Nimer (and Southall) on TalkSport this morning

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

Worth remembering @AppyAddick (I think it was) either has done business with or has people he trusts that have done business with Nimer and he says they believe he's a trustworthy businessman. 

Whether they've been duped too, well that's open to question. 

You are right Dazzler, I do have a friend who has done business with ADBD. He has met Nimer on a couple of occasions once to discuss investment and again to review expected performance against the given investment. 

I can't add anything other than TN was very excited about the CAFC opportunity, this was very early doors early December.

@AppyAddick i realise that you are only the messenger so please don't take this as an attempt to shoot you, or of course your buddy. But in my line of work I often needed to assess consultancy type businesses on behalf of clients, and the website was usually the start point. To me the ADBD website has a number of warning signals, namely:
1. It does not clearly tell me what exactly ADBD does, how it earns revenues
2. Its human capital (which presumably provide the services) seem to be a pretty disparate bunch. The first two, van Seventer and Hirst have been paid "consultancy fees" by CAFC, but it is not at all obvious from their bios what they might have done for their fees.
3. (and the biggest warning bell for me) is that in the list of Clients and Partners, the Western based companies shown there are giants: Shell, IBM, Maersk, Lloyds of London, HP, Coutts. But the website gives no clue whatsoever about what it does for this fairly mixed bunch of global giants. For all we learn, it may be nothing more than negotiating reduced rates at the Doha Golf Club (another client) for local execs of these companies. It is always a worry when one sees very big names listed as clients on a very modest website with a frankly vapid content.

So I wonder if there's any chance to learn more about what exactly ADBD does, and how it earns money from its activities?

All I know is that they are indeed an investment business, I wish I could give you more than that but I'm not able to answer any detail on what the investments in the organisation maybe.

But remember, there won't just be one fund here but a number of funds probably mostly fronted by money from the Royal family, to unwind all of that is going would be a real challenge. 

Sorry, but you don't KNOW any of that. It's just your supposition. Unless you yourself have dealings with ADBD & they look after your money then it's just a guess at what they actually do.

FWIW. I think ADBD are a front for TN to "dabble" with a little bit of money from a member of a Royal family (of which TN is the bastard child of). Also, TN has no real wealth of his own & just uses money "given" to him by said Royal family.....hence not being able to show source of funds. TN today moaning that he has £xxxx in his bank account & can show a statement to this effect is just more bollox. To satisfy AML laws (as has been shown earlier upthread) you need more than a flimsy bank statement showing £xxxx on any given day.

Did I say I KNEW any of that?

My opinion, you have yours, between them both we are probably right as they are basically the same thing. 

Henry Irving said:

Addickted said:

He still refuses to answer the questions on the £80k consultancy fee or his missus and the £10k fees for work on his house in Worsley.

Would that be the house in Leigh Road, Worsley that was in his and his wife's name but just before the takeover was announced was moved to be just in his wife's name?

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

Worth remembering @AppyAddick (I think it was) either has done business with or has people he trusts that have done business with Nimer and he says they believe he's a trustworthy businessman. 

Whether they've been duped too, well that's open to question. 

You are right Dazzler, I do have a friend who has done business with ADBD. He has met Nimer on a couple of occasions once to discuss investment and again to review expected performance against the given investment. 

I can't add anything other than TN was very excited about the CAFC opportunity, this was very early doors early December.

@AppyAddick i realise that you are only the messenger so please don't take this as an attempt to shoot you, or of course your buddy. But in my line of work I often needed to assess consultancy type businesses on behalf of clients, and the website was usually the start point. To me the ADBD website has a number of warning signals, namely:
1. It does not clearly tell me what exactly ADBD does, how it earns revenues
2. Its human capital (which presumably provide the services) seem to be a pretty disparate bunch. The first two, van Seventer and Hirst have been paid "consultancy fees" by CAFC, but it is not at all obvious from their bios what they might have done for their fees.
3. (and the biggest warning bell for me) is that in the list of Clients and Partners, the Western based companies shown there are giants: Shell, IBM, Maersk, Lloyds of London, HP, Coutts. But the website gives no clue whatsoever about what it does for this fairly mixed bunch of global giants. For all we learn, it may be nothing more than negotiating reduced rates at the Doha Golf Club (another client) for local execs of these companies. It is always a worry when one sees very big names listed as clients on a very modest website with a frankly vapid content.

