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Hypothetical relegation/takeover question

CAFCDB
CAFCDB Posts: 34
in General Charlton
Just out of interest... 

12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    All day long.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,253
    Yes.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Probably just, although no proof these guys are better than RD at the moment. So it's a risk to take. 
  • JaysusTheJay
    JaysusTheJay Posts: 146
    edited February 2020
    Absolutely

    The fact that we're not in the relegation zone AND have a new owner is an amzing accomplishment
  • CAFCDB
    CAFCDB Posts: 34
    Yeah I’d have to agree, relegation would be frustrating after last years hard work but getting rid of Roland was huge. Just hope there’s 3 teams lower than us when the season ends 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,048
    Of course... Sometimes you have to take a step back to take two steps forward
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,921
    No
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    I would have, yes.
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469
    Can I borrow hypothetical for the word game?
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,657
    No

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,462
    CAFCDB said:
    Just out of interest... 

    12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 
    Yes. Life isn't as short as some make out and as clubs like Sheffield and Leicester have proven, it doesn't take long to be right back up there. 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,253
    Yes , definitely , my Charlton morals were impacting on my Charlton fun time , since hes been gone I've been on piss a couple of times in centre circle lounge  , my kids are wearing up to date Charlton kits , I'm back in Valley Gold , I go in the club shop and buy shit for the kids , we can buy food and crap at Charlton again ,  family members have returned to the Charlton scene , so yes I've got my Charlton mojo back and I'm loving it no matter the pain of a potential relegation and I will do a Liam Neeson on every member of ESI if they fuck it up and don't buy the lot of the Helmet .

    We go down Sunderland go up and we come back year after even stronger ....

    We're only 50-50 to go down anyway so we can still Gloria Gaynor it 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,976
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year

    This would be the most needless relegation.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,462
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    No

    And we have not got rid of Roland have we, he still owns the heart and sole of the club 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,941
    As soon as I saw the word "hypothetical" in the thread title I just knew that it had been started by  Chizz CAFCDB. So I am now fully prepared to answer his next question which is, of course, "what makes you say that?"

    For the record, the answer is "yes"
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Dazzler21 said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
    It kind of is though. Because 12 months ago we had a half decent shot at promotion under Roland. So if we go down, we are not in a better position on the pitch than in February 2019. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,751
    eaststandmike said:
    No

    And we have not got rid of Roland have we, he still owns the heart and sole of the club 
    The heart and soul of the club is something he has never owned.
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,429
    eaststandmike said:
    No

    And we have not got rid of Roland have we, he still owns the heart and sole of the club 
    He don’t and never did, that’s you, me and us. 
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 6,015
    eaststandmike said:
    No

    And we have not got rid of Roland have we, he still owns the heart and sole of the club 
    At the moment he owns as much of Charlton as he does STVV - the Valley and traning ground. He's not gone, and if he's stll here in 6 months time he's had the last laugh. I'm reserving judgment on the new owners until then.

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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,462
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
    It kind of is though. Because 12 months ago we had a half decent shot at promotion under Roland. So if we go down, we are not in a better position on the pitch than in February 2019. 
    The question was: 
    12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 

    The question was answered in Damo's non-bold bit, the addition then changes the ask.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,976
    edited February 2020
    Dazzler21 said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
    It kind of is though. Because 12 months ago we had a half decent shot at promotion under Roland. So if we go down, we are not in a better position on the pitch than in February 2019. 
    The question was: 
    12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 

    The question was answered in Damo's non-bold bit, the addition then changes the ask.
    My answer then should have been no because there is no guarantee any new owner will have better capability to take us back up than Roland. We could be stuck there for 3-4 year at least with no prospect of going up. Even under Roland we built a strong league one side and came up....

    why go down and take uncertainty as to whether we will be capable of building a promotion team.

    We need to stay in the championship .

    my priority is championship with our new owner spending realistic championship levels of money on the team 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,406
    AFKABartram said:
    No
    this .. IF we go straight back down ESI will be off so fast they'll kick up a sandstorm behind them .. Duchatelet will still own the real estate, we'll lose the few players of real quality we have and have just a slim chance of getting out of L1 at the first try .. I'll hold out on saying we have jumped from frying pan to fire until this season is done, only then will we see.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,253
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
    It kind of is though. Because 12 months ago we had a half decent shot at promotion under Roland. So if we go down, we are not in a better position on the pitch than in February 2019. 
    The question was: 
    12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 

    The question was answered in Damo's non-bold bit, the addition then changes the ask.
    My answer then should have been no because there is no guarantee any new owner will have better capability to take us back up than Roland. We could be stuck there for 3-4 year at least with no prospect of going up. Even under Roland we built a strong league one side and came up....
    ..... after  3 seasons in League One under The Helmets ownership
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Yes, 100%
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    blackpool72 said:
    eaststandmike said:
    No

    And we have not got rid of Roland have we, he still owns the heart and sole of the club 
    The heart and soul of the club is something he has never owned.
    Maybe I am looking at from a different angle to some people. The heart & sole of the club to me is The Valley and always will be. Whilst I appreciate the fans make up a lot of it and Roland has never owned "us" The Valley is what makes me tick.

    I have watched thousands of games at The Valley and loved each one whether it was in front of a full house or 5k of us huddled on the East Terrace in the rain. The fact of the matter was, and still is The Valley is Charlton and as things stand Roland owns it.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,253
    eaststandmike said:I have watched thousands of games at The Valley
    Pedant alert *
    thousands implies a minimum of 2k with an exaggerated 25 home games a season that implies 80 seasons of watching us at The Valley minimum with ground sharing and the war I’m not sure you’re that old .....


    for the record I understand what eaststandmike is saying , we need The Valley owned not by The Helmet and I’m with him on the importance
    for the record I’ve seen millions of games at The Valley 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Dazzler21 said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    DamoNorthStand said:
    No. Success on the pitch outweighs all for me. We don’t yet have any proof that ESI have the funds to get us straight back up in one year
    That's not the question though is it.
    It kind of is though. Because 12 months ago we had a half decent shot at promotion under Roland. So if we go down, we are not in a better position on the pitch than in February 2019. 
    The question was: 
    12 months ago would you have taken promotion and resulting takeover, - but we get relegated again just to get rid of RD? 

    The question was answered in Damo's non-bold bit, the addition then changes the ask.
    Which is the same question which was asked last year, would you accept staying in League 1 to get rid of Roland. 

    Obviously we can be greedy now because we already have the promotion, we don't have Roland and we have a fighting chance of staying in the division. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,089
    If the deal included Roland still owning the Valley then I probably wouldn’t have taken it
  • CAFCDB
    CAFCDB Posts: 34
    I think we’ll have enough to stay up, which would have been the dream scenario 12 months ago. there are at least 3 teams around us with worse form, throw possible points deduction for Wednesday and derby in the mix as well. Still plenty of twists this season 

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