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Northampton v Charlton | Post-match thread | 24th October 2020
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Symth needs to do better really. Peoples definition of lively will differ, but to me that means lightweight with little end product.stackitsteve said:
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So you think JFC, Doughty, and Bogle were clueless and that we didn’t create any chances.jacob_CAFC said:
I'm agreeing with grumpy, and yep of course three points is the same regardless of performance, but getting the rub of the green isn't a good performance at all.Redrobo said:
Are you agreeing with me or grumpy?jacob_CAFC said:
We had two shots on target the whole gameRedrobo said:
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but one would hope that supporters would have a better understanding of the game.grumpyaddick said:That was utter dross.
Our defence is very sound but the rest pretty much clueless despite the effort.
Smyth looks like Simon Church but with a weaker shot and Bogle like a slower version of Magennis if if that's possible. If either of them score more than five goals this season it will be a miracle.
Pretty much no midfield until Pratley appeared.
No chances created and two goals.
Don't be deceived by the score. That was bang average league 1 rubbish but we won.Chucking out a random stat doesn’t really add to a discussion, but do feel free to quote as many as you wish. I would also add that this is a points driven business.
And you didn't refute anything grumpy said. Just an attack on how they viewed the game. Doesn't really add to a discussion
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Doughty's red cross led to a goal as it was an unsuccessful pass to a teammate, but a successful path towards a goal.....stats hey :-)9
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I don't believe stats tell the whole story however it's interesting Levitt has the second highest pass success rate in the team.
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That's a very big amoeba in the last picture.stackitsteve said:0 -
That's why for Levitt to work, it might have to be alongside a more robust midfielderChunes said:I don't believe stats tell the whole story however it's interesting Levitt has the second highest pass success rate in the team.
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Out of three corners, JFC got two onto Inniss's head which resulted in one goal and one should-have-been-a-goal-how-did-he-miss-that-it-was-easier-to-score-where's-Harry-Redknapp's-grandmother-when-you-need-her.
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Seem to remember people decrying Levitt, but note thatstackitsteve said:
he had a pass accuracy of 71.4%
Smyth on the other hand only 27.3%
I know Levitt is midfield and Smyth forward, but seems quite
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Yes, if the defender missed it, none of our players were in line for it either. And to be fair, Doughty had a bit of time to make the pass after his great run.Chunes said:
Was just watching the replay and it's a terrible ball from Doughty straight to their defender. Bogle is free at the back post for a tap-in. Two others running in the box open and he hit it straight to their man. Fortunate he couldn't sort his feet out and puts it in his own net. Always tough when you're running toward your own goalmendonca said:Excellent distribution from Amos to Doughty for the 2nd.
It's been a while since we've seen a Charlton goalie send a flat and accurate ball out to set a counter attack. Amos and Doughty made that (own) goal from nothing.2 -
To be fair to Smyth, there was probably a big difference in difficulty of passes attempted!eastterrace6168 said:
Seem to remember people decrying Levitt, but note thatstackitsteve said:
he had a pass accuracy of 71.4%
Smyth on the other hand only 27.3%
I know Levitt is midfield and Smyth forward, but seems quite
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Fair point, i was only following the match thread, and assume you watchedLeuth said:
To be fair to Smyth, there was probably a big difference in difficulty of passes attempted!eastterrace6168 said:
Seem to remember people decrying Levitt, but note thatstackitsteve said:
he had a pass accuracy of 71.4%
Smyth on the other hand only 27.3%
I know Levitt is midfield and Smyth forward, but seems quite
a difference in quality
via a stream, so really does prove if your assessment is correct that
statistics are only of very limited value, and don't give a fair vision, but
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Yes, that's the whole point.Chunes said:
Was just watching the replay and it's a terrible ball from Doughty straight to their defender. Bogle is free at the back post for a tap-in. Two others running in the box open and he hit it straight to their man. Fortunate he couldn't sort his feet out and puts it in his own net. Always tough when you're running toward your own goalmendonca said:Excellent distribution from Amos to Doughty for the 2nd.
It's been a while since we've seen a Charlton goalie send a flat and accurate ball out to set a counter attack. Amos and Doughty made that (own) goal from nothing.
It's very difficult to defend ....... defenders are running the wrong way facing their own yawning goalmouth.
And your attackers are facing the right way moving towards goal.
If the defender gets to the ball first, where can he put it? And if he can't get to the ball first under pressure, it should be an open goal facing your attackers.
