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Ronnie Schwartz (Page 73 - contract cancelled)
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Ah yep, forgot all about that one! Proves my point though, great conversion rate when he's given the right service.Chunes said:
He also scored one that was incorrectly ruled offside.Croydon said:Thinking of clear cut chances Schwartz has had since he's joined, and I make it:
1 scored
1 hit the post
1 completely fluffed
1in 3 conversion rate isn't bad at this level, and would no doubt improve with some game time. But I genuinely can't think of any other times we've created something for him. That being said, he is a passenger with our current style of play, and that's not really a luxury we can afford to have atm.2 -
Completely agree with you Daz, and wasn't trying to shift any blame onto Schwartz at all. He's ineffectual, but that's due to our set up, not his lack of ability.Dazzler21 said:
I don't think we can blame Schwartz for this though, he comes on makes the right moves but is almost never picked out. You can see his frustration grow as games go on. It is the managers decision to bring him on and therefore he must believe that his side are going to change their style to accommodate for the striker change... They don't. Which is either a tactical error to not get them to do so or an issue multiple individuals make.Croydon said:Thinking of clear cut chances Schwartz has had since he's joined, and I make it:
1 scored
1 hit the post
1 completely fluffed
1in 3 conversion rate isn't bad at this level, and would no doubt improve with some game time. But I genuinely can't think of any other times we've created something for him. That being said, he is a passenger with our current style of play, and that's not really a luxury we can afford to have atm.1 -
Oh no I got that, I was in agreement with your points.Croydon said:
Completely agree with you Daz, and wasn't trying to shift any blame onto Schwartz at all. He's ineffectual, but that's due to our set up, not his lack of ability.Dazzler21 said:
I don't think we can blame Schwartz for this though, he comes on makes the right moves but is almost never picked out. You can see his frustration grow as games go on. It is the managers decision to bring him on and therefore he must believe that his side are going to change their style to accommodate for the striker change... They don't. Which is either a tactical error to not get them to do so or an issue multiple individuals make.Croydon said:Thinking of clear cut chances Schwartz has had since he's joined, and I make it:
1 scored
1 hit the post
1 completely fluffed
1in 3 conversion rate isn't bad at this level, and would no doubt improve with some game time. But I genuinely can't think of any other times we've created something for him. That being said, he is a passenger with our current style of play, and that's not really a luxury we can afford to have atm.1 -
He wouldn't be here if Thomas wasn't, it's that plain and simple. I've seen Gallen say they had an eye on him etc but I'm calling b*****s. Bowyer has never operated with a poacher striker, he has always opted for a striker with pace on the break. For Ronnie to work you would need to have a whole new system. I don't even see where he fits in. Chuks should be undroppable based on his goals and influence in games, Jayden is our best player. Now you can't play 3 up top because none of them can play wide, you can't play a 2 and a 1 behind because even though I like the sound of it Chuks just doesn't have the energy or vision to be a 10 imo. So one of them has to miss out.
Every game I have seen of him he has been non existent other than his debut where he linked with Chuks well and scored against an open Wimbledon side. Against these tighter teams he completely goes missing and doesn't bring himself into the game. He doesn't come back for the ball, he doesn't attempt 1-2s etc, just makes runs. Simon Church made runs.
I am failing to see how someone like Bogle who actually had decent showings for us got absolute pelters but a player who genuinely goes missing gets nothing.
We were desperate for a centre back, probably a couple, instead we 'didn't have the money' and brought in a striker that wasn't ready to play and doesn't suit any formation we have played under Lee?
We don't have the creative players to put it on a plate for him (please don't say 1 assist in 100 games Williams or Maddison who looked poor other than a nothing cup game) and we don't play possession based football where he would get time to find a pattern and a run, so where does he fit in?
Sorry but it's been a complete dud for the circumstances and I don't believe for one second Lee or Gallen truly wanted him. Keep the boss happy signing
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He scored against Rochdale securing the point. Not Wimbledon.Braziliance said:He wouldn't be here if Thomas wasn't, it's that plain and simple. I've seen Gallen say they had an eye on him etc but I'm calling b*****s. Bowyer has never operated with a poacher striker, he has always opted for a striker with pace on the break. For Ronnie to work you would need to have a whole new system. I don't even see where he fits in. Chuks should be undroppable based on his goals and influence in games, Jayden is our best player. Now you can't play 3 up top because none of them can play wide, you can't play a 2 and a 1 behind because even though I like the sound of it Chuks just doesn't have the energy or vision to be a 10 imo. So one of them has to miss out.
Every game I have seen of him he has been non existent other than his debut where he linked with Chuks well and scored against an open Wimbledon side. Against these tighter teams he completely goes missing and doesn't bring himself into the game. He doesn't come back for the ball, he doesn't attempt 1-2s etc, just makes runs. Simon Church made runs.
I am failing to see how someone like Bogle who actually had decent showings for us got absolute pelters but a player who genuinely goes missing gets nothing.
We were desperate for a centre back, probably a couple, instead we 'didn't have the money' and brought in a striker that wasn't ready to play and doesn't suit any formation we have played under Lee?
We don't have the creative players to put it on a plate for him, and we don't play possession based football where he would get time to find a pattern and a run, so where does he fit in?