So I wonder if there's any chance to learn more about what exactly ADBD does, and how it earns money from its activities?

All I know is that they are indeed an investment business, I wish I could give you more than that but I'm not able to answer any detail on what the investments in the organisation maybe.

But remember, there won't just be one fund here but a number of funds probably mostly fronted by money from the Royal family, to unwind all of that is going would be a real challenge. 

Sorry, but you don't KNOW any of that. It's just your supposition. Unless you yourself have dealings with ADBD & they look after your money then it's just a guess at what they actually do.

FWIW. I think ADBD are a front for TN to "dabble" with a little bit of money from a member of a Royal family (of which TN is the bastard child of). Also, TN has no real wealth of his own & just uses money "given" to him by said Royal family.....hence not being able to show source of funds. TN today moaning that he has £xxxx in his bank account & can show a statement to this effect is just more bollox. To satisfy AML laws (as has been shown earlier upthread) you need more than a flimsy bank statement showing £xxxx on any given day.

Did I say I KNEW any of that?

My opinion, you have yours, between them both we are probably right as they are basically the same thing. 

Read your first line......

"All I know is that they are indeed an investment business....."

If they are, what do they invest in & what is their Assets Under Management  (AUM).

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

Worth remembering @AppyAddick (I think it was) either has done business with or has people he trusts that have done business with Nimer and he says they believe he's a trustworthy businessman. 

Whether they've been duped too, well that's open to question. 

You are right Dazzler, I do have a friend who has done business with ADBD. He has met Nimer on a couple of occasions once to discuss investment and again to review expected performance against the given investment. 

I can't add anything other than TN was very excited about the CAFC opportunity, this was very early doors early December.

@AppyAddick i realise that you are only the messenger so please don't take this as an attempt to shoot you, or of course your buddy. But in my line of work I often needed to assess consultancy type businesses on behalf of clients, and the website was usually the start point. To me the ADBD website has a number of warning signals, namely:
1. It does not clearly tell me what exactly ADBD does, how it earns revenues
2. Its human capital (which presumably provide the services) seem to be a pretty disparate bunch. The first two, van Seventer and Hirst have been paid "consultancy fees" by CAFC, but it is not at all obvious from their bios what they might have done for their fees.
3. (and the biggest warning bell for me) is that in the list of Clients and Partners, the Western based companies shown there are giants: Shell, IBM, Maersk, Lloyds of London, HP, Coutts. But the website gives no clue whatsoever about what it does for this fairly mixed bunch of global giants. For all we learn, it may be nothing more than negotiating reduced rates at the Doha Golf Club (another client) for local execs of these companies. It is always a worry when one sees very big names listed as clients on a very modest website with a frankly vapid content.

So I wonder if there's any chance to learn more about what exactly ADBD does, and how it earns money from its activities?

All I know is that they are indeed an investment business, I wish I could give you more than that but I'm not able to answer any detail on what the investments in the organisation maybe.

But remember, there won't just be one fund here but a number of funds probably mostly fronted by money from the Royal family, to unwind all of that is going would be a real challenge. 

Sorry, but you don't KNOW any of that. It's just your supposition. Unless you yourself have dealings with ADBD & they look after your money then it's just a guess at what they actually do.

FWIW. I think ADBD are a front for TN to "dabble" with a little bit of money from a member of a Royal family (of which TN is the bastard child of). Also, TN has no real wealth of his own & just uses money "given" to him by said Royal family.....hence not being able to show source of funds. TN today moaning that he has £xxxx in his bank account & can show a statement to this effect is just more bollox. To satisfy AML laws (as has been shown earlier upthread) you need more than a flimsy bank statement showing £xxxx on any given day.

