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ESI 1 v ESI 2 - Initial Hearing 01-02/09/2020, Court of Appeal 17/09/2020 (p127)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,815
    I hope this CAST lawyer is the nuts otherwise we've got months more of this shit and i don't think i can be arsed anymore. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    Really hope that Sandgaard knew was LK's strategy was for him to be optimistic
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited September 2020
    peterreeves said:
    MM ain't looking to rosy is he!

    Feels like fcuking amateur hour! 
    He talks a good game - but the reality is he is no better than the rest of them. Been surprised that so many took to him tbh.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,507
    It is all about who gets to sell the shares to TS I think.
    Unless Farnell has another chancer in the cupboard.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,782
    Those months could a cost us promotion and b cost us our buyer which in turn could cost us our club!
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,615
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Chaisty: the EFL said on Aug 7th that the agreement was not conditional (as Mihail asserts) and that Elliott's application was rejected due to claims he mislead the EFL. #cafc #SaveCAFC
    As worded there, that looks like a bit of sleight of hand. Surely EFL weren't ruling that the agreement was not conditional, just saying they'd been told it wasn't? Who told them that?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    Chaisty exploring possibility of Lex Dominus selling shares on. Says that is their right if they own them. If Nimer made wrong deal that’s his problem.
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,504
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
    Disagree. ESI 1 can argue that delay diminishes the asset because of the imminent start of the season and potentially removes the chance of a sale. Therefore an interim injunction should not be awarded.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,853
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Really hope that Sandgaard knew was LK's strategy was for him to be optimistic
    I’d like to think TS’s legal team have briefed LK on everything they may have found. 

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  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,590
    Is anyone else going to talk 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,336
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    Those months could a cost us promotion and b cost us our buyer which in turn could cost us our club!
    ..and our manager and quite a few players who will leave or not sign.

    But. We have not had our say yet.☺️
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    edited September 2020
    Chaisty saying that it isn't his client's problem if a more preferential buyer has come along for Nimer. Says if a deal is already agreed then it is "tough".

    Chaisty says Mihail argues that club could be expelled if Elliott owns club but remains disqualified however offers no evidence that is likely outcome.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    When is LK going to get a say?
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,001
    It wont surprise @PragueAddick that the english lawyer is pissing all over the romanian one
  • JoshrewCAFC
    JoshrewCAFC Posts: 919
    edited September 2020
    . 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,507
    Approaching half time I think.
    I'd say about 3-0 down.
    Need a mendonca like performance from our girl.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,815
    Does Nimer even care what the outcome is today? I doubt it
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,782
    edited September 2020
    Surely the shares are simply a share of the sale. If both sides agree that TS can buy the club on the terms he has agreed, cant they then argue who should have what for as long as they like? If Sandgaard is lost, they both lose his money.

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  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,336
    IdleHans said:
    It wont surprise @PragueAddick that the english lawyer is pissing all over the romanian one
    Who is not here to answer anything.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,028
    Chaisty says there is no evidence from the EFL that they will not allow Charlton to compete in League One or that there could be a points penalty.
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,850
    Bedsaddick said:
    Does Nimer even care what the outcome is today? I doubt it
    Yes, as it might be the difference between a £1 and whatever TS will pay for his shares...
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,088
    roseandcrown said:
    Is anyone else going to talk 
    Well hopefully our lawyer...
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,507
    Addickted said:
    Chaisty is actually starting to struggle now. Butting in on the Judge, putting forward suppositions and hypothetical scenarios and continue into waffling on, trying to put specific questions for the Judge to ask.

    It's a machine gun attack, but using the same bullets time and time again.
     This. I'd does feel like we've rounded this circle a few times
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,313
    IdleHans said:
    It wont surprise @PragueAddick that the english lawyer is pissing all over the romanian one
    This isn't actually the case is it? Chaisty is picking holes in Mihail's statement as you d expect him to do. Is that notnthe case here?
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Jints said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
    Disagree. ESI 1 can argue that delay diminishes the asset because of the imminent start of the season and potentially removes the chance of a sale. Therefore an interim injunction should not be awarded.
    LK can also argue that as it is Elliot wanting the injunction, he does not have the financial means to cover the other sides costs should the injunction be granted TS walk away and then Elliot lose the case at the full hearing.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    carly burn said:
    Approaching half time I think.
    I'd say about 3-0 down.
    Need a mendonca like performance from our girl.
    Let’s hope bowyer gets the substitutions right this time. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Jints said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    mattinfinland said:
    Can LK use the football club, fans ... the season on a whole as part of a defence?

    EG its not just between Elliot and Nimer, the whole club is at stake?
    It's legally nothing to do with football ffs. 
    Disagree. ESI 1 can argue that delay diminishes the asset because of the imminent start of the season and potentially removes the chance of a sale. Therefore an interim injunction should not be awarded.
    But that could be settle with damages at a later point.  

    My point was it doesn't matter legally, if its a football club, a house or a sweet shop.  It's either been sold, has a contract of exclusiveity or it hasn't. 
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