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Sheikh Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan
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I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -
https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
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Interfaith Happiness Conclave for Peace 2018Hosted By & Conceptualized By Tahnoon Nimer — at Al Ain City, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates:
H.H Saeed Bin Tahnoun — at Al Ain City, Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates:
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i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.0 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9QI have seen this multiple times - I don't believe he is talking about himself I think he is talking about Sheikh Tahnoon Bin Saeed Bin Tahnoon Al Nahyan company/companies.If he was CEO of over 60 companies the internet would be awash with his name. it isn't. However we find the sheikh's name associated to the industrys Nimer is talking about.
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Nimer has provided proof of funds to the EFL which has been accepted, the source of funds was allegedly blocked by Southall from reaching the EFL.77redarmy77 said:Dazzler21 said:
@AppyAddicks word that he has wealth.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?
Can he then provide visual proof of this? Nimer cant seem to.
Nimer has stated he has provided it again I believe.0 -
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.The Red Robin said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers1 -
i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.The Red Robin said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That may be the case, but surely as a Charlton fan you would want to see paperwork of that commitment?
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That's my current understanding as well and may explain why he can't prove the source of funds.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.The Red Robin said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers1 -
I think we're used to an environment were Companies House tells you loads of things, but there is still huge gaps in that data, for example there are two banks in the UK with 5m customers, but you'll be stumped to find who the VC firms are who are invested in them via CH.
Not all the answers, especially in what is essentially a feudal system where protecting the dealings of the royal family trumps everything2 -
Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
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Maybe these days in the Western World, but that was never the case in the past was it? I thought it was just, "He's worth a few bob" and that was it. These days it's all about knowing the ins and outs of a cats arse and that's what I think breeds uncertainty and anxiety.77redarmy77 said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.The Red Robin said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers
That may be the case, but surely as a Charlton fan you would want to see paperwork of that commitment?1 -
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.77redarmy77 said:Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.1 -
I'll also add, that business/government culture in the middle east is massively different then in the UK, shitballing your juniors is probably absolutely fine1
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Dazzler21 said:
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.77redarmy77 said:Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
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I agree it's unprofessional and I was shocked. He has been calmer since and has a legal team in place it seems.77redarmy77 said:Dazzler21 said:
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.77redarmy77 said:Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.
He isn't the first and won't be the last successful businessman to act like that. Doesn't make him any less successful nor capable of investing money wisely.
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Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never0
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Yep, definitely less professional than expected but he went Bat S Crazy... As time went on he got his legal team involved and has been better since. I think we saw him snap as it happened.77redarmy77 said:
he made a bit of a twit of himself prior though dont you agree? To be clear i think it was brilliant and i really like the guy, but from a business point of view it is unprofessional.Dazzler21 said:
You mean like instructing your lawyers to deal with the subject.77redarmy77 said:Another thought - I you were pending someone else's money, would you really act in such an unprofessional way? if I saw someone acting like that with my cash I would go Bat S Crazy. i would expect him to be angry if funds were being misspent, but i would want it dealt with in a legal professional manner.
Press the right buttons and even the Pope will bitch slap you.
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The description "Private Office" means it's family funds. Nimer is in the same position as a fund manager investing clients money. Doesn't mean everything TN is involved in is using private office funds.77redarmy77 said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.77redarmy77 said:I think it is very important given the latest shit we are living through to fact check all this crap - I won't waste my time with Matts crew. I'm still not convinced or have seen any evidence that Nimer has substantial wealth - Just because you work for people or associated with them doesn't mean you have the same wealth. I also can't find any mention that the family he works for wants to get into football except the young guy - which let's face it, we are now 4 levels down the ladder. how much can he have?Neither have any mention of managing family funds.
PANORAMA MAGIC GENERALCONTRACTING L.L.C. is funding the venture in Charlton and no reason to think they have access to assets which form part of the Sheikh's private wealth which is separately managed.
It looks like a private investment by TN who is relying on raising funds from third parties. MS may have given TN the impression that he could find UK investors and it's all gone pear shaped.
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The man had a big shock in finding out that someone who he had trusted had shafted him.
I don't blame the man for reacting just as any of us would, i.e going batshit crazy. He is only human, after all. I mean....just thinking about that twat Matt Southall is getting me into a bit of a psychotic rage - and it isn't my cash that he's been pissing up the wall to fund his 'look at me' lifestyle project.
Fortunately, he has deleted the posts etc. and taken legal advice, hence the change in tone.
