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**Peterborough V Charlton 29th Dec - Postponed**

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  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    killerandflash said:
    sam3110 said:
    So win tomorrow and hope a couple of others draw and we could be up by PPG if they call off the season at the end of 2020
    They're not going to promote or relegate clubs when less than half the season has been played
    As I said on a previous thread this is something that needed to be decided upon at the start of the season.

    Anyway, the bombshell has yet to fall in many people's minds. We've f***** up for years on long term solutions to our environmental problems. This virus will be the first of many. Get used to your whole lives being like this and live miserably in permanence, or live your lives freely again until you die.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    jimmymelrose said:
    killerandflash said:
    sam3110 said:
    So win tomorrow and hope a couple of others draw and we could be up by PPG if they call off the season at the end of 2020
    They're not going to promote or relegate clubs when less than half the season has been played
    As I said on a previous thread this is something that needed to be decided upon at the start of the season.

    Anyway, the bombshell has yet to fall in many people's minds. We've f***** up for years on long term solutions to our environmental problems. This virus will be the first of many. Get used to your whole lives being like this and live miserably in permanence, or live your lives freely again until you die.
    Happy Christmas.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Has it been explained why this has been called off 11 days after their positive test yet?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    moutuakilla said:
    Has it been explained why this has been called off 11 days after their positive test yet?
    I suppose its because Peterborough cant return to training until the 10-days are up

    They'll go into our game with no match fitness / training etc. so it is a bit unfair to expect them to play the very next day
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Said it in the PPG thread but now Wimbledon v Ipswich is off bring forward the AFC Wimbledon away game before more cancellations happen and more fixtures pile up.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    ForeverAddickted said:
    moutuakilla said:
    Has it been explained why this has been called off 11 days after their positive test yet?
    I suppose its because Peterborough cant return to training until the 10-days are up

    They'll go into our game with no match fitness / training etc. so it is a bit unfair to expect them to play the very next day
    Can’t believe that they some are not training, and what is reasonable, two days, a week? Whatever, rules need to be made.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    edited December 2020
    Redrobo said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    moutuakilla said:
    Has it been explained why this has been called off 11 days after their positive test yet?
    I suppose its because Peterborough cant return to training until the 10-days are up

    They'll go into our game with no match fitness / training etc. so it is a bit unfair to expect them to play the very next day
    Can’t believe that they some are not training, and what is reasonable, two days, a week? Whatever, rules need to be made.
    Oh they'll no doubt be keeping their individual fitness levels up but they will need to sort tactics / shape etc. wont they to face us - We'd no doubt be moaning at not getting that opportunity ourselves
  • MStuartPerm
    MStuartPerm Posts: 611
    MartinCAFC said:
    Said it in the PPG thread but now Wimbledon v Ipswich is off bring forward the AFC Wimbledon away game before more cancellations happen and more fixtures pile up.
    That’s using too much common sense.
    It’s a great point they should consider doing this throughout the leagues to ease later congestion. 
    With no fans there is no issue changing a fixture at short notice ( week) surely? 
    Plus I will have another Charlton game to watch over the holiday period 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    ForeverAddickted said:
    moutuakilla said:
    Has it been explained why this has been called off 11 days after their positive test yet?
    I suppose its because Peterborough cant return to training until the 10-days are up

    They'll go into our game with no match fitness / training etc. so it is a bit unfair to expect them to play the very next day
    That makes no difference. You self isolate for 10 days. No more, no less. Players are then available to train or play on the 11th day. It just so happens that on the 11th day they have a football match. 

    There really is nothing else to discuss. 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    edited December 2020
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    fmaddick said:
    At my count, we lost 2 (or 3?) games on most teams due to internationals prior to Xmas, and may lose a couple more later in the season.

    We gained back FA Cup Second round day. 

    We’ve lost Bristol Rovers and Peterborough. 