I wouldn't say it was a terrible ball from Doughty - his instruction was no doubt get to the bye-line and lay the ball back on the floor towards the penalty spot, avoiding the keeper who otherwise would cut it out. If anything, at that point Bogle had over-run and was too far forward at the far post.
It's a very old fashioned tactic popular during the days of a winger on each wing - and very effective in it's simplicity.
And a nightmare to defend.
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I'm trying to work out why Alfie Spanner isn't getting enough praise for his performance against Blackpool and the Cobblers ?
Millwall Doughty, on his wrong side left the defence for dead in both matches with his pace and then picked out agent Sowerby to pick his spot against Northampton and his head back against Blackpool.
Alfie can rest up in his den for a week and hopefully can come back with his head out of Bandages and can carry on his lion like charges down the wing ( hopefully just Cramp)
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Commentator says, "Fortuitous touch from Bogle to set up Pratley .....".ross1 said:
So I run the rewind over Bogle's contribution to see what had happened:
From the corner kick, towering header from Inniss;
Bogle being held back by defender in the 6 yard box gets a touch with his foot and then uses his chest to kill the ball, intending to swivel and shoot I reckon ....... but watching Bogle's body language, clearly there is a call from Pratley to leave it, who then rifles home.
Nothing particularly fortuitous from Bogle, who I thought played a pivotal part in providing the touch and space for Pratley to finish.
Assist Bogle.
PS: The defender holding back Bogle suddenly crashes to the floor - what did Bogle do there?
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I said as much on the match thread. Doughty’s pace is devastating when has space to go into like that. His weight of touch and ball control when running at pace are also good. It was a inexcusably poor cross though and I was already opening my mouth to swear at him when it ricocheted off the defenders legs and in. They all count, but he got lucky on this occasion and it was an example of what happens too often with him when he gets to playing the final pass.Chunes said:
Was just watching the replay and it's a terrible ball from Doughty straight to their defender. Bogle is free at the back post for a tap-in. Two others running in the box open and he hit it straight to their man. Fortunate he couldn't sort his feet out and puts it in his own net. Always tough when you're running toward your own goalmendonca said:Excellent distribution from Amos to Doughty for the 2nd.
It's been a while since we've seen a Charlton goalie send a flat and accurate ball out to set a counter attack. Amos and Doughty made that (own) goal from nothing.Not getting on his back, he’s a young lad and shouldn’t be expected to be the finished article yet, but he does need to improve his quality of end product. It going to define how far he goes in the game. With it, and he’ll play in the Premier League at some point. Without it he’s just fast lower Championship/upper League 1 player.3 -
I was surprised how old he was/looked.Oggy Red said:I thought the referee had a very decent game today.
And to think it was his first ever game at this level. Seems to have a promising future, maybe as a top ref?
Anyway, good luck to him.
I should imagine he'll be retired within 10 years.0 -
Yes, I'm right, he's 39 & they have to retire at 47 (if I'm not mistaken).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53784107
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Hearing that Sam Allison is 39 and works for the fire service I'm surprised that he is 39 as I thought he would've risen up the ladder quicker.7
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"A former semi-professional player, Allison combines working for the fire service with his refereeing career, which he started in 2011."
There's the clue. He didn't even pick up a whistle until 9 years ago.
As an ex-player himself, he admits he wasn't the quietest player on the pitch towards the match officials!
Good to have a referee who was an experienced player at a decent competitive level.
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Mike Dean is 52Covered End said:Yes, I'm right, he's 39 & they have to retire at 47 (if I'm not mistaken).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/537841070 -
2 assists in 7 for Doughty, keeps that up and he’ll be finishing with 12-14 assists for the season, which would be a superb tally.3
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I'm assuming 1st half & 2nd half, seeing as Amos's are all down one end.Davo55 said:
Can someone please explain what the different colour arrows signify on these charts? What's yellow and what's red?stackitsteve said:1 -
As someone posted earlier said, yellow are successful passes.
Heat maps, passing maps etc are always attacking in one direction for the 90 minutes. Not swapping at ht, hence Amos all one way, Gunter all down 1 side etc.2 -
Three excellent points in very bad conditions
including a crap pitch.
it was not going to be a pretty affair but we dug in and deserved the win.
i never realised what a bad sportsman Northampton’s manager is, considering how the referee never gave us anything and gave them considerably more free kicks than they deserved.
another good result got to do it again Tuesday 👍👍👍0
