North Upper Bottle Throwing Muppet

shine166 said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Was it a flare or a smoke bomb......two very different things?

Both smoke 

They should have been in the loos then

Chizz said:

shine166 said:

SoundAsa£ said:

Was it a flare or a smoke bomb......two very different things?

Both smoke 

They should have been in the loos then

Haha ! The smoking Bogs were guarded by 2 stewards 

moutuakilla said:

Was there a smoke bomb in the west/NW upper today? Either that or we were seeing/smelling things

Lyle certainly was on 🔥 

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

Henry Irving said:

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

Nothing borderline about either

Well I guess if we're being technical the second could be seen as xenophobic but I'd agree with you. I just didn't want to get into another argument on here about the nuances of what can and can't be a racist comment. Whatever label you put on it I think we can all agree it is disgusting and towards our own players as well just baffling. 

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

FFS I thought we’d left that back in the 80s. 
How do you deal with this sort of comment though? Saying nothing feels like ‘accepting’ it. Challenging it..... hmmm.. I know I’d be too worried about the reaction to do it

Arsenetatters said:

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

FFS I thought we’d left that back in the 80s. 
How do you deal with this sort of comment though? Saying nothing feels like ‘accepting’ it. Challenging it..... hmmm.. I know I’d be too worried about the reaction to do it

Yeah have to admit I feel a bit of shame for not saying something but then like you say I was worried about the reaction as I was on my own and he had 3 or 4 mates with him. I guess I could have said something to a steward but not sure they can throw someone out just on something someone else has told them and it's not like they can watch them the whole game just in case they say something else. 

IdleHans said:

Arsenetatters said:

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

FFS I thought we’d left that back in the 80s. 
How do you deal with this sort of comment though? Saying nothing feels like ‘accepting’ it. Challenging it..... hmmm.. I know I’d be too worried about the reaction to do it

Any reason you shouldn't note the seat number and report it to the club?
And if this reply elicits the response from anyone that it's grassing, then you're part of the problem.

Spot on 

Arsenetatters said:

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

FFS I thought we’d left that back in the 80s. 
How do you deal with this sort of comment though? Saying nothing feels like ‘accepting’ it. Challenging it..... hmmm.. I know I’d be too worried about the reaction to do it

It’s on its way back isn’t it. 

colthe3rd said:

Arsenetatters said:

colthe3rd said:

jacob_CAFC said:

colthe3rd said:

Danny Addick said:

floydroadfaithfull said:

Where are we getting these knobs from
Chucking a bottle into your own fans
Needs a good hiding 

I’ve been back lately after Roland and it seems that our fan base is changing rapidly. Maybe it’s just a ‘new guard’ growing up and moving in but Jesus some of our fans are absolutely vile. I said some. Absolutely no respect for fellow supporters of the same team. Yesterday’s episode included some muppet a few rows down from us just behind bowyer shouting ‘sit down fu¥$ing idiots’ when people stood up for the penalty. 

Have to agree with this, seems to be a growing number of idiots following the team now. Guy sitting near me said some borderline racist comments during the game about our own players. 

I have to say though I don't think this is a problem only for us. There does seem to be a rise in popularity for a certain type of person and going to football again. It's probably an interesting discussion to have for another time though. 

What did the guy say

Called Oshilaja a "black c***“ and said something along the lines of Oztumer should go back to his kebab shop. 

FFS I thought we’d left that back in the 80s. 
How do you deal with this sort of comment though? Saying nothing feels like ‘accepting’ it. Challenging it..... hmmm.. I know I’d be too worried about the reaction to do it

Yeah have to admit I feel a bit of shame for not saying something but then like you say I was worried about the reaction as I was on my own and he had 3 or 4 mates with him. I guess I could have said something to a steward but not sure they can throw someone out just on something someone else has told them and it's not like they can watch them the whole game just in case they say something else. 

You’re right, I’m sure the stewards wouldn’t do anything on the say so of one person. 

Brian Cole said at least 3 times that there is a zero tolerance policy on any anti social behaviour so if the row, seat number is written down and given to the club I'm pretty sure they will do something about it.

Didn't there used to be a number you could text the block, row and seat number during the game to report and racial/offensive behaviour?

Chef_addick said:

Brian Cole said at least 3 times that there is a zero tolerance policy on any anti social behaviour so if the row, seat number is written down and given to the club I'm pretty sure they will do something about it.

Didn't there used to be a number you could text the block, row and seat number during the game to report and racial/offensive behaviour?

I've looked on the official site's Contacts section https://www.cafc.co.uk/contacts and cannot see anything relevant.

A text number as described sounds an excellent idea, but will be effective only if well publicised - on the official site, in the matchday programme, and on the big screen.  Maybe even on an info flyer on every seat one match?  It really is something which needs to be nipped in the bud before the problem grows.

It would also help if texts could be monitored during matches so that, if appropriate, stewards could be alerted to discretely monitor potential offenders, rather than just following up days later.

Maybe something for CASTrust and the Fans Forum to suggest to the club?

Like @Chef_addick I also seem to remember a phone number that people could use at the ground.

thing is with say that text number where you can report any anti social behavior, you know full well morons will use it to wind up their mates or others will use it on anyone they don't like or agree with.

Siv_in_Norfolk said:

IdleHans said:

Just copied this from the club's website, policies section.

REPORTING AN INCIDENT

If you hear or see any racist abuse at The Valley, then you can report this in a number of ways. You can contact your nearest steward in confidence at the time of the incident, or should you wish, you can contact the club to report an incident via email: fans@cafc.co.uk. Alternatively, you may contact Kick It Out on 0800 169 9414 or email info@kickitout.org.

I think a number to text would be a great additional resource and provide the anonymity which speaking to a steward might not.

It seems like a truly sensible suggestion to take to the club at a fans forum 

Or via CAST?