    If we were to be in a similar situation to those clubs and miss 2/3 games due to Covid, we’d be in a hell of a rush to get games finished I’d think
    We'll lose Crewe in March as well when the next round of internationals are played, so that's already 3 games we need to reschedule.
    That'll be good, a shocking place.
    Strange that such a shocking place should be the home of Bentley Motors.
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  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,150
    Can someone tell me if my understanding of the situation is correct. Players that we have been unable to select due to covid have not actually tested positive for it, but have been in contact with someone who has? Peterborough have had a player test positive, so all the squad have to isolate. Regarding the ten days, I am with Golfie generally, so the EFL have  now to make it clear exacty how many days after this period that teams are expected to play.  
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    But thems the rules......unless or until the EFL changes them. And that is the problem, the EFL have done diddly squat about it. If they had come out and said teams need to isolate for the mandatory 10 days then can have 3 days before a game then that would be all fine & dandy. But they haven't. Typical EFL hiding away & not being proactive about it all. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    golfaddick said:
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    But thems the rules......unless or until the EFL changes them. And that is the problem, the EFL have done diddly squat about it. If they had come out and said teams need to isolate for the mandatory 10 days then can have 3 days before a game then that would be all fine & dandy. But they haven't. Typical EFL hiding away & not being proactive about it all. 
    So you'd have no issue if the boot was on the other foot and we were forced to play Peterborough a day after isolation?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    ForeverAddickted said:
    golfaddick said:
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    But thems the rules......unless or until the EFL changes them. And that is the problem, the EFL have done diddly squat about it. If they had come out and said teams need to isolate for the mandatory 10 days then can have 3 days before a game then that would be all fine & dandy. But they haven't. Typical EFL hiding away & not being proactive about it all. 
    So you'd have no issue if the boot was on the other foot and we were forced to play Peterborough a day after isolation?
    No. Because that's the rule. A player has to self isolate for 10 days. 

    We've played games over the past month where players have not been available because of Covid (Levitt, Oshilaja & Morgan). Perhaps we should have postponed all those matches too. Matches in which we were weaker because of it......and possibly could have won them if we had had a proper centre half instead of playing Gunter there. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    ForeverAddickted said:
    golfaddick said:
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    But thems the rules......unless or until the EFL changes them. And that is the problem, the EFL have done diddly squat about it. If they had come out and said teams need to isolate for the mandatory 10 days then can have 3 days before a game then that would be all fine & dandy. But they haven't. Typical EFL hiding away & not being proactive about it all. 
    So you'd have no issue if the boot was on the other foot and we were forced to play Peterborough a day after isolation?
    All we are saying is that there need to be rules. It is not right that clubs are left to make their own decisions, and are then investigated. 
    Would it be right for Peterborough to be investigated and be told actually we think you should have played and deduct them points? Was it right that Sunderland played with eight players missing?
    At the moment the only rule is 10 days and that applies to everyone in the Country. If the EFL have a different view they need to let everyone know what that is, because that would be fair to all.
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,977
    edited December 2020
    jimmymelrose said:
    killerandflash said:
    sam3110 said:
    So win tomorrow and hope a couple of others draw and we could be up by PPG if they call off the season at the end of 2020
    They're not going to promote or relegate clubs when less than half the season has been played
    Anyway, the bombshell has yet to fall in many people's minds. We've f***** up for years on long term solutions to our environmental problems. This virus will be the first of many. Get used to your whole lives being like this and live miserably in permanence, or live your lives freely again until you die.
    Weapons grade bah humbug right there.....
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,689
    Algarveaddick said:
    Can someone tell me if my understanding of the situation is correct. Players that we have been unable to select due to covid have not actually tested positive for it, but have been in contact with someone who has? Peterborough have had a player test positive, so all the squad have to isolate. Regarding the ten days, I am with Golfie generally, so the EFL have  now to make it clear exacty how many days after this period that teams are expected to play.  
    To be honest, from the people I know who have got it in the last week or two, you start having to isolate for 10 days, but if you or anyone you've been in contact with then tests positive, that isolation gets extended. So, someone I know was due to come out of isolation on the 24th but her other half tested positive and now it's the 26th. 
    So far, it's not hit us hard, but it may do and if/when it does we'll need to postpone games. I'd agree there needs to be more consistency from the EFL (when doesn't there?) but in this case I can understand why Posh have postponed. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Anyway it's nice to see the efl take leadership. 
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,150
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    @clb74 Top of page 3 I asked you about the question you raised which appeared to refer to a hypothetical situation two months down the line. You didn't respond, so I don't know if I misunderstood. 

    Again here you appear to be referring to a hypothetical situation "...if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.".  

    Now, I am reading this (and again, I may misunderstand) as you saying we would be upset if two of our players were seriously ill with covid, and the rest of the now fit and clear to play squad, were required to play on the 11th day? If your problem is with playing when someone in the squad is seriously ill, then 10, 20 or 30 days makes absolutley no difference to that scenario, does it? They are ill no matter when the next game is played. Are you saying if that happens, all a club's games should be postponed until the player is better?  

