have liked one more attacker if I was being greedy).
Midfield was where we were losing games. Bowyer has made sure this won’t happen anymore.5 -
But who will he play instead of when everyone is fit?cantersaddick said:
If anything he is the most essential player. Only genuine box-to-box midfielder. Cant see us playing a diamond without him tbh.Moo said:Davis is a good signing but what’s the point of Matt smith ? He won’t get much game time.
If Cullen and Pratley/Davis take 2 of the midfield spaces, that still leaves Field, JFC, Williams, Green, McGeady, Doughty, Aneke, Oztumer as midfield or attacking midfield options.
If we play 4231 I can't see Smith as a first choice part of the 2 or the 3?0 -
That’s obviously why Matt Southall was happy Thursday night / Friday morning. Shame it never went through.
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