Did I say I KNEW any of that?

My opinion, you have yours, between them both we are probably right as they are basically the same thing. 

Read your first line......

"All I know is that they are indeed an investment business....."

If they are, what do they invest in & what is their Assets Under Management  (AUM).

I have a friend who has secured investment from them, not sure what's in that statement that is so hard to fathom?

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

Worth remembering @AppyAddick (I think it was) either has done business with or has people he trusts that have done business with Nimer and he says they believe he's a trustworthy businessman. 

Whether they've been duped too, well that's open to question. 

You are right Dazzler, I do have a friend who has done business with ADBD. He has met Nimer on a couple of occasions once to discuss investment and again to review expected performance against the given investment. 

I can't add anything other than TN was very excited about the CAFC opportunity, this was very early doors early December.

@AppyAddick i realise that you are only the messenger so please don't take this as an attempt to shoot you, or of course your buddy. But in my line of work I often needed to assess consultancy type businesses on behalf of clients, and the website was usually the start point. To me the ADBD website has a number of warning signals, namely:
1. It does not clearly tell me what exactly ADBD does, how it earns revenues
2. Its human capital (which presumably provide the services) seem to be a pretty disparate bunch. The first two, van Seventer and Hirst have been paid "consultancy fees" by CAFC, but it is not at all obvious from their bios what they might have done for their fees.
3. (and the biggest warning bell for me) is that in the list of Clients and Partners, the Western based companies shown there are giants: Shell, IBM, Maersk, Lloyds of London, HP, Coutts. But the website gives no clue whatsoever about what it does for this fairly mixed bunch of global giants. For all we learn, it may be nothing more than negotiating reduced rates at the Doha Golf Club (another client) for local execs of these companies. It is always a worry when one sees very big names listed as clients on a very modest website with a frankly vapid content.

So I wonder if there's any chance to learn more about what exactly ADBD does, and how it earns money from its activities?

All I know is that they are indeed an investment business, I wish I could give you more than that but I'm not able to answer any detail on what the investments in the organisation maybe.

But remember, there won't just be one fund here but a number of funds probably mostly fronted by money from the Royal family, to unwind all of that is going would be a real challenge. 

Sorry, but you don't KNOW any of that. It's just your supposition. Unless you yourself have dealings with ADBD & they look after your money then it's just a guess at what they actually do.

FWIW. I think ADBD are a front for TN to "dabble" with a little bit of money from a member of a Royal family (of which TN is the bastard child of). Also, TN has no real wealth of his own & just uses money "given" to him by said Royal family.....hence not being able to show source of funds. TN today moaning that he has £xxxx in his bank account & can show a statement to this effect is just more bollox. To satisfy AML laws (as has been shown earlier upthread) you need more than a flimsy bank statement showing £xxxx on any given day.

Did I say I KNEW any of that?

My opinion, you have yours, between them both we are probably right as they are basically the same thing. 

Read your first line......

"All I know is that they are indeed an investment business....."

If they are, what do they invest in & what is their Assets Under Management  (AUM).

I have a friend who has secured investment from them, not sure what's in that statement that is so hard to fathom?

I guess we are just trying to fathom out what kind of business ADBD is, and how it makes money. So it would be very interesting to know what kind of business your friend is in and how he came across ADBD in the first place, to know that they could provide investment funds for his kind of business. But I fully appreciate that your friend may regard that as not something he wants discussed on a football fans' forum.

https://youtu.be/6XgvIXeRS9Q

PragueAddick said:

@ I_b_b_o_r_g

Trouble is mate that video, which we have all seen, raises more questions than it answers

He repeats the assertion that he "runs" 50 plus companies. Can he seriously mean that he has executive control over all these companies? An Investment fund does not do that, it invests in a company which has its own good management. Anyway one person cannot possibly run 50 plus companies, without having a string of direct reports. There is no sign of such people, on the ADBD website, anyway. 