    On the other hand, if no one gets seriously ill (and as you say, that is the most likely outcome as "...none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus."), then a game has been postponed for no reason. I have no problem with the rule being 12, 14 or 24 days - whatever - but once it is set, it needs to be adhered to.          
      
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55413489

    The Ipswich physio suggesting a circuit breaker may be needed. 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    Teams in our league are starting to go down like ninepins and there'll doubtless be many other postponements in the near future. As others have said, some leadership and guidance from the EFL wouldn't go amiss.

    A real shame about the Peterborough postponement, as it would have been good to have a game to watch between Christmas and New Year. I have mixed feelings about Peterborough - I've had a couple of excellent away trips there but I now have a major grudge against Darragh MacAnthony for colluding with his odious friend, Matt Southall, in trying to pull the wool over our eyes about signing Maddison for a fee last January when he probably knew that we were under a transfer embargo. It was a ruse designed to try and buy Southall a little more time and, from MacAnthony's point of view, to try and stimulate a bit of interest in Maddison.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Algarveaddick said:
    clb74 said:
    Lot of heartless b#stards on here.
    Ok I go with that though make Peterborough play on the 11th day.
    I wonder what the attitude would be though if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.
    We then got the other team saying come on you've had your 10 days.
    Luckily enough it seems none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus.
    @clb74 Top of page 3 I asked you about the question you raised which appeared to refer to a hypothetical situation two months down the line. You didn't respond, so I don't know if I misunderstood. 

    Again here you appear to be referring to a hypothetical situation "...if a couple of our players got coronavirus and they topped up in a bad way.".  

    Now, I am reading this (and again, I may misunderstand) as you saying we would be upset if two of our players were seriously ill with covid, and the rest of the now fit and clear to play squad, were required to play on the 11th day? If your problem is with playing when someone in the squad is seriously ill, then 10, 20 or 30 days makes absolutley no difference to that scenario, does it? They are ill no matter when the next game is played. Are you saying if that happens, all a club's games should be postponed until the player is better?  

    On the other hand, if no one gets seriously ill (and as you say, that is the most likely outcome as "...none of the players in any of the leagues have suffered badly from coronavirus."), then a game has been postponed for no reason. I have no problem with the rule being 12, 14 or 24 days - whatever - but once it is set, it needs to be adhered to.          
      
    Morning Algarve.
    I'm not really bothered how we do it.
    In my post above yours I did put nice to see the efl take leadership.
    You talk about the 10,20 30 day scenario , worst case scenario a player tops up dying on day 18 might even be our player are we saying play the game Saturday because that's the rules.

  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    I dont know what other clubs have done.
    But just looked at Portsmouth and theyve got some players across the country and one even in county Donegal.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    clb74 said:
    I dont know what other clubs have done.
    But just looked at Portsmouth and theyve got some players across the country and one even in county Donegal.
    I wonder if the Donegal player trains every day, it's a long commute.
  • Clarky
    Clarky Posts: 582
    I can certainly see why Peterborough have called off their game with us but the rules are 10 days in isolation and then carry on as normal. For me outside the 10 day period I don't think it is for the club to be making the decision.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Rotherham game off
    Pompey more positives
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,451

    Portsmouth's next two matches, against Swindon on 26 December and Bristol Rovers on 29 December, are off after positive coronavirus tests at the club.

    Five members of the playing squad and backroom team have tested positive.

    League One Pompey are the sixth English Football League side to postpone upcoming fixtures because of Covid-19.

    League rivals Ipswich,Sunderland and Peterborough have called off festive games, along with Rotherham and Millwall in the Championship.

    The five who have tested positive at Portsmouth are now self-isolating, along with those they have been in close contact with.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55425397

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    Top 6 could be interesting after the New Year fixtures. With Pompey & Peterborough not playing over xmas & us at Hull on Jan 2nd there could be 4 or 5 teams all within a point of each other.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    Two Blackpool players (Chris Maxwell and Matty Virtue) have returned positive COVID tests now

    Their game hasnt been called off against Rochdale as yet, Blackpool have brought in Sam Walker (Goalkeeper) on emergency loan from Reading so doesnt look like they're preparing to get it called off either

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