Revenge is a dish best served cold etc.1 -
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on1 -
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Agreed. Most people lose money investing in football clubs, but not everyone. Getting to the Prem and staying there for a couple of seasons would make a nice return (unless it’s cost 150mil+ to get there).i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on0 -
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment'i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it
I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
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I disagree. It's difficult but can be done.oohaahmortimer said:
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment'i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it
I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
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Bottom line is, if there's no money to be made in football for investors, we might aswell pack up once this generation have moved on and, if that is the case, why are we bothered anyway?cafcfan1990 said:
Agreed. Most people lose money investing in football clubs, but not everyone. Getting to the Prem and staying there for a couple of seasons would make a nice return (unless it’s cost 150mil+ to get there).i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on1 -
.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term3
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I agree with a following wind and a lot of luck it can be achieved cheaper than your Wolves but more often than not it isn't , Sheffield Utd must have done it reasonably but they're the exceptioncafcfan1990 said:
I disagree. It's difficult but can be done.oohaahmortimer said:
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment'i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it
I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
Then what you do when you get there is anyones guess , I know the americans who bought in to palace were looking to sell due to the extortionate wages, transfer fees that take place once in the prem
Best bet is to try and get up cheap pocket the money oyston style and run , to get a decent profit .... which is beyond horrendous1 -
lets hope our knight in shining armour comes along and takes us away from this nightmare , with a bit of luck Nimer could be genuine and have (access to ) some real money that wants to be spent to help usi_b_b_o_r_g said:.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term2 -
In order for us to be able to trust an owner again we really need that to be what happens.oohaahmortimer said:
lets hope our knight in shining armour comes along and takes us away from this nightmare , with a bit of luck Nimer could be genuine and have (access to ) some real money that wants to be spent to help usi_b_b_o_r_g said:.....going by the start of this season, I'd say £50m for Charlton, isn't a bad investment if you put in another couple of £m over the summer. Could well be up there contending next term
I really, really want Nimer to be legit, legal and as a result the right man to take us forward for our collective sanity.3 -
It's definitely difficult, especially with the money in the Championship now. Our start got some attention because we were achieving so much on so little.oohaahmortimer said:
I agree with a following wind and a lot of luck it can be achieved cheaper than your Wolves but more often than not it isn't , Sheffield Utd must have done it reasonably but they're the exceptioncafcfan1990 said:
I disagree. It's difficult but can be done.oohaahmortimer said:
Well how they getting on raising the money for this 'investment'i_b_b_o_r_g said:
I thought that was obvious, if / when the club gets to the Premier League, no?oohaahmortimer said:Seriously on what planet does anyone think 'INVESTING' in Charlton at whatever price Roland sells at will yield any sort of return of note , how about never
But I tell yo what, why don't you come up with reasons why you poopoo everyting that anyone ever says to try and make positive sense of all this, instead of wading asking what planet they're on
i'm saying no one seems to want to take a bite at the Charlton football cherry because it's clearly overpriced and the risk reward is not worth it
I'm saying anyone wanting to invest in Charlton would be nuts and would be on a different planet to reality
I'm saying it as i see it , it takes a lot of money to get to the Prem these days and a shedload more to stay there and people don't appear to be rushing forward to have a punt .
I only say it as i see it and just because my pessimistic cautious suspicious approach to the current set up has proved right doesn't mean I'll always be right but it looked a bit obvious to me and I'm surprised more didn't see it , sorry for being right
It's not unrealistic to think our best XI this season could have been - Phillips, Matthews, Lockyer, Bauer, Purrington, Pratley, Cullen, Gallagher, Aribo, Taylor, Bonne
Ok two of those players wouldn't have been ours, but another 2/3 decent freebies, couple of loans and then say 5mil invested and we could easily have finished top 6/8.
Then what you do when you get there is anyones guess , I know the americans who bought in to palace were looking to sell due to the extortionate wages, transfer fees that take place once in the prem
Best bet is to try and get up cheap pocket the money oyston style and run , to get a decent profit .... which is beyond horrendous
We still have a few decent players but investment is desperately needed.
It's certainly becoming more and more a hobby for the rich then an investment that's for sure.
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Er, no. I invest money for my clients to make a return but I'm not worth what they invest. Currently around £15m I'd say that I have "under management". In your terms I could rock up & ask for 25% of CAFC.i_b_b_o_r_g said:
Like I said before, doesn't he manage their finances though? Not sure what the rules are out there, but doesn't he just invest thier money to make a return? Meaning, he's basically worth whatever they're willing to trust him with.The Red Robin said:i_b_b_o_r_g said:I know this has been shared a few times and doesn't mean he's worth anything, but he must have some clout, going by the video -https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q
Again though, he's there on behalf of other investors. If any money ever comes into Charlton via Nimer, I doubt it's his own.
I just think that sometimes, the internet doesn't hold the answers0
