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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Paul Heckingbottom until the end of the season. 
    The man with the most Yorkshire surname ever  :D
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    Pretty rare case in that a vast majority of Blades seem to want him to stay, normally the fans turn then the board act!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Lincsaddick said:
    Wilder is the classic case of a man who is a perfect manager in the lower divisions (see Warnock e.g.), yet is just not suited to manage at the highest level, and YES, I know his team had a decent first season back at the top.  This season, so far, they and him have been very very poor. He hasn't had a lot of money to spend that is true but even so, from what little I have seen of the Blades this year, their football is woeful. I suspect that Wilder is a bit of an old fashioned sergeant major type of manager. Nowadays that management style will not work.
    Doesn't help that with what little you do have you piss £20m up the wall on Brewster ...
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,699
    They still spent £55m

    More than Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Brom and West Ham spent. A lot of those clubs had significant transfer income as well.

    Their net transfer spend was the same as Man Uniteds and more than Liverpools so it seems silly to say he hasn't had a lot of money to spend

  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did.
    The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen.
    It takes years to break into the top 6.

    I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri.
    Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Valiantphil said:
    It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did.
    The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen.
    It takes years to break into the top 6.

    I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri.
    Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
    They sacked Ranieri because they were in serious danger of getting relegated. I don't think there are any Leicester fans who don't see their title win as a one-off miracle. I would imagine most of them are delighted that they've become a consistent top 7 side since their title victory.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Leeds_Addick said:
    They still spent £55m

    More than Brighton, Burnley, Palace, Fulham, Leicester, Newcastle, Southampton, West Brom and West Ham spent. A lot of those clubs had significant transfer income as well.

    Their net transfer spend was the same as Man Uniteds and more than Liverpools so it seems silly to say he hasn't had a lot of money to spend

    Starting from a much lower base than all of those clubs though so of course they had to strengthen. They were in league one less than 4 years ago.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Sometimes it doesn't pay to overachieve too much on promotion to the PL

    In 2000/01 we achieved a brilliant 9th, but were overshadowed by Ipswich who came 5th. The next season they struggled with being in Europe and got relegated, with Burley sacked a few months after relegation
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    By all accounts Sheff Utd's wages are basically as low as anyone (imagine Burnley are in a similar ball park to be fair which obviously is a great credit to Dyche).

    If Newcastle stay up, I'd bin Bruce and give it to Wilder in a heartbeat. 
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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    MrLargo said:
    Valiantphil said:
    It's a problem for a manager when you have an over-achieving season like SUFC did.
    The fans usually want to improve on it the following year - and it doesn't happen.
    It takes years to break into the top 6.

    I recall Leicester winning the Prem and the fans thinking they were going to do it every year, so sacked Ranieri.
    Unusually, in the case of SUFC, it seems the fans are onside, but it is the board who have the unrealistic expectation.
    They sacked Ranieri because they were in serious danger of getting relegated. I don't think there are any Leicester fans who don't see their title win as a one-off miracle. I would imagine most of them are delighted that they've become a consistent top 7 side since their title victory.
    So...... they won the Prem, then nearly got relegated, sacked the manager, and are now happy with 6 places lower.
    That's exactly my point.

    WHU will be next, Moyes gone by Xmas.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2021
    Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it. 
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    edited March 2021
    Chunes said:
    Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it. 
    Turned down Ollie Watkins for Oli McBurnie........ouch!
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    eaststandmike said:
    Chunes said:
    Skysports reporting that Wilder passed over signings like Ollie Watkins and Thomas Soucek because he wanted Ramsdale and Brewster. Refused to even entertain the idea of looking at other players. The club board would like him to focus on the coaching side and make less transfer decisions but seems he's not having it. 
    Turned down Ollie Watkins for Oli McBurnie........ouch!
    Think Ramsdale is the best keeper of those four mentioned and called that one right.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Glad he didnt choose us in the end. Play boring football & have no quality up front. I'm disappointed that they have exceeded the lowest Premier League points total set by Derby some years ago. 


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2021
    He's made some poor signings but Sheff Utd wouldn't even be in the Prem without Chris Wilder. He's a good manager and his take on the 3-5-2 with the overlapping CB is widely regarded. It's mad to let him go. 

    It may end up having the same effect on them as when Curbs departed us.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    It feels as though Sheff Utd are going through the same issues as us and Liverpool - they need the fans at Bramall Lane to push them on, reckon they'd recover next season with fans back and Wilder in charge albeit in the Championship. 

    Its too convenient that the home form of the three clubs has nose dived since Project Restart despite being so strong under the respective Managers
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,742
    ForeverAddickted said:
    It feels as though Sheff Utd are going through the same issues as us and Liverpool - they need the fans at Bramall Lane to push them on, reckon they'd recover next season with fans back and Wilder in charge albeit in the Championship. 

    Its too convenient that the home form of the three clubs has nose dived since Project Restart despite being so strong under the respective Managers
    Not so sure it is anything to do with fans all 3 clubs have suffered injury to key players.  
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,716
    hudson-son-son said:
    By all accounts Sheff Utd's wages are basically as low as anyone (imagine Burnley are in a similar ball park to be fair which obviously is a great credit to Dyche).

    If Newcastle stay up, I'd bin Bruce and give it to Wilder in a heartbeat. 
    Think Burnley should give most of the credit to us, well, pope. Whenever I watch motd without pope they would be bottom. Maybe they're defense all needs credit,i know They're hopeless up front. 

    So, now he's available again.... Anyone fancy him for us? 
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56387640

    Wilder's departure has been confirmed
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Jackett gone. Confirmed by Portsmouth 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,410
    stackitsteve said:
    Jackett gone. Confirmed by Portsmouth 
    Phil Collins on stand by.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Watch Portsmouth go on a good run now. Wish we had the balls to make a change.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Watch Portsmouth go on a good run now. Wish we had the balls to make a change.
    Bollocks (pun intended)

    Not sacking Bowyer does not mean that Sandgaard (which is who you mean by "we" as no one else makes that decision) has no "balls".

    Sometime sticking to your guns when others as screaming at you to change takes a lot more "balls" than going along with the loudest voices.

    Whether TS is right or wrong to stick with Bowyer is irrelevant to this point.  It's nothing to do with Sandgaard not having the balls to do it.
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,619
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Watch Portsmouth go on a good run now. 
    Or drop out off the race completely...
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    letthegoodtimesroll said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Watch Portsmouth go on a good run now. 
    Or drop out off the race completely...
    They're the same as Brentford, have absolutely zero faith in them being able to get promoted if they finish in the Play-Offs regardless of their Manager
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    edited March 2021


    Another club Bowyer played for but not exactly in a good situation now
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    A big weekend on the managerial front. Interesting timing from Pompey, as they've been poor for a while but the axe fell after losing in the final of the Papa John's trophy! 

    I was puzzled why Birmingham appointed Karanka anyway, who had a pretty average record at Boro.

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