Then there is the question of why he does not put the names of these 50 companies on the ADBD website. Why instead does it carry the names of global companies like IBM, Shell, Maersk, etc, but without telling the world why those names are there, i.e. what ADBD does or has done for these companies?

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

golfaddick said:

AppyAddick said:

PragueAddick said:

AppyAddick said:

Dazzler21 said:

Worth remembering @AppyAddick (I think it was) either has done business with or has people he trusts that have done business with Nimer and he says they believe he's a trustworthy businessman. 

Whether they've been duped too, well that's open to question. 

You are right Dazzler, I do have a friend who has done business with ADBD. He has met Nimer on a couple of occasions once to discuss investment and again to review expected performance against the given investment. 

I can't add anything other than TN was very excited about the CAFC opportunity, this was very early doors early December.

@AppyAddick i realise that you are only the messenger so please don't take this as an attempt to shoot you, or of course your buddy. But in my line of work I often needed to assess consultancy type businesses on behalf of clients, and the website was usually the start point. To me the ADBD website has a number of warning signals, namely:
1. It does not clearly tell me what exactly ADBD does, how it earns revenues
2. Its human capital (which presumably provide the services) seem to be a pretty disparate bunch. The first two, van Seventer and Hirst have been paid "consultancy fees" by CAFC, but it is not at all obvious from their bios what they might have done for their fees.
3. (and the biggest warning bell for me) is that in the list of Clients and Partners, the Western based companies shown there are giants: Shell, IBM, Maersk, Lloyds of London, HP, Coutts. But the website gives no clue whatsoever about what it does for this fairly mixed bunch of global giants. For all we learn, it may be nothing more than negotiating reduced rates at the Doha Golf Club (another client) for local execs of these companies. It is always a worry when one sees very big names listed as clients on a very modest website with a frankly vapid content.

So I wonder if there's any chance to learn more about what exactly ADBD does, and how it earns money from its activities?

All I know is that they are indeed an investment business, I wish I could give you more than that but I'm not able to answer any detail on what the investments in the organisation maybe.

But remember, there won't just be one fund here but a number of funds probably mostly fronted by money from the Royal family, to unwind all of that is going would be a real challenge. 

Sorry, but you don't KNOW any of that. It's just your supposition. Unless you yourself have dealings with ADBD & they look after your money then it's just a guess at what they actually do.

FWIW. I think ADBD are a front for TN to "dabble" with a little bit of money from a member of a Royal family (of which TN is the bastard child of). Also, TN has no real wealth of his own & just uses money "given" to him by said Royal family.....hence not being able to show source of funds. TN today moaning that he has £xxxx in his bank account & can show a statement to this effect is just more bollox. To satisfy AML laws (as has been shown earlier upthread) you need more than a flimsy bank statement showing £xxxx on any given day.

Did I say I KNEW any of that?

My opinion, you have yours, between them both we are probably right as they are basically the same thing. 

Read your first line......

"All I know is that they are indeed an investment business....."

If they are, what do they invest in & what is their Assets Under Management  (AUM).

I have a friend who has secured investment from them, not sure what's in that statement that is so hard to fathom?

CharltonByBlood said:

Just heard from a former work colleague who works within the club. Apparently rumours floating around inside the club that Southall is more then likely going to win this whole thing and will be back at Charlton. The IPS removal was based on advice from the EFL.
Oh dear.

clive said:

More news on Charlton coming up from Jim White soon,apparently.

KentishAddick said:

CharltonByBlood said:

Just heard from a former work colleague who works within the club. Apparently rumours floating around inside the club that Southall is more then likely going to win this whole thing and will be back at Charlton. The IPS removal was based on advice from the EFL.
Oh dear.

I know he rates himself highly, but surely even he can see he has no future at the club