Sorry but it's been a complete dud for the circumstances and I don't believe for one second Lee or Gallen truly wanted him. Keep the boss happy signing0 -
Ah right, both crap teams both high scoring games, easy mistake. Still doesn't change anything I've said0
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If he'd scored against Wimbledon his goal wouldn't have changed the result, scoring against Rochdale earned us the point. Never know we might scrape the playoffs by a pointBraziliance said:Ah right, both crap teams both high scoring games, easy mistake. Still doesn't change anything I've said
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You lot would have hated Darren Bent.4
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Ronnie Schwartz isn't fit to lace Darren Bents boots. Not even comparable, absolute different levels of player..SELR_addicks said:You lot would have hated Darren Bent.5 -
Bent had a lot of pace to burn and was good in the air
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hes a poacher goalscorer, needs service11
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So is Gallon the master recruiter or not, or is bowyer not managing / coaching these player properly?. Surely must be one or the other?redbuttle said:
Looks like DJ is going to be another one..Covered End said:He's literally been a no show apart from his debut.
I can never recall a player in my life who is invisible every game.
It's quite an achievement.0 -
DJ started one game in a weird formation with Deji overlapping. He must be thinking wtf.CheshireAddick said:
So is Gallon the master recruiter or not, or is bowyer not managing / coaching these player properly?. Surely must be one or the other?redbuttle said:
Looks like DJ is going to be another one..Covered End said:He's literally been a no show apart from his debut.
I can never recall a player in my life who is invisible every game.
It's quite an achievement.1 -
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Personally I count Ronnie's goal that was incorrectly ruled offside. So despite only picking up minutes here and there, he's already scored the same amount as Bogle did, who played game after game after game.
I'm not quite sure what's prompting huge essays on him being a dud, but I would warily suggest it's the general frustration hose turned on full power, that has so far sprayed in just about everyone's direction.
We've seen in glimpses he's a supremely good finisher and has the vision and weight on his pass of a player above this level. He certainly offers more in that regard than Bonne did, who could not pass or link to save his life, and could barely finish from three yards. And he was the Bonne replacement.
Nobody is performing to their full potential in this team save 1 or 2 players.19 -
I will also count ones that hit the woodwork and ones where the goalie made a worldie.Might just go full hog and use the XG stats and be done with it.0
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the people i know don't rate him...CheshireAddick said:
So is Gallon the master recruiter or not, or is bowyer not managing / coaching these player properly?. Surely must be one or the other?redbuttle said:
Looks like DJ is going to be another one..Covered End said:He's literally been a no show apart from his debut.
I can never recall a player in my life who is invisible every game.
It's quite an achievement.0 -
Take it you mean Gallen and not Bowyer? Any word on any disharmony in the dressing room? It does look like the players don’t like BowyerRedhenry said:
the people i know don't rate him...CheshireAddick said:
So is Gallon the master recruiter or not, or is bowyer not managing / coaching these player properly?. Surely must be one or the other?redbuttle said:
Looks like DJ is going to be another one..Covered End said:He's literally been a no show apart from his debut.
I can never recall a player in my life who is invisible every game.
It's quite an achievement.0 -
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my contacts don't have any players at Charlton atm3
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This all sounds very Gansgter'esque. The short sentences add to thrill and suspense too, as if somebody behind the keyboard and monitor might listen to what is being types ;-)0
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see so many similarities with when jiminez took over the club, immediately signed a goalscorer/poacher who was then called lazy, a dud by some. Poor results with players realising no matter what they do they'll be out the door by summer replaced by far superior players.
Then a big summer transfer window later and we pissed the league and gave a great account of ourselves the next season after in the championship narrowly missing out on the playoffs.4 -
Bradders was so strange to watch. Worth noting he was a complete flop back in the Championship.kentaddick said:see so many similarities with when jiminez took over the club, immediately signed a goalscorer/poacher who was then called lazy, a dud by some. Poor results with players realising no matter what they do they'll be out the door by summer replaced by far superior players.
Then a big summer transfer window later and we pissed the league and gave a great account of ourselves the next season after in the championship narrowly missing out on the playoffs.
He was bloody good in both his first half a season with us and after the rebuild. We changed the way we played to have him as the pinnacle of our attack, almost immediately.
In league 1 he scored 30 in 63 appearances. Unreal.0 -
Must be very difficult for him and these are not normal times. Plus he’s coming into a team not winning games. His finishing is obviously top drawer but it’s clear he was a TS signing that Gallen was happy to support. I still think he will become a decent squad player for us.9
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maybe after the shift Washington put in on Tuesday he will be rested this weekend and then Ronnie can get a start. I have felt for him a bit so far as I think he needs a run of games6
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I feel the same. I keep thinking of Ronnie stuck in his London hotel away from his family, not getting a chance to show what he can do and without a run in the team to motivate him. It wouldn't take a genius to see that this isn't working out for him and, as it stands, probably isn't going to now. Shame, because a 'fox in the box' looks like the perfect partner for Stockley and Aneke. I can see Ronnie leaving us at the end of the season, irrespective of whatever league we might be in.AndyG said:maybe after the shift Washington put in on Tuesday he will be rested this weekend and then Ronnie can get a start. I have felt for him a bit so far as I think he needs a run of games
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Overreaction!meldrew66 said:
I feel the same. I keep thinking of Ronnie stuck in his London hotel away from his family, not getting a chance to show what he can do and without a run in the team to motivate him. It wouldn't take a genius to see that this isn't working out for him and, as it stands, probably isn't going to now. Shame, because a 'fox in the box' looks like the perfect partner for Stockley and Aneke. I can see Ronnie leaving us at the end of the season, irrespective of whatever league we might be in.AndyG said:maybe after the shift Washington put in on Tuesday he will be rested this weekend and then Ronnie can get a start. I have felt for him a bit so far as I think he needs a run of games3
